7/15/2011 6:56:22 PM

iseewhatyoudidthere

7/15/2011 8:21:45 PM

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"http://kotaku.com/5821230/ i like the sound of this. "

I don't, part of what I liked about MW2 is that it rewarded people for being good and smart. I understand that this probably frustrates the hell out of noobs getting bombed and unable to get into a well fortified position but I for one always like being able to pound another team into submission because we knew where to flank and where to hold and we could get a bunch of air support.

There was one time me and my friend decided to stock up helicopters and so from about 75 pts on to 200 in domination there wasn't a second without a heli in the air.

[Edited on July 15, 2011 at 11:06 PM. Reason : ]

7/15/2011 11:05:31 PM

All that said was "blah blah I camp blah blah camping gets me kills blah blah blah"

7/16/2011 2:48:05 AM

^^ there's a difference between being skilled, mastering difficult techniques, coordination, execution, etc and exploiting broken mechanics. the fact that you could come into a match a literally have no chance of getting out of spawn, while some could argue is realistic, is not fun and doesn't make for a worthwhile gameplay mechanic.

7/16/2011 1:31:49 PM

^^lolwut?

7/16/2011 1:39:44 PM

^^absolutely true, the only map I ever actually spawn camp on is in mw2 is high rise, otherwise I just like to be mobile and out flank people. I just don't want it to be a situation like halo is where you just have to perfect headshot to be any good. I don't have the time or reflexes to be good like I used to at that and I never felt here were ways to compensate for that with coordination or smart play in certain games.

7/16/2011 8:14:56 PM

Aww the pussy campers don't like the new game is going to be more run-and-gun and objective based.

Cry me a river. I love it.

7/19/2011 12:39:41 AM

i too love the sound of that. I would still play COD4:MW if it wasn't completely hacked out these days.

7/19/2011 8:10:05 AM

I camped my ass off in COD4, there were tons of places to camp

sounds like they're just trying to get money from anyone they can

people are gonna bitch once the game comes out regardless...fucking campers! fucking snipers! fucking ghosters! fucking run and stabbers! fucking spawn system! fucking lag! fucking hit markers!

7/19/2011 4:41:43 PM

I only complain when bullets bend around hard corners such as rocks and concrete walls. every version if the game

7/19/2011 10:37:25 PM

More than half the fun is having something, anything, to rage at while I play.

7/20/2011 8:10:49 AM

I just can't wait for the next ground-breaking advancement that will make the series amazing again (The way COD4 did for the series).

My hopes are for some Starship Troopers-esque (the book) futuristic combat. Mechwarrior meets COD4 perhaps.

Or anything different than how it is now.

7/20/2011 5:23:05 PM

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"The makers of Modern Warfare 3's multiplayer mode are creating maps that include no more than five hotspots—places from which enemy players may be hiding or shooting—for a gamer to worry about at any one time."

btw I would argue that this might lead to more frustrating camping, sure there may be less places to do this but that likely means more choke points. Everyone rushes to the fewer points and once one group claims the space it makes a tighter map and you have to go through more people to get by. Camping could be bad in MW2 but once you figured out where somebody was camping you could pretty easily avoid it with a few exceptions. Not to mention the explosives (which I know people complain about) made getting rid of campers extremely easy. Somebody decides to be a dick and you can just whip out a noob tube or RPG and flush them out easy.

At the end of the day a lot of the changes they made in Black ops to answer complaints made of mw2 resulted in a less fun game overall imho.

Sure you might get beasted by some air support every now and again (not like you can't come out cold blooded anyway) but in black ops you hardly ever reach any of the higher kill streaks and I don't think thats very fun at the end of the day.

7/20/2011 5:35:09 PM

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"you hardly ever reach any of the higher kill streaks"

you roll with a different crowd than i do; the warriors get choppers/dogs on a regular basis


what do i want to see in MW3?

an at least half-hearted attempt at a decent spawn system

[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 8:28 PM. Reason : ]

7/20/2011 8:28:21 PM

^well we don't camp
(EDIT: And maybe this is just in comparison to MW2)

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"an at least half-hearted attempt at a decent spawn system"

This I think we can all agree with, I'm tired of having someone spawn looking at my back.

[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ]

7/20/2011 8:30:30 PM

how about when someone looks blind/concussed, and appear to be firing their weapon at their feet and waving their hands around, it doesn't end up being them aiming directly at you

how about when you only see their head and you get hit markers, it gives you a headshot

7/20/2011 8:33:06 PM

how about a sniper rifle that doesn't hit marker when i pop somebody in the chest no more than 20 feet in front of me?

how about a submachine gun that doesn't beat an assault rifle at medium to long range?

[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 8:36 PM. Reason : ]

7/20/2011 8:35:04 PM

How about a killstreak that gives you unlimited tomahawks where you don't have to reload

7/20/2011 8:36:04 PM

^ how about adding OMA back in ?

7/20/2011 8:36:43 PM

I for one would not complain

7/20/2011 8:38:11 PM

how about TT10 using commas to add appropriate pauses in his statements, am i right

7/20/2011 8:49:30 PM

How about co-op killstreaks:

One person pilots the chopper, one person guns.

7/20/2011 8:51:43 PM

^^says the guy who doesn't even capitalize the first letter of his username

^that would be pretty cool

7/20/2011 8:57:19 PM

well whateva ya name is...



regarding the 2-user killstreak, i think there'd be issues if one person had more of a lag than the other, but i dont think that'd stop the developers

[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 9:01 PM. Reason : ]

7/20/2011 9:00:14 PM

lower-case-first-letter-usernames UNITE!!!

