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3/10/2015 3:24:48 PM

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SAE ANNOUNCES THEIR ORGANIZATION WILL CONTINUE


3/10/2015 3:32:07 PM

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3/10/2015 3:46:21 PM

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I like the guy at the end of this video.



[Edited on March 10, 2015 at 4:43 PM. Reason : NO NO NO NO]

3/10/2015 4:43:27 PM

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2 expelled

http://jezebel.com/university-of-oklahoma-suspends-two-students-in-racist-1690565346?

3/10/2015 4:45:20 PM

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Now the state gets to pay them off via the inevitable law suit. These guys are racist d-bags, but public universities are bound by the first amendment and I'd be super surprised if a court finds that this meets the "severe and pervasive" standard.

3/10/2015 5:13:30 PM

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Honestly who gives a shit about a few racist dumbasses in Texas. Is this really groundbreaking or significant. So what a couple of 18-22 yr old dipshits dropped the N-bomb.

3/10/2015 5:31:35 PM

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I'm sure the university's code of conduct has some language in it that justifies their expulsion, otherwise their attorneys wouldn't have let them do it.

3/10/2015 5:32:27 PM

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"Honestly who gives a shit about a few racist dumbasses in Texas. Is this really groundbreaking or significant. So what a couple of 18-22 yr old dipshits dropped the N-bomb."


There's the HUR response we've all been longing for!

3/10/2015 5:49:55 PM

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^^ Public university codes of conduct don't trump Constitutional protections. There's a lot of case law to back that up.

[Edited on March 10, 2015 at 5:52 PM. Reason : not enough ^s]

3/10/2015 5:51:07 PM

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what are you talking about? of course they do.

Colleges expel people ALL THE TIME without any regard to whether anything is 'legal' or not.

3/10/2015 5:57:56 PM

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no, the song is an artistic expression so it actually is protected
Iota Xi Chapter of Sigma Chi Fraternity v. George Mason University
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/

3/10/2015 6:08:00 PM

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God damn, HUR doesn't even pretend to not be a racist shitbag

3/10/2015 6:08:56 PM

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Yes, it's my favorite part of this thread.

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"No they are not the same word you obtuse retard. Nigga is a term of endearment used by black people, think of it as a replacement for "brother". Nigger is a racist term used to insult black people."


Black people use "nigga" in a racist way plenty. For instance, no white person has ever complained to me about "nigga shit," but I've heard all about it from black people.

[Edited on March 10, 2015 at 6:20 PM. Reason : shorter]

3/10/2015 6:18:22 PM

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"Honestly who gives a shit about a few racist dumbasses in Texas. Is this really groundbreaking or significant. So what a couple of 18-22 yr old dipshits dropped the N-bomb."


just when you think he can't possibly out-HUR himself.....

dude even mixed Texas and Oklahoma up

3/10/2015 6:54:13 PM

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Can't have a thread involving racism without our own resident ignorant racist douchebag HUR making an appearance can we?

3/10/2015 7:28:53 PM

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http://m.mic.com/articles/112274/the-side-of-the-oklahoma-frat-story-that-nobody-is-talking-about

3/10/2015 8:26:54 PM

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One of the kids that was suspended apologized.

I bet he's just sorry he got caught.

3/10/2015 8:35:34 PM

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"Black people use "nigga" in a racist way plenty. For instance, no white person has ever complained to me about "nigga shit," but I've heard all about it from black people."


Yes I'm sure black people talk to you and refer to themselves as niggas. Its funny that closet racist whites always react the same way to any situation where someone faces consequences for saying nigger. "But black folks say nigga, why can't I call them niggers?" It's the same logic state uses to justify the racism/bigotry expression tunnel on campus. That tunnel has nigger painted in it so much they couldn't even take a picture in it for the freshman introduction book without having NIGGER in bold black letters. But its free speech right.

