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UJustWait84
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I was wondering when Bastille would be relevant again.

9/20/2016 11:35:51 AM

JCE2011
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"Except the right's chosen presidential candidate is screaming 'MUSLIMS?! NOT IN MY COUNTRY!' and all of you cheer while the left's is the one actually in favor of more stringent background checks of immigrants/refugees, so I'm not sure where you're getting your argument.
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Which side wants to let in Syrian migrants? Hmmmm

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"How about both the Cleveland and Ferguson police departments are now under court ordered monitoring programs because investigations after each of those respective shootings turned up widespread brutality, illegal searches, tax collection/onerous fine schemes, illegal use of force, etc etc etc. And that, in each case, the primary target of those practices was Black People. Did the justice department fabricate those vague investigations too?"


The majority of Ferguson is black, so no shit. The majority of crime happens in the hood, so no shit. You have to separate bad policing from "racism". It isn't automatically racist just because the victim is black. That's the kind of stupidity that leads to #BLM. You know what the common theme in every single one of these shootings was? Asides from the victim being black, it was that they resisted arrest. I guess I just need to check my deciding-not-to-resist-arrest privilege tho

9/20/2016 12:22:44 PM

NyM410
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The father of this guy apparently went to the FBI two year ago saying his son was a terrorist. What happened from then, who knows... maybe there was no tangible evidence?

9/20/2016 12:31:16 PM

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"Which side wants to let in Syrian migrants? Hmmmm"

Theres no such thing as Syrian migrants so...neither?

9/20/2016 12:33:57 PM

TerdFerguson
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^^^God damn you're stupid

Ferguson is majority black, but it was detaining black people at like 8x the rate it detained white people.

A majority of "violent crime" happens in the hood. But if you read the reports cops were also citing people for random shit just to pull in tax money - jaywalking, broken tail lights, etc etc. the breakdown between community and police is bigger than just violent crimes and shootings. You continue to ignore that and try to isolate every situation to the current shooting, mostly so you can dismiss them individually instead of trying to understand what is happening in totality.

It's not automatically racist because the victim is black. However race is playing a factor when justice department investigations show that black communities are receiving an extremely disproportionate share of bad police practices.

No not every victim was resisting arrest. Get your head out of your ass.

[Edited on September 20, 2016 at 12:41 PM. Reason : The real question is: why do you NEED to deny that race is a factor. What's the motivation?]

9/20/2016 12:39:28 PM

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The guy is too goddamn dumb ( or trolling too hard) to have a rational and logical discussion with. Just throw the parrot on 'em from here on out

9/20/2016 1:14:02 PM

Kurtis636
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"The father of this guy apparently went to the FBI two year ago saying his son was a terrorist. What happened from then, who knows... maybe there was no tangible evidence?"


This is a really bad look for the intelligence community and similar in some ways to the Orlando shooter. I was quite critical of the lack of follow through then, and this one actually looks even worse. When the guys own father is reporting him maybe they should have had eyes on him or done a better job of monitoring him.

I'm once again left feeling like the lack of communication between agencies, fears about profiling, and wide spread misuse of resources has contributed to a failure by our federal agencies.

9/20/2016 1:22:36 PM

TerdFerguson
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^^agreed

What really beats me up is that there are quite a few real life (and Facebook) people using these exact arguments and it disturbs the shit out of me. TWW is my outlet for shitting on these people which gives me more room to be diplomatic IRL.

[Edited on September 20, 2016 at 1:25 PM. Reason : Rawr rawr ]

9/20/2016 1:24:59 PM

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"The father of this guy apparently went to the FBI two year ago saying his son was a terrorist. What happened from then, who knows... maybe there was no tangible evidence?
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He stabbed his brother, dad said he was a terrorist, probably has been nuts his whole life and his family knew. They really need to bring back mental institutions for cases like this.

