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aaronburro
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To be fair, the girl did just find out that her dad had been shot to death... Maybe she was a little unhinged after that?

9/22/2016 12:49:20 AM

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^^^ what's the proper procedure if the police shoots your dad in your apartment? My first thought would be to find out what hospital they took him to, but it didn't look like anyone was being forthcoming with information, but that could be because the daughter was (understandably) hysterical.

Seems like they could have handled that whole thing a lot better too, doesn't make sense the family has to learn from the TV what happened to their family member.

Guns aren't illegal anyway, seems like it really depends on what the guy was doing with the gun whether the police were justified.

[Edited on September 22, 2016 at 1:12 AM. Reason : ]

9/22/2016 1:12:38 AM

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Understandably upset, hysterical, whatever. And some black families have always made fun of white people in the privacy of their own homes--it's fun, and it doesn't really hurt anybody.

But I've never seen it come out like that. And, if he was a daily reader of, say, intensely Afrocentric literature, she'd be a little more advanced than, "Y'all white mother fuckers fuck dogs and horses. And fuck the Asians and they mother fuckin' soups. And, hey, bitches, you're all ugly. Aren't they all ugly? Look at that ugly dog bitch over there."


Her first response to her father's death was to live feed a racist rant. She uses the word, "nigger," to refer to any male, and "bitch" to refer to any female.


Every bit of this is fucking humiliating and shameful for all of us.

9/22/2016 1:19:56 AM

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so bridgets take is that the victims family are the real racists? i've seen it all now.

9/22/2016 1:25:49 AM

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They're obscenely racist.

And they just contributed to protests that resulted in another person getting shot.

The daughter's language is suggestive of political and racial extremism, and I'm not surprised the victim had a run-in with the police.


If you don't wanna have problems with the police, maybe stick to "#FTP" in your head. And maybe don't start interactions by regarding them all as white, honkey pigs who rape their horse-fucking daughters and also fuck dogs in their spare time.

9/22/2016 1:56:16 AM

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"Her first response to her father's death was to live feed a racist rant. She uses the word, "nigger," to refer to any male, and "bitch" to refer to any female.
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I assumed she was differentiating between what the white cops do and what the black cops do, not male/female.

The girl is obviously ignorant and uneducated, and this plays into Trump's rhetoric to equally ignorant uneducated whites across the country. The imagery doesn't help solve any problems.

Charlotte has some of the most notoriously poor areas if NC though, and one of the highest wealth disparities of rich/poor, this is just a symptom of this problem. This was even national news earlier this year:
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/poor-children-rarely-escape-poverty-here/472002/

9/22/2016 2:41:05 AM

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James helped @BreeNewsome remove Confederate flag in SC


Supposedly the guy shot at the protests was shot by police

9/22/2016 3:33:09 AM

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^^I know. Bussing students from various racial/socioeconomic backgrounds together was the only way to move towards several forms of equality in North Carolina.

We've already skipped back to 1971 by eliminating bussing in favor of 2002's "School Choice Plan," but if the following happens...

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"The [2016] plan has drawn threats from several local towns to pull out of the school district, which currently encompasses the whole county, and the superintendent, already an interim placement, is scheduled to retire this year, which means the task force will need to work with new leadership."


...Charlotte will literally be headed back to 1960. But, whatever, then we'll just do vouchers for private schools where poor families will face options like they do in Baton Rouge:

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"Closest to Redemptorist are Catholic High and St. Joseph’s Academy, which also are the most selective. Neither accepts taxpayer-funded vouchers from students who formerly attended C, D and F-rated public schools."

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/education/article_01533611-af8f-5d13-95f6-18ef98cf8dc9.html

Access to education is not going to get better. It's going to get worse--the way it has been since the 90s. Nobody cares except me, you, maybe the author of that Atlantic article, and perhaps one or two people on the CMS school board. Regardless, I'm not sure the solution is for black people to join separatist groups and record themselves spewing racist, hateful garbage.

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"moron: I assumed she was differentiating between what the white cops do and what the black cops do, not male/female."


"Y'all know y'all white crackers fuck dogs. [Friend: No, they fuck horses.] And motherfucking horses--no, women fuck horses. The niggers be fucking the dogs."

[Edited on September 22, 2016 at 3:59 AM. Reason : Very slow.]

