^^^ not to mention that South Carolina has a stud basketball coach who will get them near the top of the league in no time
3/18/2013 12:00:27 PM
^I like our coaches too and think we will do good things under them.
3/18/2013 9:13:42 PM
^^ Not sure if you are serious about Frank Martin or not. Some people hate that dude and think he simply rode the coat tails of Huggins at K-State. I actually think Frank Martin is a pretty good coach and was a damn steal for USC. If Martin can turn USC into a winner, then he will have pulled off what Spurrier did with the football program.
3/18/2013 9:36:20 PM
Well after this week I am starting to think about who we should invite to our new Un-Super Conference.First off there is no doubt we have to have...NC StateSouth CarolinaUtah (haven't won a title in the Pac-12 yet)Then...Iowa State (last won the Big 8 in basketball in the mid-90s, last football title MVC co-champs 1912)Ole Miss (finally won a basketball title for the first time since 1982)Vanderbilt (outside of recent success in basketball not much else)Baylor (last title was 1994 SWC co-conference football championship)Minnesota (does their basketball title in the 90s even count in the record books?)Army (last won the CIC Trophy in 1996, currently on an 11 game losing streak to Navy in football)Next we can add whoever is the worst performing team in the Ivy LeagueThen add the worst performing HBCU schoolThen we can top it off with Idaho since they are a I-A independent in football who is currently 1-10, and got destroyed by FSU today.We can call ourselves the Little 12.The sad part is that if this league really did exist this season, we wouldn't be favored to win it in basketball, or football.
11/24/2013 2:31:24 AM
Lets take a look at the unsuper conference standings from a basketball point of view...NC State-Pretty much been walked all over on Tobacco Road and hasn't beat a ranked team all season. We also lost to NCCU.#15 Iowa State-6 wins vs ranked teams and beat Iowa and Northern Iowa.Ole Miss-17-11 (8-7) they have a win vs Mississippi StateVanderbilt-15-12 (7-8) They beat Missouri who beat NC State and have a win vs TennesseeBaylor-18-10 (6-9) They have a win over #3 KentuckyMinnesota-18-11 (7-9) wins vs #11 Ohio Sate, #9 Wisconsin, and #20 IowaArmy-13-15 (9-8) Lost to Air Force, beat Citadel, went 1-1 vs NavySouth Carolina-10-18 (3-12) Haven't beat a ranked team and lost to ClemsonUtah-18-9 (7-8) They beat BYUI guess that means the current standings are...1) Iowa State2) Minnesota3) Baylor4) Ole Miss5) Vanderbilt6) Utah7) NC State7) Army8) South CarolinaNC State is better than Army, but Army is tied in the standing with them because Army has a win vs Navy and a winning record in conference. At least they have that to brag about.[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 12:56 AM. Reason : .]
2/27/2014 12:50:13 AM
Dude, didn't Ole Miss win the SEC last season?Yep, Conference tournament champions1981, 2013Dude, didn't Vanderbilt win the SEC the season before last?Yep,Conference tournament champions1927, 1952, 2012[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 1:05 AM. Reason : ][Edited on February 27, 2014 at 1:05 AM. Reason : Also see you've acknowledged it 2 posts up, my bad]
2/27/2014 1:04:03 AM
^You're right, but when forming a conference you have to invite more than 3 teams. I'm pretty sure that you have to have 7+ teams for it to be considered a conference. Because of recent success I guess Ole Miss and Vanderbilt are the powerhouses of the league.
2/27/2014 1:20:51 AM
And when you toss in Idaho, Grambling State (3-20 and swept by Southern), and Columbia (went 0-10 in football) it looks like we actually move up in the standings.1) Iowa State2) Minnesota3) Baylor4) Ole Miss5) Vanderbilt6) Utah7) NC State8) Columbia 17-10 (6-4) beat Army and Idaho9) Army10) Idaho 12-16 (5-8) Lost to Boise State but beat Idaho State11) South Carolina12) Grambling State 3-20 (2-12)
2/27/2014 2:10:00 AM
I would also add making a BCS bowl or Final Four to a list of acceptable accomplishments.Utah did this in FB. Minnesota did it with Clem Haskins (though it got repealed I guess).Also certain ISU won a Big 12 title with Marcus Fizer/Larry Eustachy.Wait, nvm, you're going by some new stupid criteria now...[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 2:14 PM. Reason : I don't get what's being done now]
2/27/2014 2:13:06 PM
^Why isnt Tennessee on the list, have they won anything of note?
2/27/2014 2:28:25 PM
98 national title.
