10/17/2009 11:40:48 AM
Who are FAIR's sources? Yet again, omnious quotes that you found from an archived article over 9 years old. Sigh...http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700I'm sure this ^ will make Soros a hero in your eyes.
10/17/2009 11:46:13 AM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp3 of your 5 quotes have no sources. Rush made the bone comment as a shock jock back in the '70s and the Jackson quote was made before 1990. Seriously, if that's the best you can do, that's pretty damn pathetic.It also shows your gullibility, boone, and a serious lack of credibility on any issue. You are just a product of your ilk, you really can't help it. You're programmed to know it all even when the burden of proof proves to be all too much of a burden. But you know it's true deep down, so it's ok. [Edited on October 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ]
10/17/2009 11:53:13 AM
I stopped reading after:
10/17/2009 12:51:14 PM
LOL that's the best you have? Those are pretty tame. Sarcasm is certainly lost on you people. Your failed attempts to put Rush under a klan hood is cute though, if not predictably pathetic.
10/17/2009 1:06:02 PM
What's even more adorable is that when the burden of proof is put on you, you shrug off your lies that you see as truth as if they didn't happen.
10/17/2009 1:08:54 PM
i'm curious what the big deal with a private individual choosing to distance himself from a divisive figure so that he can get a deal done. seems like capitalism to me.
10/17/2009 1:10:03 PM
The problem is that the things that supposedly made Rush so divisive were made up to the point where lawsuits are going to be filed. Yet again, it's not about the burden of proof, but the seriousness of the allegation. I wish the guy who was bidding on the Rams wanted to stick it out so Rush could clear his name, but the damage has been done, regardless of the evidence or lack thereof.
10/17/2009 1:12:59 PM
10/17/2009 1:15:25 PM
^^^^ They were cited in an article from a decently reputable source. The fact that no original transcripts exist to prove or disprove the quotes doesn't make them OMG LIESAnd I assume you typed that with a straight face, even after citing the "canadafreepress," whatever that is. Could you provide me with evidence that Soros actually took part in and enjoyed confiscating Jewish property during WWII, as your source suggests?
10/17/2009 1:17:04 PM
Ah ok so you're perfectly fine with the way things happened and therefore justifies the lies and allegations. Gotcha.
10/17/2009 1:17:50 PM
^^ FAIR is a decently reputable source?
10/17/2009 1:19:12 PM
Decently, yes
10/17/2009 1:20:08 PM
Incredibly reputable, compared to canadafreepress.(Hey, I can post like Wlfpk4Life)PS:
10/17/2009 1:21:02 PM
There's lots of copies of the transcripts floating around about Soros, here's a review that was done a few years ago of the 60 Minutes interview:http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2009/3610soros_rumpstilt.htmlI tried to find it on youtube but to no avail.
10/17/2009 1:28:10 PM
Your canadafreepress article indicates that after fleeing Nazi persecution, he actively took part in confiscating Jewish property, and enjoyed doing it.And what you're doing there ^ is exactly what you're accusing me of doing, only with a much, much sketchier source.[Edited on October 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM. Reason : ]
10/17/2009 1:29:07 PM
LOL your decently credible source gets 60 percent of its supposed legitimate quotes wrong and yet they're somehow still credible in your eyes. Now that's funny, I don't care who you are, and more importantly tells me just how much you care about the truth.
10/17/2009 1:29:53 PM
^^ Do your own google search. In fact I'll help you. Psst...you might have to visit a "decently credible source" besides, FAIR, Media Matters, or the Daily Kos for this one.http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=soros+60+minutes+interview+jews&rlz=1R2SUNA_enUS335&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
10/17/2009 1:32:24 PM
10/17/2009 1:33:35 PM
http://www.debbieschlussel.comsweetness-light.combsimmons.wordpress.comhttp://www.larouchepub.comhttp://www.sorosmonitor.comNo, FAIR is still better. Although it led me to a snopes forum which indicated that Coulter directly accused Soros of being a "Nazi collaborator" while speaking on Hannity. Which is interesting. Imagine the "damage done" with that comment.