7/20/2011 9:01:24 PM

Detective John Kimble!

speaking of detectives and co-op killstreaks, how about co-op anti-air support


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3MHlF_HwZQ#t=75s

7/20/2011 9:01:39 PM

7/20/2011 9:02:54 PM

i'll be happy if it's an updated/patched version of MW2. subtract a few things and it would've been the best COD ever made.

also, supposedly cold blooded and ghost will be in the game. ghost to hide you from uav, cold blooded to hide you from the other killstreaks. seems like a good way to go since stopping power isn't coming back.

7/21/2011 12:57:25 AM

Yeah, more stealth perks so shitty players like me can hang.

And I hope there is a single player scene again like No More Russian where they play Yakety Sax.

7/21/2011 7:45:39 AM

How about co-op perks where all members combine like a Megazord and begin terrorizing the map. And then the other team could get it simultaneously, leading to some epic slow-mo brawls.

Just spitballing here.

7/21/2011 8:10:23 AM

Haha dweedle with a Hot Shots Part Deux reference. Awesome!

A mix of MW/MW2 would be great as long as they don't bring back the fucking nuke. How dumb. Although I got a few.....legit too btw my kills are still on the leaderboard unlike most on ps3.

7/21/2011 9:48:26 PM

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"Aww the pussy campers don't like the new game is going to be more run-and-gun based. "

Are you serious? This is why i like CoD MW and quit playing Halo. I should not have to unload half a clip into a player to kill them.

Quote :

"The makers of Modern Warfare 3's multiplayer mode are creating maps that include no more than five hotspots—places from which enemy players may be hiding or shooting"

So retarted. A real battlefield espicially in urban warfare is full of nooks and crannies where the enemy could be hiding. Sounds like they are catering to the
I am going to run blindly around the board spray and pray crowd.

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"Sure you might get beasted by some air support every now and again (not like you can't come out cold blooded anyway) but in black ops you hardly ever reach any of the higher kill streaks and I don't think thats very fun at the end of the day. "

The problem with MW2 was that the kill streak kills chained into your next kill streak. MW2 became to rediculous with players going 25-2 simply because killstreak chaining.

7/22/2011 3:47:48 PM

^ yeah but if people are stupid and feed killstreaks I think you should be entitled to go that high. Every person in my normal play group has both a cold blooded and anti air class. Everyone we have knows to knock that down quick.

Cold blooded will protect you from pretty much everything except for stealth, EMP, and nuke.


EDIT: I will concede the killstreaks in mw2 engourage cheating, but if you are watching for it thats easy to stop and its fucking hilarious to just follow around somebody trying to run the tac. insert method to give his friend kills and then have him get pissed about it.

[Edited on July 22, 2011 at 4:05 PM. Reason : more]

7/22/2011 4:02:14 PM

I just recalled all the times I would call in Harriers and hide

7/22/2011 4:28:21 PM

yeah the problem with MW2 is if you got a good 7 kills or so, you could easily turn that into 14 or more just by hiding somewhere and calling your Harrier, Attack Chopper and Chopper Gunner

7/22/2011 4:29:34 PM

Simple solution is for the other team to shoot it down...

7/22/2011 4:53:46 PM

^ well described.

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"I will concede the killstreaks in mw2 engourage cheating, but if you are watching for it thats easy to stop and its fucking hilarious to just follow around somebody trying to run the tac. insert method to give his friend kills and then have him get pissed about it. "

I caught someone doing that in Black Ops.

7/22/2011 4:54:17 PM

Or when you have boosters on your team and you message the players on the other team "They're in the corner of [building] boosting", every round.

So much satisfaction.

7/22/2011 5:00:29 PM

^seriously, even when it was in our favor I try to make sure to kill the guy first and get rid of the tac insertion so there's no benefit to the other guy, usually after a few times they quit out

I honestly think the biggest problem with killstreaks in MW2 is bad spawns and having stupid teamates. A little bit of sense will keep you from getting choppered or nuked most of the time and the only thing that can really fuck you up is one guy not using cold blooded and getting the rest of the team shot at a spawn.

7/22/2011 9:12:41 PM

On the whole I think MW2 just gives you tons of avenues to do things. Yeah there can be some cheap shit but its never really that hard to counter or avoid.

If you make fewer hotspots on the map and give people less options on reliably killing I think it will make the game more frustrating. Its not like there won't still be cheap shit and camping.

7/24/2011 2:47:53 PM

Less hotspots makes me think of maps like Killhouse or Countdown...

and oh how I avoided those servers.

7/24/2011 9:08:31 PM

How about another small-ass map like Shipment so we can get 100 kills a round!

7/24/2011 9:24:10 PM

Shipment is still one of my favorites. I used to slaughter on that one.

7/24/2011 9:44:34 PM

Should we start a roster for this?

Just so we know who's definitely going to get this, or who might be leaving for another game.

7/27/2011 10:34:34 AM

Shipment was great. I loved throwing two frags at spawn, sprinting to the center and blasting 3 n00bs with the shotty in less than 15 seconds.

7/27/2011 11:20:11 AM

I suspect Infinity Ward will fuck up the leaderboards again. Nothing has been as good as the leaderboards on World at War (Treyarch). MW2 was awful. Black-Ops was better, but not as good as WAW.

But I suspect I'll still buy it. My hopes are pinned to a better Battlefield 3.

7/27/2011 11:31:22 AM

^I'll be rolling BF3 on the pc for the bigger squads, will still probably play MW3 with my console folks

7/27/2011 11:45:17 AM

Yeah, thats my biggest bitch about BF3 with the console. There is no way to communicate between squads, and there is no commander. I wish they could incorporate a commander into the game, like old PC versions.

But thats for the BF3 thread, not the MW3 thread

7/27/2011 12:27:41 PM

I'll def. be getting MW3. Sign me up.

7/27/2011 1:42:50 PM