9/22/2016 3:58:31 AM

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fuck, was BridgetSPK drunk again?

9/22/2016 7:13:48 AM

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"Yeah, so, uhhh, I just watched the first few minutes of that video this guy's daughter made right after his death:

http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/lyric-youradorable-scott-charlotte-police-shooting-facebook-live-video-streaming-stream-watch-north-carolina-cops-father-killed-daughter/

How was it not obvious to everyone that this Scott guy definitely had a gun?"

i'm confused, why would his daughter's rant make it obvious he had a gun?

9/22/2016 8:04:11 AM

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^^^^ so it seems pretty simple, if the guy in the hospital has a gunshot wound he was shot by a civilian, if not it was police.

9/22/2016 8:20:16 AM

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I only saw pictures of dude laying on the ground with blood coming out of his head. I agree, the truth is in the details. If the victim has a rubber bullet in his head, it was probably the police that shot him.

9/22/2016 8:25:24 AM

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Witnesses confirmed that it was JCE2011 that shot the protester in the head

9/22/2016 8:48:56 AM

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I've lived in Charlotte for almost 20 years and I've never been more disappointed than I am this morning.

A lot of emotions came out last night. I consider myself left leaning and was planning to vote for Gary Johnson.

But last night showed me the cultural/race war is here and if elections were today I think I'd vote for Trump.

These savages destroyed our city and our leaders are pathetic. They didn't call the Gov. until 11:30pm to ask for the National Guard.

WHY IN THE FUCK DID YOU WAIT THAT LONG?!?!?

And what the fuck is up with not releasing the video?!??!

9/22/2016 9:04:00 AM

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I'm curious what you think Trump would do to prevent instances like this?

9/22/2016 9:07:32 AM

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"And what the fuck is up with not releasing the video?!??!"


Gee whiz, one would think amidst protests and violence, if the police had video absolving them of guilt, they would want to release it as quickly as possible.


As a matter of fact, if the cops were right or wrong, transparency is hands down the best option. Tulsa, OK had it right. They released the video, and said "hey, this looks fucked up. Lettuce investigate..."

9/22/2016 9:12:48 AM

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It's the message.

People are saying this is the new civil rights movement. Fuck that. You don't destroy shit for civil rights.

I know I'm being irrational now because I'm angry, but I want blood.

9/22/2016 9:14:02 AM

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I can't tell if Colangus is serious or not

9/22/2016 9:15:37 AM

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But last night showed me the cultural/race war is here and if elections were today I think I'd vote for Trump."


If there's gonna be a "race war" then what are the sides?

[Edited on September 22, 2016 at 9:27 AM. Reason : Also you aren't left leaning if you were going to got for Johnson]

9/22/2016 9:26:56 AM

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Rioting accomplishes nothing positive, I agree wholeheartedly there, but what about all the peaceful protesting across the nation that doesn't get national clickbait coverage? Where does your orange troll stand on all that? Oh yeah...stop and frisk.

9/22/2016 9:28:39 AM

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I want to believe the cops and their version of the story... but not releasing the videos REALLY hurts their case.

9/22/2016 9:33:43 AM

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https://www.facebook.com/KhadiDon/videos/877139109052514/
Feel really bad for black Americans

None of the local nc politicians are recognizing the legitimate issues that underlie the protests, media isn't taking about the protests only riots, people on Facebook conflating protests and riots as terrorism, I'd feel like a second class citizen in the country I was born in right now.

The rioting feeds into anti-black sentiments and the dismissal of the protests feed into #BLM sentiments.

9/22/2016 9:36:19 AM

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I haven't heard - has it been confirmed that there even IS video? Because the cop that did the shooting wasn't wearing a body cam.

9/22/2016 9:39:46 AM

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Some of the initial coverage I read I believe said that other officers on the scene had body cams equipped.

9/22/2016 9:43:36 AM

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If that was BLM last night, consider me a racist white devil.

Fuck them. They're savages and deserved to be shot.

9/22/2016 9:47:34 AM

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This is the problem that is creating a bigger divide in this country rather than improving it. I think most of us realize that in general things in this country aren't all that great for the black community. Between systemic and blatant racism I can only imagine how frustrating that can be. When these types of things happen I understand why the black community gets upset but the reactions of even just a few are causing more harm than good.