2/27/2014 3:07:01 PM
They won a couple of SEC titles and a National Championship in that time. I would think that was common knowledge?Oh wait, you still think that I'm some Tennessee fan whose nuts you ride or something. Do I have to send you my Facebook or something? Do you just not read the substance of my posts? I used to be Luigi. I've told you that like 3 times now. Why do you think I'm a Tennessee fan? Link to a post.[Edited on February 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM. Reason : E]
2/27/2014 3:08:00 PM
^^^^I agree, but losing in the final still equals no national title. Utah lost. The list is of schools who play in power conferences who have no titles in the power conferences since 1987.
2/27/2014 3:51:52 PM
I thought you'd moved past that and gone on to making up some fictitious loser conference in which we play against Grambling.Omg we are so bad let's move to the MEAC [Edited on February 27, 2014 at 4:18 PM. Reason : Also Baylor won the Big XII this year]
2/27/2014 4:16:30 PM
^yeah that is a fictitious conference and we're pretty much the only school that hasn't beat a ranked team, or our rival. Some have done worse though. [Edited on February 27, 2014 at 5:38 PM. Reason : .]
2/27/2014 5:37:28 PM
Just for fun...2013 Unsuper Conference Football Standings1) Baylor: Big 12 Champion2) South Carolina: 11-2 won a bowl and beat Clemson3) Ole Miss: 8-5 and won a bowl, lost to Mississippi State, but beat #6 LSU, and Vanderbilt4) Vanderbilt: 9-4 won a bowl, beat Tennessee, and #15 Georgia5) Minnesota: 8-5 Lost a bowl game to Syracuse6) Utah: 5-7 beat Utah State and BYU7) Iowa State: 3-9 Lost to Iowa and Northern Iowa, but won 2 conference games8) NC State: 3-9 and lost to WF, Duke, UNC, and ECU, 0-8 in the ACC9) Army: 3-9 Had 2 wins vs I-A teams, lost to Air force and to Navy for the 11th time in a row10) Idaho: 1-11 They got blown out in every game and didn't even play Boise State11) Grambling State: 1-11 and lost to rival Southern12) Columbia: 0-10 on the season
2/28/2014 1:37:53 AM
Iowa State alert
3/15/2014 8:53:23 PM
why's Ole Miss on the list? they won the SEC tournament last year....and the tournament champ is all that matters /sarsasm
3/15/2014 8:59:40 PM
oh you so sarsastic
3/15/2014 9:25:24 PM
^^It is in the ACC. Do you still not know that?
3/15/2014 10:00:52 PM
This is so sad as a NC State fan. Iowa State may not have won the regular season, but they can boast about winning their conference tournament.
3/16/2014 12:16:26 AM
The sadder thing is that it will be really sweet when we finally win that conference title, only for it to be a flash in the pan, like Wake or BC's ACC FB title .We'll promptly be back to being State.All that pent up frustration/heartbreak and yet our enjoyment will be all but a fleeting moment. I guess Phd students can relate to it[Edited on March 16, 2014 at 1:24 AM. Reason : ]
3/16/2014 1:22:38 AM
^^They have won three since the late 90s now. I wish we could do that.[Edited on March 16, 2014 at 12:50 PM. Reason : .]
3/16/2014 12:49:43 PM
^^Or just never even get that flash in the pan.I'll take a flash in the pan.
3/16/2014 3:17:31 PM
Mid Season Unsuper Conference Common Sense Misery RankingsUtah 16-3 (6-1) Ranked 11, beat rival BYU, beat #8 Wichita StateBaylor 15-5 (3-4) beat South Carolina and has wins over 2 ranked teams, is currently #20.Iowa State 15-4 (5-2)Lost to Baylor, beat rivals Iowa and Drake, Beat 4 ranked teams including Kansas, lost to South Carolina. Is ranked #15.Ole Miss 13-7 (4-3) Beat Cincinnati, #12 Creighton, #19 Arkansas, rival MSU, lost to Kentucky in OT.South Carolina 10-9 (1-6), beat Clemson, Beat Iowa State, Lost to Ole MissNC State 13-9 (4-5) They beat Duke and Wake Forest, but have flopped in all of their other big games.Army 14-6 (5-4) Beat Air Force and VMI, but lost to Navy. Beat Southern California.Columbia 9-7 (1-1) and have a 10 point loss to Kentucky.Minnesota 13-9 (2-7) Nothing stands outVanderbilt 11-9 (1-6) nothing awesome stands out on their schedule.Idaho 8-10 (3-4) Lost to Boise State, but beat Idaho State.Grambling State 2-15 (0-7) lost to rival SouthernSee it could be worse!
1/29/2015 10:37:50 PM
Wake Forest was a big game?
1/29/2015 11:40:53 PM
Lol wake ]
1/29/2015 11:57:22 PM
^Well at least we started 1-0 and beat another in state school.
