three

12/1/2008 1:49:01 PM

They should know when shits breaking down, they've had the equivalent of like 10 holocausts.

12/1/2008 2:59:49 PM

they're just bummed out their big socio-political experiment didn't turn out as well as ours did.

Jefferson >> Marx






[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2008 5:37:17 PM

Quote :

"He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong"

lol this was just hilarious, the south has all the hispanics? did he mean the southwest, and wouldnt that include texas?

and I mean the native americans conquering their own territory? I'd say at best they are prob like 5% of a state's population

also he just ignored blacks entirely

but I think we do need to chill the fuck out on immigration or we are going to lose some of our unity

12/1/2008 9:26:13 PM

Quote :

"I'd say at best they are prob like 5% of a state's population"

Nah, it's 8-9% for places like New Mexico and Oklahoma.

12/1/2008 9:48:24 PM

Quote :

"Nah, it's 8-9% for places like New Mexico and Oklahoma."

cause that makes a big difference

12/1/2008 10:04:27 PM

My apologies. I'll avoid posting accurate numbers in the future. Facts only debase the debate.

12/1/2008 10:31:36 PM

Quote :

"We're really all shocked that there's a Russian sober enough to write something."

This is foolish.

At least 50% of what I've posted on this site was written while I was far drunker than the average Russian/Irishman/pirate.

12/2/2008 2:58:44 AM

^ yeah, but, PM's to evan and DNL don't count.



[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 3:20 AM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 3:19:55 AM

Quote :

"they're just bummed out their big socio-political experiment didn't turn out as well as ours did. Jefferson >> Marx"

To be fair, their experiment wasn't marxist, it was leninist. sure his ideas came from marx, but your claim would be similar to calling Paulson [adam]Smith or Bush Regan.

12/2/2008 9:18:03 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

New article on WSJ. Nothing really new, but had a nice map of what the US will look like next year. Can't wait, we will be part of the EU.

12/30/2008 8:25:02 AM

he's a gotdamn fool if thinks SC is going to go along with a bunch of northeastern states.

12/30/2008 12:21:38 PM

I really like the whole "spheres of influence" part. California alone has one of the top ten economies in the world. Texas alone has a GDP just a little below that of Mexico; combined with the rest of the "Texas Republic," it would be substantially richer, and despite having a population of gun-wielding white patriots, it is subservient to Mexico.

Uh-huh.

Of course, this brings up the question of why Alabama and Florida are under Texan control. If Texas was going to become independent, do you really think it would want to dramatically increase the number of blacks and Jews in its territory?

South Carolina and Tennessee in the same group Massachusetts and New Jersey? OK, sure, if you say so, pal.

Pretty much the only thing on that map I see as being remotely accurate is Hawaii. Even Alaska going back to the Russians is a bit silly. Russia can barely handle Chechnya, which could get lost about 100 times in Alaska's vastness. And while the Chechens have religious fanaticism on their side, Alaska has...religious fanaticism. Also guns and helicopters that could be re-tooled from being anti-moose weapons to being anti-Russian weapons.

12/30/2008 3:16:05 PM

you know what this is?

this is a clear case of penis-envy, on a geopolitical scale.

look at a map of the USSR circa 1988, and a map of Russia today. they still haven't gotten over their own implosion

What Ivan cant seem to understand is the difference of the Soviet empire attempting to extend control over previously autonomous nations, and the United States which (despite all the 9th and 10th Amendment rhetoric) is less a republic of independent states and more a federation of largely homogeneous regional jurisdictions.

the differences between US States is superficial. Because for all their percieved differences, South Carolinians and Bostonians are far more alike than are, say, Armenians and Ukranians.



[Edited on December 30, 2008 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ]

12/30/2008 3:41:38 PM

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

this guy

hahahahahahahahahahaah

12/30/2008 4:24:31 PM

It might be something like this: Americans are free to be different, so we conform. The former soviet states were forced under threat of death to conform, so they are different.

12/30/2008 4:44:30 PM

Since some of you dummies didn't get this before, I'll help. Nikita Khrushchev--another blowhard Russian--also predicted the demise of the United States. This was in the 1960s, and the United States is still going--but the USSR?

[Edited on January 2, 2009 at 6:09 PM. Reason : It is finished. ]

1/2/2009 6:08:49 PM

yeah.

i think we're all agreed, here.

you can put down your shoe.