10/17/2009 1:39:41 PM
Unverifiable at best, blatant lies at worst. Yet again, it's not the burden of proof but the seriousness of the allegation. It reminds me of Dan Rather when he was caught in his tangled web of lies and deceit with relation to Bush and his days in the national guard. Even when there was no proof to back up Rather's claims, he still said he knew it was true. LOL. That ol' burden of proof thing is a slippery one.
10/17/2009 1:40:06 PM
I think it's more reminiscent of the Swift Boat ads, John Kerry's African lover, Vince Foster, McCain's black baby, the Birthers, Obama's college "funding," Obama's Muslim faith, and accusations that Soros is a Nazi collaborator. At least Dan Rather got fired. And at least the premise of the story was true-- Bush ducked Vietnam.[Edited on October 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM. Reason : ]
10/17/2009 1:42:19 PM
FAIR has an agenda, and they apparently don't mind printing lies or speculative "unverifiable" sources, which to me shows me that they do not have a shred of journalistic integrity or decency. A good journalist always backs up his claims with these pesky things known as facts. Being nothing more than a liberal rumor mill consisting of lies does not a credible source make.
10/17/2009 1:42:44 PM
Still waiting on evidence backing up your canadafreepress article.You know what, I've given you half a dozen verified, straight-up racist quote from Limbaugh spanning multiple decades. This tangent is going nowhere. [Edited on October 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ]
10/17/2009 1:43:42 PM
I wonder if Rush and Soros are so caught up in politics, that they still think the Rams are the Super Bowl winning caliber team they were 10 years ago, and not actually the worst team in the NFL who has lost 15 straight games dating back to week 7 last year?
10/17/2009 1:49:00 PM
From MediaMatters, another leftwing blog, who acknowledges the 60 Minutes interview. I mean seriously, if the interview didn't happen, don't you think Soros or somebody else would have spoken up by now?http://mediamatters.org/research/200702050005[Edited on October 17, 2009 at 2:14 PM. Reason : ]
10/17/2009 2:14:32 PM
What about some of this stooge's questionable quotations? MSNBC Reporter [David Shuster] Begrudgingly Apologizes For Chelsea "Pimp" Comment02-8-08 Just look at this smug fuckhead. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/08/msnbc-reporter-begrudging_n_85706.htmlAnd as far as I know, Rush Limbaugh never killed anybody.
10/18/2009 6:04:13 PM
10/18/2009 6:15:58 PM
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE I CAN'T PROVE IT BUT I KNOW IT'S TRUE!!!11!!when in doubt, always fall back on the race card. Sweet Jesus, only if your mom would have dropped you on your head one more time.
10/19/2009 7:42:53 AM
I did not read this entire thread but I can guess how it has gone. I can understand the owner's position. They do not want a media whore as part owner...a person who makes a lot of money to make (sometimes) outrageous comments to be a figurehead for the franchise. That is a legitimate concern. The only thing that annoys me about this whole thing are the comments players are making.1. most of your owners are already probably rich old white republicans2. look in the mirror and at your teammates...there is no room for any player to throw stones...the NFL has its share of violent offenders, DUI's, vulgarity, etc...they have no room to talk about 'standards' and such
10/19/2009 8:28:27 AM
10/20/2009 12:00:43 AM
What about Howard Stern? If he wanted, should he be allowed to purchase an NFL team? If so, why? If not, why not?
10/20/2009 2:56:05 PM
Howard Stern is a comedian. Rush Limbaugh, while offensive to the point of comedy, is not joking.
10/20/2009 3:33:34 PM
Imus was just joking about the Rutgers womens team]
10/20/2009 3:43:50 PM
there is no way the NFL would want/let Howard Stern be an owner/part owner of a teamever
10/20/2009 4:34:20 PM
^^^ Howard Stern is a radio host--and so is Rush Limbaugh.
10/20/2009 4:42:05 PM
10/20/2009 7:44:13 PM
If I were in a club and Rush Limbaugh wanted to join I would not want him to because I would not want to be associated with him (let alone have to actually associate with him). If I had the ability to vote against or block his membership I would do so. If that makes me a liberal/murderer/racist/whatever else the NFL is accused of being, then so be it.
