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BJCaudill21
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it was probably the refs trying to make the higher market team win, like donagy says.. or whatever

10/30/2009 10:41:05 PM

TreeTwista10
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i figured the refs mostly betted over/unders which they'd have more control over...the line was Bobcats -2.5 but I'm not sure the O/U

10/30/2009 10:42:13 PM

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That was fucking pathetic

We have zero players who can create their own shot...ZERO

Felton does the same goddamn thing he's been doing for five years

Dribble the ball and just stand there like a mongloid while none of his teammates even move

Stephen Graham is the one who made the biggest shot of the game for us...STEPHEN GRAHAM

Nice job Larry you dumb bastard of not subbing at all for the end of regulation and both overtimes

It made perfect sense to leaven Radmonavic in there hitting nothing but air and bricks all night long

Chandler is a huge cunt with worse hands than Okafor, which I didn't think was possible

Nice job of charging thirteen dollars for a FUCKING PRETZEL bobcats management, thats sure to be a hot seller

Nice shirt Paul Silas

Steve Javie told one of our assisstants to shut the fuck up

Diop looks like Bokeem Woodbine

Have fun getting raped by Cleveland tomorrow with no lube and no condom

This team will be lucky to win 30 games

10/30/2009 11:46:22 PM

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flip murray can create his own shot.


unfortunately he's out.

10/31/2009 12:06:58 AM

BJCaudill21
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^^ then take wall, and be a huge success.

oh wait, i forgot the NBA has the lottery, so we probably wouldn't get that pick..

10/31/2009 12:21:02 AM

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Flip Murray ?

You think he's the answer to our offensive struggles ?

Go Fuck yourself

10/31/2009 3:11:51 AM

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Flip Murray can light it up, but if he's a factor on our team. It is bad. Nobody on our team can finish round the cup. I sid that watching us last year. and sure enough I looked it up and our team was blocked more than any other. You need athleticism nd we don't have it. Wallace is the losest, but he shoud be third best player on a good team not end all be all.

10/31/2009 10:33:34 AM

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^^^^^damn who pissed in your free bud light, grilled chicken wings and steak soft tacos in the back court bar?

10/31/2009 12:27:08 PM

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you did Tommy, you took the jam out'a my doughnut

10/31/2009 12:29:06 PM

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i didnt say he was the answer to our problems. you said we had no one that could create our own shot, and i said we did have 1 guy. i never once indicated he was our savior on offense.

10/31/2009 3:31:33 PM

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this team turns the ball over like every other possession

11/1/2009 12:17:15 AM

Slave Famous
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just shot 8 for 42 in the first half

bravo

11/2/2009 8:31:22 PM

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Bobcats are fucking horrible

11/2/2009 8:32:47 PM

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the Nets, the friggin Nets are making us look like this!

11/2/2009 8:37:17 PM

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i just turned it on expecting to be down 20 in the 3rd

actually up by 1? how bad are the nets

11/2/2009 8:51:46 PM

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First team to 70 wins




if anyone makes it that far

11/2/2009 8:56:18 PM

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this is better, but I still dont feel like I'm watching an NBA game

11/2/2009 9:04:13 PM

Slave Famous
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jesus 24-0

talk about jekyll and hyde

11/2/2009 9:05:50 PM

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lol

24-0 run




yea i feel like im obligated to watch this, like im at a friend's little brother's game

[Edited on November 2, 2009 at 9:06 PM. Reason : ]

11/2/2009 9:05:56 PM

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11/2/2009 9:27:05 PM

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back to .500

11/2/2009 9:29:42 PM

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Wallace with 24 points and 20 rebounds. Wow.

11/3/2009 10:23:41 AM

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Told you people were overreacting. We are going to be one of the best defensive teams in the league which automatically gives us a chance to compete nightly.

Obviously we need to get better on offense and probably become more uptempo because we aren't built for halfcourt

11/3/2009 1:08:03 PM

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Tough to watch

We're going to have to win some late 90's Heat/Knicks style 71-66 games this year

11/3/2009 1:10:57 PM

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they've beaten a 1-3 and an 0-4 team

im not quite at "everything will be alright with this team" just yet

11/3/2009 1:20:18 PM

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IMO, they've got to get DJ on the court more. I like Felton, but he doesn't have Augustin's potential on the offensive end.

11/3/2009 1:59:40 PM

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Averaging only 79.8 pts a game, which is the lowest in the NBA. Then we go and put up 61 in the first have against the Hawks. Playing well so far, 61-48 at the half.

11/6/2009 8:15:05 PM

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Good win tonight 103-83. Now 3-2 on the season.