The first problem is everyone wants to immediately assume any shooting now was racially motivated and completely uncalled for. People really need to start sitting back for a bit at least to let an investigation take place and let the facts come out before getting all up in arms. I realize that can be hard at times because the police are not known to always be very forthcoming, but immediately jumping to conclusions isn't helping anyone.

The second problem is the violence, destruction of property, and looting. I realize there are plenty of peaceful protestors but they aren't what is being shown on the news. The media is partly to blame for this one as well, but the black community is going to have to continue to vehemently denounce any violence. For the majority of the rest of America what we end up seeing on tv are people throwing items at cops, setting things on fire, breaking windows, looting etc. I don't care who you are or how racist you try not to be when this is what you are seeing on tv every time this type of thing happens you are going to start to associate the black community with violence and crime. I am not saying this is right and again partly to blame on the media but it is what it is people are people and our views are swayed by what we see. This type of reaction has to stop regardless of how pissed and upset people get because it is not helping your cause but hurting it. Do you really think when that line of cops standing there sees this type of violence occuring that they aren't developing a bias towards the black community that will carry on with them going forward?

I don't claim to know the best solution to this problem, but I know that the type of things that are happening now are creating more problems than solutions so for starters that just has to stop. Colangus up there is a perfect example of what this type of reaction causes and that type of viewpoint is shared widely across this country I would imagine. Both sides are going to have to find some common ground and try to start discussing ways to solve this problem but right now things seem more divided than they have been in a while. The black community has got to stop the violence and perpetuating that stereotype and the govt and cops have got to start being more transparent and open with investigations and holding cops accountable for any shooting that was not warranted.

Thoughts go out to Charlotte its been a tough few nights for that city. Also, if McCrory spends another dime on his campaign this year that guy is just as dumb as he looks lately. He may as well hang it up he is done.

9/22/2016 9:51:10 AM

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/us/charlotte-protests/index.html

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"Vinson, who was in plain clothes and wearing a police vest, did not have a body camera. Three uniformed officers were wearing cameras. There are also dash-cam recordings, and investigators are reviewing the footage, Putney said."

9/22/2016 9:52:42 AM

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@Doss2k well put. Agreed.

9/22/2016 9:54:42 AM

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As someone who lives in Charlotte uptown, be careful to judge what is going on by what you see on the news.

Yes, the protests turned into small riots where looting and damage occurred.

But to say "those savages destroyed my city" is absurd. There's graffiti and some broken glass, and stolen jerseys and shoes. Honestly, except for the guy who got shit, not much happened.

The estimate I heard and sounds reasonable to me is that ~600 people participated in the protests last night, and not even 600 in one place at one time.

The other nearly 1 million Charlotteans did not protest, get violent, or largely change their daily life.

The media makes it seem like Charlotte is fucking burning and a rioting mess....

9/22/2016 9:55:25 AM

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"lot of emotions came out last night. I consider myself left leaning and was planning to vote for Gary Johnson.

But last night showed me the cultural/race war is here and if elections were today I think I'd vote for Trump."


You experienced a little bit of fear and you're ready to embrace the fascist.

9/22/2016 9:58:17 AM

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the cool thing about all this is thinking about how decades from now when kids in schools all over the world are learning about the fall of the united states and rise of the new fascist states of america they will have all of this internet material to research

for me as a kid when learning about WWII for the first time it was always hard to understand how people turned into nazis, but kids a few decades from now will be able to see it in full detail

9/22/2016 10:07:54 AM

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It was cool when the peasants were destroying other monuments to the aristocracy. (Live and let live I always say) but not MY monuments dammit.

9/22/2016 10:27:34 AM

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Supposedly, Scott's family, as well as the mayor, will get to see whatever footage there is today, presumably the non-shooting officer's body cameras and/or dashcam footage.

Also, dunno who this person is http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/21/i-saw-a-protester-get-shot-for-nothing-in-charlotte.html

9/22/2016 10:31:24 AM

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Trump just announced he thinks it's a good idea to have local police be able to search anyone without a warrant to see if they have a gun and seize it (stop and frisk).

How anyone can vote for this is perplexing.