#FuckingStupid

3/10/2015 8:39:00 PM

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Even if you buy in to the argument that white people should be able to say the N-word in a friendly way as black people do, the frat was using it in the most racist way possible talking about hanging from a tree.

3/10/2015 8:40:22 PM

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Don't point that out, let them continue with their inner racist ramblings. "If you call yourself a nigga I can call you a nigger all day, fucking niggers yada yada yada"

It's retarded logic.

Same logic this frat used when they started singing that song in 2015.

[Edited on March 10, 2015 at 8:47 PM. Reason : ,]

3/10/2015 8:46:15 PM

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what the fuck? how in the hell did they possibly think this was a good idea?


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"You don't have to look too hard at ok'd demographics to see why racism can get a foothold. They don't have black people..."


Yeah, I mostly don't buy that argument. I think it works the other way around FAR more often, except when people actually associate closely with lots of members of other races.

3/10/2015 8:56:21 PM

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i say we vote to make the N-word an instant ban here on TWW

3/10/2015 9:03:08 PM

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They look drunk, but its telling how many of them went along with it, and how well they knew the words. It is obviously pretty well ingrained in their culture.

3/10/2015 9:04:05 PM

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Re: the whole "why can't people say the n word" thing. My opinion is that if a whole lot of people will get mad and offended if I say a certain word then I think I shouldn't say it. Like, I have no desire to say the n word. Thats the part I dont get, I guess. its very simple. Is it really so hard to just not say it?

^oh yeah. That's definitely not the first time thy sang that or anything. That's some rehearsed shit

[Edited on March 10, 2015 at 9:11 PM. Reason : H]

3/10/2015 9:10:06 PM

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why would any white person want to say it?

and quoting rap lyrics doesn't count. quoting within the context of a song isn't in the same universe as saying it just to say it.

3/10/2015 9:18:53 PM

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what if they just thought it was a catchy tune?

3/10/2015 9:20:11 PM

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I heard Roy Williams mumbling this the other night

3/10/2015 9:27:04 PM

BridgetSPK
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I got trolled by BlackJesus. I don't like it.

^LOL

3/10/2015 9:38:02 PM

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so are the racists gonna sue the school or what

3/10/2015 10:48:46 PM

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Quote :
"what the fuck? how in the hell did they possibly think this was a good idea?"


So you're suggesting they knew their racist song would be video'd and posted on the internets?

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"Same logic this frat used when they started singing that song in 2015. "


They just started singing this song in 2015? Are you in the frat or something?

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"why would any white person want to say it?"


Cause they hate black people?

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"quoting rap lyrics doesn't count. quoting within the context of a song isn't in the same universe as saying it just to say it."


+1

3/11/2015 12:09:10 AM

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Well, if we're gonna get into it, saying outrageous and offensive things is fun and funny. Saying them with another person is also a bonding experience because you've both violated a social norm together.

For no reason, I called adultswim a faggot on here a while ago just to see if I could. Nobody said anything, and the experience was delightful to me. Did it again about the guy who wouldn't publish The Daily Tar Hell because of his personal protest against hatred:

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"Though the sexism, racism, and homophobia fairly well disappeared at the start of the 2000s, the tradition of The DTH is one that will always be rooted in hateful humor."


Again, it was fun/funny for me because I'm insensitive and immature.

Anyway, this incident is still bad, and it could be used as evidence of a larger problem. So, if you wanna pin racism on some idiots or pretend you’re deeply saddened or outraged, then go for it. However, I don't know if these are the guys we want, if these are the guys who are really out to hurt others. It seems to me that we have much larger institutional problems that have to be addressed if we ever expect to approach anything close to equal opportunity for folks. But it is nice to have some whipping boys for a week or so.

3/11/2015 12:40:42 AM

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Let's hang them from a tree.

3/11/2015 1:11:43 AM

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"Have any of you ever had the pleasure of walking into a room of 100 and being the only white person there?"


This is a fairly regular occurrence for me, yes. I'm also the only white person who lives in my neighborhood and I attend a black church.