1/29/2015 11:57:34 PM
Unsuper Conference Basketball Final StandingsIowa State (25-9, 12-6): Won some big games, beat some rivals, Big XII Tournament ChampionsUtah (26-9, 13-5): Beat #8 Wichita State, beat rival BYU, finished second in the Pac-12, lost in the Sweet 16NC State (22-14, 10-8): Won some big games, beat some rivals, lost in the Sweet 16Baylor (24-10, 11-7): Beat some rivals and ranked teams, lost in the NCAA Second RoundOle Miss (21-13,11-7): Split with South Carolina, beat some ranked teams, swept rival MSU, almost beat Kentucky, lost in the NCAA Second Round.Vanderbilt (21-14, 9-9): Finished 1-2 vs Tennessee, beat South Carolina and Ole Miss, lost in the NIT quarterfinalsSouth Carolina (17-16, 6-12): Beat Clemson, split with Ole Miss, lost in SEC QuarterfinalsMinnesota (18-15, 6-12): Winning at Michigan State in OT is their one achievementArmy (15-15, 6-12): Beat Air Force, beat VMI, went 0-3 vs Navy who handed them a season ending loss in the conference tournament first roundIdaho (13-17, 8-10): Split with Idaho StateColumbia (13-15, 5-9): Lost by 10 to KentuckyGrambling State (2-27, 0-18) Lost twice to rival Southern[Edited on March 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .]
3/28/2015 2:21:28 PM
Grambling State was 2-27? Guess it's more like Grumbling State then on account of all the fans grumbling about the poor results.
3/28/2015 3:18:58 PM
If Iowa State won their conference championship, shouldn't they be removed from this list?
3/28/2015 7:56:00 PM
no, because it's the regular season that matters, not the conference tournament
3/28/2015 8:44:08 PM
not in the ACC (in which Iowa State is not a team obviously)
3/28/2015 9:22:45 PM
Yeah Iowa State should be removed. They won a conference trophy. That is more than State has done in like 30 years.
3/28/2015 9:40:44 PM
Iowa State won the regular season in 2000 and 2001. Hell, the won the Big XII tourney LAST year as well as this year (as well as in 2000 and 1996). They shouldn't have been on the list in the first place.
3/28/2015 9:47:39 PM
^Well when forming this fictional unsuper conference I had to take into account football and basketball. Iowa State is the perfect football team for this league. Their list of football championships consists of...1911 Missouri Valley Conference Co-champions1912 Missouri Valley Conference Co-champions
3/29/2015 12:47:14 PM
this thread just got really confusing
3/29/2015 12:53:21 PM
I'd rather be consistently mediocre throughout than have long periods of being LastInACC and winning it once in 20 years.
3/29/2015 1:03:38 PM
^^Not really. My fictitious league is made up of teams that have achieved little to nothing in football, basketball, or both. I think the NCAA requires a minimum of 7 teams in a league to gain an automatic bid to NCAA tournaments. I started this thread in 2009. At that time NC State, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Ole Miss, DePaul (basketball), and Marquette (Basketball) were all in power conferences and Utah wasn't. Since then Marquette and DePaul have left the power conferences (Big East isn't the same), Utah joined a power conference, and Vanderbilt and Ole Miss have won a basketball title. We just need some of those schools still in there to have a league. [Edited on March 29, 2015 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]
3/29/2015 1:13:21 PM
it's confusing because Iowa State actually has achieved quite a bit since '09including two titles
3/29/2015 3:02:01 PM
and Baylor has a couple Big XII titles in football
3/29/2015 3:05:57 PM
doeren will solve this problem next year
3/29/2015 3:10:39 PM
damn. Art Briles makes $4.2M / yearall that for having never won a conference title
3/29/2015 3:17:51 PM
I mean fuck the abortion that is the new Big East but calling it a non-power Bball conference is borderline retarded..
3/29/2015 6:02:03 PM
It's definitely arguable, that conference lives off name alone as we've seen in the tournament
3/29/2015 6:43:42 PM
I don't think we're going to win a title in either sport next year, but this is the first time I can remember in the last 10 years being completely confident that we will make the postseason in both sports.I also think NJIT should be in the unsuper conference if you're willing to include schools with no football team. The men's team had a streak of 54 straight losses (longest by any school ever). This has been a pretty good season and they are in the CIT semi-final tonight, but nothing erases the losses from 2007-2009.[Edited on March 30, 2015 at 1:43 PM. Reason : -]
3/30/2015 1:35:47 PM
3/30/2015 8:34:14 PM
Found it.Where are we at on this. Can someone update
1/5/2016 12:47:32 PM
Utah won a national title in football.
1/5/2016 1:06:10 PM
NC StateDePaul South CarolinaSouth Florida
1/5/2016 1:09:21 PM