Gerald Wallace 11 pts 18 reb 2ast 1 stl 1 blk
Boris Diaw 10 pts 9 reb 4 ast
Tyson Chandler 10 pts 10 reb 4 blk
Raja Bell 24 pts 4 ast
Raymond Felton 7 pts 7 ast 3 reb
Flip Murray 15 pts 6 reb
DJ Augustin 11 pts 3 reb 3 ast

11/6/2009 9:26:43 PM

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from the stats on sportsline, looks like the difference was charlotte made more than half of their 3s and the hawks were like 2-18 or so

11/6/2009 9:35:14 PM

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I could be wrong, but is this the first time in team history they've had a winning record?

11/7/2009 1:54:43 PM

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You are wrong

11/7/2009 1:56:40 PM

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It might be the first time they've been over .500 at least 5 games into the season

11/7/2009 3:48:00 PM

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Told you we had our best roster yet... rumor has it we're trying to land Stephen Jackson... they wont bite on Nazr or Radmanovic though and want Diaw... supposedly we offered diaw for jackson and turiaf...

11/7/2009 7:50:57 PM

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blew the lead at the end of the third then started playing sloppy... and felton still can't shoot. surprised how long the starters played. guess Larry Brown doesn't trust his bench at all

11/7/2009 10:15:42 PM

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Well the refs let the Bulls go on a tear at the end of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th. The announcers wouldn't shut up about us "falling in love with jump shots" but we were hitting them all night and we weren't getting the calls when we took it to the basket.

Noah is just an animal. If Rose develops into a stud that team's nucleus is pretty nice.


Anyway, we look like a very competitive team so far. We almost stole a road win on a back to back.

Felton just isn't going to get there I guess. He's a huge liability at the end of the game because he simply can't hit the shots they give him. He wasn't even close last night. He's a terrific backup but he's a supermarginal starter at this level because he can't finish games.

Our defense looks awesome, we were stealing passes left and right.

11/8/2009 10:27:42 AM

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Classic fan conundrum:

Going to see Orlando and Vince isn't playing...as a fan, you want the Bobcats to have a better chance of winning, but you also want to see the best players play

But fuck it, Vince (and Rashard Lewis) aren't must see guys anymore...and Howard will rape Chandler regardless


oh and

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"At this early stage of the season, there are only a couple teams that are completely and totally out of the playoff picture: the New Jersey Nets and Sacramento Kings. Every other team's fans can entertain wild-eyed dreams of playoff basketball. Can we benefit from their situations?

First, the Nets. The only player we have that makes sense for them is Raja Bell. He's got an expiring contract that fits in with their plan to clear cap space for this offseason and sign free agents to complement their interesting young players, like Courtney Lee, Yi Jianlian, and Brook Lopez. Unfortunately for the Bobcats, the Nets have done too good a job of clearing cap space. The only players with guaranteed contracts for next season are guys they'll almost certainly want to keep, and it doesn't make any sense for them to swap out an expiring contract for an expiring contract. We probably won't be able to even start a conversation with them unless, improbably, they grow weary of Yi and figure they'd rather cut bait.

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The Kings are a different story, though. They've got some messy contracts and fiscal pressure that we might be in position to massage with a calculated gamble. No one they'd be able to offer us is a game-changer who would guarantee us the playoffs, but if they want to get out from under a horrific contract, they can give us that contract and a very good player to fill out our rotation. I'd be most interested in Spencer Hawes or Jason Thompson to come off the bench and be a backup to both Diaw and Chandler. Unfortunately, it looks like we'd have to take back Beno Udrih in any deal, which makes no sense for the Cats, because Andres Nocioni's deal is only one year longer than Radmanovic's and Mohammed's (not worth it for Sacto), and Francisco Garcia's long deal is still subject to Base Year Compensation provisions, so we can't make that work.

Here's where I'm going with this: I don't see any trades that make sense for the Bobcats, even after other teams start dropping out of the playoff hunt. No, wait. I take that back. There's one. When the Warriors give up on this season, they might consider trying to clear out some space and trade Raja straight up for Ronny Turiaf. The big guy has an unwieldy contract, extending through 2012, but he would make the team better by being a defensive presence (and about the same scorer as Chandler, i.e. way better than Diop) off the bench at both the PF and C positions. Bell, as professional as he is, is primarily a contract figure at this point, and if we put Flip in at the two, we'd get better offense, probably making up for any drop in defense, and if we put Augustin or Henderson in at that spot, we'd be giving much needed playing time to a young player. I'd also argue that we probably wouldn't see much drop in production.

The biggest problem for the Cats is that every other team is either set for the 2010 offseason, set for the 2011 offseason, or will be looking for a player to help them this season, which Bell is not. Boris Diaw might be attractive to a contender, but his contract is extremely daunting. Gerald Wallace will be attractive to a contender, but I'm not sure it's such a good idea to trade away a guy who outproduces his pay scale. And Raymond Felton, of course, might be a bench upgrade for someone with the bonus that he's an expiring contract, but the contender that needs a point guard upgrade, either starter or bench, and sees Felton as said upgrade probably isn't a contender.