9/22/2016 10:32:55 AM

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That worked out so well in NYC

9/22/2016 10:34:07 AM

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^^ because people want security and don't think they will ever be the ones who are stopped and searched so are okay with it because they are afraid of the people who are being stopped and searched

9/22/2016 10:38:17 AM

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Stop and frisk policies are only ever suggested by people who have never been stopped and never will be stopped randomly by a police officer, and frisked.

9/22/2016 10:41:11 AM

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Did someone say that they are now voting for Trump because the coming race war has started? Seriously?

9/22/2016 10:41:57 AM

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"But last night showed me the cultural/race war is here and if elections were today I think I'd vote for Trump."


Congrats; you are contributing to the problem.

9/22/2016 10:43:12 AM

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Last I checked, neither Trump nor Clinton would have the authority to decide how local police departments do their business.

[Edited on September 22, 2016 at 10:43 AM. Reason : re: stop and frisk]

9/22/2016 10:43:39 AM

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Exactly.

Trump can yell about stop and frisk and Clinton can cry all she wants about unjustified force but it is on each individual community to define how their LEOs are regulated.

9/22/2016 10:45:08 AM

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2 videos of Charlotte last night, the first is obviously more representative but the second should not be allowed to happen. The same way people react to the second video is how we should react to all types of racism, systemic, interpersonal or otherwise.

https://twitter.com/jessmram/status/778818897856167936

https://twitter.com/timcast/status/778962986912378880
I hope they can arrest and charge these people

9/22/2016 10:52:18 AM

NyM410
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That is brutal. Jesus Christ.

9/22/2016 10:55:55 AM

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https://twitter.com/brotherflourish/status/778968687990738945

Charlotte is now saying they aren't sure who shot the protester. It would not be good if the only shot fired, blamed on a protestor, turned out to be the police.

9/22/2016 10:56:33 AM

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that was actually the nicest "beat down" ive ever seen.

9/22/2016 10:56:41 AM

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"But last night showed me the cultural/race war is here"


LOL....seriously??? Well, give 'em hell.

9/22/2016 10:59:04 AM

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Charlotte is now saying they aren't sure who shot the protester. It would not be good if the only shot fired, blamed on a protestor, turned out to be the police.

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investigating who shot the protester doesn't mean "we aren't sure if it was police", they are investigating to try to find the person who did it and arrest them. one of the eyewitnesses describe someone shooting into the crowd, so for example that would be the kind of lead they investigate. you and the tweeter seem to be reading too much into the statement

9/22/2016 11:01:57 AM

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shout out to all the dudes who are ready to embrace fascism because someone got shot at a protest but can't even support background checks for all gun purchases despite gun violence every day

9/22/2016 11:05:53 AM

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^^You have an economy in the dumpster, everybody, mostly working-class citizens pissed off and angry, then out of the blue comes some guy who can really get to the working people of the world.

But here's the big difference between Hitler and Trump. Things were actually going pretty well in Germany (disclaimer: things were NOT going well in Germany for Jews - I'm talking about the country overall). Their economy was picking up, jobs were being created, and peoples lives were getting better (again, except for Jews). Had Hitler decided to not become a murderous real-life super villain, he may have actually gone down in the history books as a political leader who turned things around.

But instead he turned out to be a super-villain. Please don't take my post as support for Hitler, as it is certainly not. Just pointing out that Trump may actually be worse than pre-WWII Hitler.

If Trump were elected, I don't see anything changing for the better in this country. We still get the fascism, without the better economy.

9/22/2016 11:19:12 AM

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Only now reading about this.

To the individual earlier that said all they could dig up on the guy was a DUI:

-Convicted in April 2004 of misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges from this date were dismissed including felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, misdemeanor assault on a child under 12, assault on a female.
-Aforementioned DUI in Gaston County in April 2015.
-Pleaded guilty to multiple crimes in Charleston Vounty, S.C. in 1992. Carrying a concealed weapon (not a gun), simple assault, and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
-also charged in 1992 with aggravated assault and in 1995 with assault with intent to kill. Both charges were reduced, but disposition of cases unclear.
-in Bexar County, Texas, he was sentenced in March 2005 to 15 months in state jail for evading arrest. In July, he was sentenced to 7 years in prison on conviction of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. He served his sentence and was released by Texas in 2011.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article103175292.html

9/22/2016 11:19:59 AM

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