9/20/2016 1:55:21 PM

0EPII1
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Any and every news thread in CC becomes

Trump vs. Hilary
Republicans vs. Democrats
Right vs. Left
Pro-immigrants vs. Anti-immigrants
JCE/Big4C vs. Everybody else



[Edited on September 20, 2016 at 2:00 PM. Reason : SMH]

9/20/2016 1:59:47 PM

TerdFerguson
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^the lines are drawn. You're either a dumb motherfucker or you're not.

9/20/2016 2:02:33 PM

The E Man
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eastern style vs western style

9/20/2016 2:03:59 PM

moron
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ha taliban wont claim him, wonder if isis will



[Edited on September 20, 2016 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ]

9/20/2016 2:04:28 PM

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"But if you read the reports cops were also citing people for random shit just to pull in tax money - jaywalking, broken tail lights, etc etc. "


If by "random shit" you mean traffic violations? Next time J get a parking ticket, I'm going to not pay it, then claim I'm being "oppressed". LOL. Again, you're mixing "shitty police" with "racism". If cops in a shit hole poor city are policing for profit, that doesn't mean you're a victim of racist policing if you get a parking citation. Yet from the victimhood narrative you SJWs push, that's exactly the mindset you create.

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"the breakdown between community and police is bigger than just violent crimes and shootings. You continue to ignore that and try to isolate every situation to the current shooting, mostly so you can dismiss them individually instead of trying to understand what is happening in totality."


I treat every situation on a case by case basis. You only fall back on the vague "systemic oppression" bullshit because you lose if you get too specific... because when it comes down to specific evidence, there is zero for this "racial oppression" narrative you SJWs cling to.

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"No not every victim was resisting arrest."


The overwhelming majority were, and at least I make the distinction. Unlike the SJWs that only see a dead black victim and a chance to virtue-signal.

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"The guy is too goddamn dumb "


Says the guy that tries to argue, then resorts to insults the second he realizes he can't defend his position. (Seems to be a pattern here)

9/20/2016 2:10:29 PM

EMCE
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He's like a pigeon playing chess. He flies in, shits all over the board, knocks all of the pieces over, and then struts around claiming that he won.

9/20/2016 2:40:00 PM

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9/20/2016 2:42:20 PM

JT3bucky
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Damn, DJ Khaled is going crazy.

9/20/2016 3:42:15 PM

JCE2011
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Solid arguments ITT. At least you tried for 1-2 posts before you started shit-posting.

9/20/2016 4:04:40 PM

The E Man
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^^i thought the same thing

9/20/2016 5:46:21 PM

moron
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so this guy was
- turned in to the FBI by his own muslim dad after stabbing his brother (who botched the follow through)
- had his bomb diffused by 2 thieves accidentally (possibly)
- had a Sikh see him in a bar and turn him in
- neglected to put shrapnel in the bombs
- used his own cell phone account to activate the detonator phones

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/20/us/harinder-bains-sikh-faith-trnd/

9/20/2016 9:34:35 PM

0EPII1
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All these terrorists in the US and Europe who are exposed to have been under the radar at some point in time by the authorities end up being successful at their demonic acts, people start wondering if they were allowed to succeed on purpose to create more conditions conducive to "let's go bomb dem a-rabs and mazlims because they just attacked us" and create more hatred and division in the world. And the illuminati and all that obviously neatly tie in with such conspiracy theories to create even grander conspiracy theories. I don't believe any such theories, but hundreds of millions do, and with good reason too, as such examples abound in history.

9/20/2016 10:30:16 PM

Kurtis636
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I'm not ready to go that far, but it seems like they're only successful in stopping the attacks they are helping to facilitate or suggesting to the mentally handicapped.

There are numerous cases of the FBI supplying people with materials and trying to radicalize someone in order to make a case. In the old days that would be called entrapment, but I guess not if you're going after "terrorism."

9/20/2016 10:50:22 PM

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why dont you have a seat over there

9/21/2016 2:00:03 AM

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