It's Rosterbation Monday! Are we stuck dreaming about John Wall? Or is there someone our there for the taking that we can steal? (See? I made it this far without mentioning Joe Alexander!)"


[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 9:40 AM. Reason : x]

11/10/2009 9:40:13 AM

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i'll be there tonight to see the jail blazers

11/14/2009 4:28:57 PM

dweedle
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30 pts at the half

gg

11/14/2009 8:08:50 PM

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Welp we found a 2 guard that can score. Head case or not he can score.

Bobcats get:
Stephen Jackson
Acie Law

Warriors get:
Raja Bell
Vlad Radmanovic

I like it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4659552

[Edited on November 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM. Reason : link]

11/16/2009 11:11:48 AM

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and we keep Boris ?

I love that deal

Even tho he's a headcase, Jackson can produce offense

He has three years left on his deal, but we're cap-fucked for the next three years anyway, so its not going to matter

11/16/2009 11:17:48 AM

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Shit. I hate Stephen Jackson. I understand the need, and I think the Bobcats are again winners here ... but damn.

[Edited on November 16, 2009 at 11:45 AM. Reason : ]

11/16/2009 11:45:30 AM

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Steven Jackson is the man. Just don't throw your beer on one of his teammates and he PROBABLY won't come into the stands after you.

11/16/2009 11:48:48 AM

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Great trade we get badly needed scoring without giving up much on defense since jackson is good on both ends. He's also a creator and played a lot of pg last year. This leads me to believe we may shop ray if we don't catch on fire with this lineup.

From a contract standpoint jackson isn't really overpaid and we get rid of radmans bad deal.

Most importantly we get a no. 1 option at the end of games so we can stop playing flip murray.

Great deal

11/16/2009 12:03:08 PM

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Just to be clear tho, Jackson is not a good shooter...he only put up good numbers in Oakland because it was a volume offense

I would hope he takes less three's and long two's and instead we run the offense thru him and Boris, two of the best passing non-point guards in the league

This makes the PG position more about shooting and less about passing, so hopefully more DJ and less Felton

11/16/2009 12:11:36 PM

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He's a top 50 player in the league. It never hurts to add one of those.

11/16/2009 12:25:15 PM

Slave Famous
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thats debatable

11/16/2009 12:27:14 PM

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Quote :
"Ranks #41 in the NBA in Points Per Game (16.6)
Ranks #30 in the NBA in Assists Per Game (4.7)
Ranks #24 in the NBA in Steals Per Game (1.56)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Field Goals Made (56)
Ranks #40 in the NBA in Field Goal Attempts (133)
Ranks #33 in the NBA in Three-Point Field Goal Attempts (40)
Ranks #34 in the NBA in Assists (42)
Ranks #27 in the NBA in Steals (14)
Ranks #21 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes (21.31)
Ranks #42 in the NBA in Assists Per 48 Minutes (6.7)
Ranks #36 in the NBA in Steals Per 48 Minutes (2.24)
Ranks #48 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (23.9)
Ranks #29 in the NBA in Total Turnovers (26)
Ranks #24 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game (2.89)
Ranks #25 in the NBA in Turnovers Per 48 Minutes (4.17)"


not really debatable when he's top-50 in every major category

11/16/2009 12:28:03 PM

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He plays on the fastest paced team in the league

Per-game numbers are a useless comparison in his case

Per-possession and efficiency numbers tell a much different tale

11/16/2009 12:30:13 PM

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Name 50 players in the NBA who are better than him this season

or don't...i say he's a top-50 player...although he's in the 41-50 range

11/16/2009 12:33:25 PM

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Off the top of my head

Devin Harris
Chris Bosh
Turkoglu
Rondo
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Garnett
Iguadola
Arenas
Caron Butler

Jamison (Healthy)
Dwyane Wade
Joe Johnson
Josh Smith
Al Horford
Gerald Wallace
Boris Diaw
Dwight Howard
Vince Carter
Jameer Nelson

Danny Granger
Troy Murphy (Healthy)
Derrick Rose
Ben Gordon
Charlie Villanueva
Brandon Jennings
LeBron
Mo Williams
Al Jefferson
Brandon Roy

LaMarcus Aldridge
Carmelo
Chauncey
Nene
Kevin Durant
Jeff Green
Russell Westbrook
Deron Williams
Carlos Boozer

Rudy Gay
Chris Paul
David West
Dirk Nowitzki
Jason Terry
Shawn Marion
Josh Howard
Yao (Healthy)
Trevor Ariza
Tony Parker

Manu Ginobli
Tim Duncan
Monta Ellis
Kevin Martin
Jason Thompson
Kobe
Lamar Odom
Ron Artest
Andrew Bynum
Blake Griffin (Healthy)

Baron Davis
Chris Kaman
Steve Nash
Amare Stoudemire
Barbosa
Jason Richardson

11/16/2009 12:47:39 PM

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