10/20/2009 8:41:29 PM
10/21/2009 1:54:25 AM
NPR's Juan Williams--a well-known liberal black man--was told to "go back to the porch" by so-called activist and radio host Warren Ballentine on a major cable news channel last week. Williams' offense? He made the "mistake" of defending Rush Limbaugh. I didn't hear a peep out of any of you about it.
10/21/2009 4:32:44 AM
You probably didn't hear anything about it because it has NOTHING to do with the fucking topic. Is Ballentine on the ownership team? I'm confused why you would even mention that in this thread.
10/21/2009 9:09:40 AM
well, actually, it is relevant because ballantine was one of the ones castigating rush for his racist remarks.it speaks to the larger issue of a double standard when it comes to racism between liberals and conservatives.
10/21/2009 9:17:00 AM
^It's two black nobodies who don't make near as much money as Rush Limbaugh.It's no secret that nobody really cares what black people say, especially when they ain't got shit in terms of power and especially when they're saying it to each other.But I'll comment: Juan Williams was either delusional or straight up lying to appeal to Fox viewers and get more airtime with them. Rush Limbaugh has been misquoted apparently, but there are still enough real quotes and thinly veiled racist remarks to support the notion that he is a racist or he says racist stuff to make good, controversial radio. The fact that Juan Williams completely ignored all the real stuff and kept insisting that Limbaugh had simply been maligned with fake quotes was very frustrating.Now, if you wanna talk about a "larger issue," it's the two-sided nature of television news. I sincerely doubt that Juan Williams really believes the shit he was saying, and I'm willing to concede there's a third explanation for why he said what he did. Before the segment, perhaps the two adopted opposing positions and agreed to debate. Williams simply kept pounding away with the "unfairly maligned" bit and largely glossed over Ballentine's legitimate points. Even if he agreed with Ballentine, he couldn't admit it because he had to stick with his side of the debate.When you arrange some fake debate like that, people eventually get frustrated. And they eventually say really, really stupid and inappropriate shit like "go back to the porch." Ballentine was way out of line. But I honestly just don't care that one black man called another black man an Uncle Tom. A white person who does really, really care about this incident and gets all in a tither over it may need to check themselves...Now, if you wanna talk about racist black people, let's talk Jesse Jackson irrationally hating Jewish people...OH WAIT, white people hate Jews too![Edited on October 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM. Reason : ]
10/21/2009 1:34:06 PM
^ Juan Williams isn't a nobody--you are.
10/21/2009 2:00:51 PM
10/21/2009 2:57:45 PM
^,^^I used the phrase "black nobodies" on purpose--tryna be controversial. Frankly, they're black, and they're not named Jackson or Sharpton...nobody cares. I'm not saying it's right, just saying most people can't be bothered to keep up with more than a couple black people at a time...Obama's kinda taking up all the available attention right now. Really, unless you're the president or nearing a political caricature, white people really aren't interested.Juan Williams' career is impressive (except for the part where he works on Fox news discussing trivial shit about whether or not Limbaugh has been unfairly maligned).And, despite all his credits, still nobody cares.You wanted to know why people hadn't remarked on the "porch" comment...it's because nobody cares.Sorry?
10/21/2009 3:45:05 PM
Did you guys hear Ballentine told Williams to go back to the porch?OOOOOOOooooo, this is such juicy news that everybody should be talking about. First, I'll probably have to give you a history of who Ballentine and Williams are and why you should care about them. Then I'll have to explain the history behind "go back to the porch" and Uncle Tom's Cabin. But once you understand all the players involved, you're gonna be so outraged what this one black man said to this other black man. You're really gonna care and tell all your friends about it!
10/21/2009 3:51:41 PM
If Rush was made a part owner, he gets more $texas. if they keep him out for whatever reason, he rants on his show, he gets more $texas.Hes pretty damned good at what he does.
10/21/2009 3:52:00 PM
Upon further review: The word on Rushby Jason Whitlock October 22, 2009
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