3/11/2015 5:30:04 AM

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Now the parents of Levi Pettit, the second kid expelled over this incident, have apologized on Levi's behalf.

In Parker Rice's apology, he said he "...is seeking guidance to ensure this never happens again". I really found that amusing for some odd reason. Seeking guidance?? Do you need a goddamn life coach to tell you not to be a racist scumbag?

3/11/2015 6:00:27 AM

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It's interesting that it turned out to be a FRESHMAN leading the chant. I don't know of any black frats/sororities that allow freshmen to pledge.

3/11/2015 7:38:46 AM

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^^yeah that line was odd. I guess he wanted to show that he was seeking help or whatever. But how much help do you need not to chant the n word and sing about hanging black people from trees?

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"Anyway, this incident is still bad, and it could be used as evidence of a larger problem. So, if you wanna pin racism on some idiots or pretend you’re deeply saddened or outraged, then go for it. However, I don't know if these are the guys we want, if these are the guys who are really out to hurt others. It seems to me that we have much larger institutional problems that have to be addressed if we ever expect to approach anything close to equal opportunity for folks. But it is nice to have some whipping boys for a week or so."


I agree that there are worse, larger issues in racism that need to be dealt with of course. But these students also do need to be punished and dealt with as well. Both are true.

[Edited on March 11, 2015 at 7:41 AM. Reason : H]

3/11/2015 7:40:41 AM

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I'm amazed at the building outcry for these kids to sue OU for being expelled. Amazed isn't the right word, everyone sues everyone today. If I was expelled for this shit, the last thing I would want to do is turn around and try to be an even bigger dick about all this.

3/11/2015 7:59:08 AM

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at the end of the day, they got booted for just saying mean things. i'd at least try and get my tuition back at that point

3/11/2015 8:02:59 AM

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They got booted for violating the code of conduct.

3/11/2015 8:14:15 AM

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HUR wins the page 3 Troll award. that was so subtle it was almost hard to tell.

3/11/2015 8:16:39 AM

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" However, I don't know if these are the guys we want, if these are the guys who are really out to hurt others. It seems to me that we have much larger institutional problems that have to be addressed if we ever expect to approach anything close to equal opportunity for folks."


I don't see the contradiction here. One of the ways you fix institutional problems is by throwing problematic people out of the institutions. It's worked pretty well so far.

3/11/2015 9:13:20 AM

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dude's not trolling, dude is just racist

3/11/2015 9:15:07 AM

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^

3/11/2015 9:28:58 AM

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"They got booted for violating the code of conduct."


I'm sure the code of conduct also frowns against people throwing rolls of toilet paper all over the trees on campus, but it happens, and no one gets kicked out.

Again, its good that they did, I guess, to make an example for what happens when you're stupid, but violating code of conduct is awfully vague.

3/11/2015 9:47:25 AM

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"I got trolled by BlackJesus. I don't like it. "


It's ok I have a "kills" list of users that I have trolled here.

3/11/2015 9:58:12 AM

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It's semantics. They were booted for singing racial slurs about killing black people.

They'll be fine though. It's enough punishment without totally ruining their life. They'll find another school and in a few years by the time they graduate we will have seen 100s of other videos of racist idiots and this particular incident will have been all but forgotten.

3/11/2015 9:58:50 AM

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"I heard Roy Williams mumbling this the other night"


with his looney tunes style of cursing, I wonder how long it took him to realize that he shouldn't use the phrase 'cotton-pickin' after 'dadgum' when yelling at, say a player who's being lazy in practice.

3/11/2015 10:00:56 AM

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My mother-in-law spent her youth picking cotton in the piedmont. What was your point about cotton-pickin?

It's hard work. It deserves to be a looney tunes curse word. Would you prefer the Bobby Knight method, with tirades of fuck you fuck you fuck you all over the court?

3/11/2015 10:39:12 AM

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/10/fallout-oklahoma-racist-video/24691017/

3/11/2015 10:42:44 AM

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