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1/10/2009 9:53:16 PM

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"In the video the cop clearly backs up to shoot, don't you need to get closer for the taser?"

Yeah, there were several people around Grant. He'd have needed to be as close as possible.

This shit wasn't an accident and I can't be convinced of otherwise.

1/11/2009 3:17:22 AM

yeah he def went from kneeling to standing while he was drawing the weapon......

1/11/2009 3:41:13 AM

uh, you will get shocked to if you are touching the person being zapped.

1/11/2009 11:27:34 AM

you might feel a little tingle if you're touching the guy, but you won't get shocked seriously

1/11/2009 1:13:42 PM

^^but he wasnt planning on shocking him or he would have grabbed his TASER

1/11/2009 1:45:47 PM

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"yeah he def went from kneeling to standing while he was drawing the weapon...... "

Probably because unholstering a weapon (lethal or otherwise) while in arms reach of the person you are trying to contain is generally a bad idea. Never mind the possibility they could grab your weapon, but there's also the risk of simply having your weapon knocked out of your grasp by a flailing limb. And assuming he was intending to draw his taser, the most likely plan of action was to cover with the taser while the other guys finish restraining him, which means standing up and back a bit was the best choice of action.

Again, I'm not saying the guy doesn't need to go to trial and jail, but it certainly seems more likely to me that he did not intend to kill this guy.

1/11/2009 9:57:15 PM

I believe that this shooting was most likely a negligent homicide. I would like to believe that this officer thought he was drawing his Taser, but his negligence in discharge is undeniable. I think the system of training police in usage of Tasers, pepper balls, rubber bullets, beanbags, and other "less-lethal" means of subduing subjects needs to come under scrutiny. These police were in a high-stress situation with the crowd being so rowdy, but when it all comes down to it there was a negligent death.

1/12/2009 12:58:54 AM

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"When times get rough niggers will be niggers i swear black people are like hogs, they are fine and dandy but let em off the leash a few days and they become full fledged niggers fuckin rioting and bulllshit makes me fuckin sick"

Oh, TWW

[Edited on January 12, 2009 at 1:40 AM. Reason : .]

1/12/2009 1:40:05 AM

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"Man, that cop needs to at LEAST fired, maybe even jail time. And none of that "paid administrative leave" bullshit. That's giving free money to him for doing something wrong."

1/12/2009 2:31:30 AM

How stupid would the cop have to be to think he was drawing his taser, since the taser is on the opposite side of the body than the hand gun to prevent situations like this.

1/12/2009 11:42:55 AM

^Not for them it isn't. They carry both strong side, even though it is thought to be a bad idea by most agencies. Hmm, I guess they were right.

1/12/2009 10:40:59 PM

^ Source?

1/13/2009 2:07:57 PM

^look at a picture? wont be that hard to tell if its strong side or not

1/13/2009 2:29:50 PM

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"I believe that this shooting was most likely a negligent homicide. I would like to believe that this officer thought he was drawing his Taser, but his negligence in discharge is undeniable. I think the system of training police in usage of Tasers, pepper balls, rubber bullets, beanbags, and other "less-lethal" means of subduing subjects needs to come under scrutiny. These police were in a high-stress situation with the crowd being so rowdy, but when it all comes down to it there was a negligent death."

My thoughts exactly.

1/13/2009 2:31:49 PM

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"A former transit police officer who allegedly shot dead an unarmed man on an Oakland train platform on New Year's Day was arrested Tuesday in Nevada, officials said. A Douglas County jail official said 27-year-old Johannes Mehserle was in custody under a fugitive warrant issued in California. The official would not give their name because the arrest had not been announced. Karen Boyd, a spokeswoman for Oakland Mayor Ron Dellums, confirmed the arrest and said the mayor's office had been informed of it Tuesday night. Alameda County District Attorney Tom Orloff is expected to announce details of the arrest Wednesday. There was no immediate word on what charges Mehserle faces."

http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/4308053/

1/14/2009 3:35:58 AM

nevada, eh

1/14/2009 3:50:51 AM

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"They carry both strong side, even though it is thought to be a bad idea by most agencies. Hmm, I guess they were right."

One of the original reasons that agencies carried strong side was weapon retention. It's a lot easier to cover your weapons if they're on one side, rather than on both sides. However, since drawing and firing is almost entirely muscle memory in a high stress situation, most agencies clearly felt that having both weapons on the same side would lead to negligent shootings. It seems the BART folks didn't get the memo.

1/14/2009 8:56:17 AM

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"A former transit police officer who allegedly shot dead an unarmed man on an Oakland train platform on New Year's Day was arrested Tuesday in Nevada, officials said."

About time. Now he can be found not guilty on all counts and the real riots can begin.

1/14/2009 10:05:15 AM

...charged with murder

1/14/2009 5:01:34 PM

New video shows a different officer punching Oscar Grant in the face

1/28/2009 7:04:40 PM

Wow

I believe in innocent until proven guilty But......

1/28/2009 7:42:41 PM

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"Wow I believe in innocent until proven guilty But...... "

1/28/2009 8:06:01 PM

^^^

1/28/2009 8:19:46 PM

just watched Fruitvale Station. pretty entertaining

4/25/2014 9:39:32 PM

No spoilers.

4/25/2014 11:13:54 PM

so, whatever happened with this case? was there another thread with the case and verdict?

4/25/2014 11:48:44 PM

^He is a cop. Just take a guess.

4/26/2014 9:42:22 AM

Cop was put on trial and convicted.

4/26/2014 11:13:30 AM

he got 11 months

(after credit for time served)

4/26/2014 11:53:29 AM