1/2/2009 6:22:15 PM

if anything happens, it will prob be california being ceded to mexico, all the politicians doing nothing about the borders there are basically letting mexico reverse the mexican-american war

1/2/2009 10:20:32 PM

i'll go with what fallout 3 shows.

russia and china invading the US.

1/2/2009 10:36:23 PM

^^ where do you people come from?

1/3/2009 2:03:32 AM

b/c california will so go for chinese repression of civil liberties....

1/3/2009 2:04:45 AM

IN SOVIET CALIFORNIA, CIVIL LIBERTIES OPPRESS YOU

1/3/2009 2:38:25 AM

^^^check out the population projections then

1/3/2009 2:50:52 AM

Doubt US will ever break up, but famine and poverty on huge scale could occur. Problem is that unlike most of the world, in US nobody flat out owns anything of value.

In Europe and especially Asia/Africa people are relatively immune to credit crisis simply because they either own their car/house/cattle, don't have credit cards and definitely don't depend on transportation as heavily as Americans do.

Schools and grocery stores are far away. Aside big metropolitan areas public transportation is mediocre at best and not developed enough to handle $12/gallon crisis.

Story of US being divided is nonsense though...

1/3/2009 12:51:43 PM

Don't know if this is the same thing, but its interesting that they've moved up the collapse to next year.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96N3GCG0&show_article=1

Quote :

"Russian scholar says US will collapse _ next year Mar 4 03:13 AM US/Eastern By MIKE ECKEL MOSCOW (AP) - If you're inclined to believe Igor Panarin, and the Kremlin wouldn't mind if you did, then President Barack Obama will order martial law this year, the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order. Panarin might be easy to ignore but for the fact that he is a dean at the Foreign Ministry's school for future diplomats and a regular on Russia's state-guided TV channels. And his predictions fit into the anti-American story line of the Kremlin leadership. "There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010," Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy—a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend. The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia's Federal Space Agency and reportedly an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the U.S. that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin. Putin, the former president who is now prime minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany's Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crisis that has pounded the Russian economy. Panarin didn't give many specifics on what underlies his analysis, mostly citing newspapers, magazines and other open sources. He also noted he had been predicting the demise of the world's wealthiest country for more than a decade now. But he said the recent economic turmoil in the U.S. and other "social and cultural phenomena" led him to nail down a specific timeframe for "The End"—when the United States will break up into six autonomous regions and Alaska will revert to Russian control. Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men. Turning to economic woes, he cited the slide in major stock indexes, the decline in U.S. gross domestic product and Washington's bailout of banking giant Citigroup as evidence that American dominance of global markets has collapsed. "I was there recently and things are far from good," he said. "What's happened is the collapse of the American dream." Panarin insisted he didn't wish for a U.S. collapse, but he predicted Russia and China would emerge from the economic turmoil stronger and said the two nations should work together, even to create a new currency to replace the U.S. dollar. Asked for comment on how the Foreign Ministry views Panarin's theories, a spokesman said all questions had to be submitted in writing and no answers were likely before Wednesday. It wasn't clear how persuasive the 20-minute lecture was. One instructor asked Panarin whether his predictions more accurately describe Russia, which is undergoing its worst economic crisis in a decade as well as a demographic collapse that has led some scholars to predict the country's demise. Panarin dismissed that idea: "The collapse of Russia will not occur." But Alexei Malashenko, a scholar-in-residence at the Carnegie Moscow Center who did not attend the lecture, sided with the skeptical instructor, saying Russia is the country that is on the verge of disintegration. "I can't imagine at all how the United States could ever fall apart," Malashenko told the AP. "

3/4/2009 6:44:58 PM

Quote :

"Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men."

There are so many fallacies in that reasoning I'd rather not even bother tearing it down. This guy is completely out of touch with American culture... a fact that makes sense, given that he is a Russian living in Russia.

3/4/2009 6:56:55 PM

Quote :

"Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men."

JESUS CHRIST WHAT HAVE WE DONE????!!?!?!




:carlface:

3/4/2009 7:02:16 PM

what about gay women?

3/4/2009 7:02:53 PM

^^

i guess the Beslan School thing doesn't count

[Edited on March 4, 2009 at 7:41 PM. Reason : since those were terrarists!]

3/4/2009 7:38:49 PM

Quote :

"rump-states"

Crispus says,

THE STATE OF TEH RUMP IS BLACKTASTIC

3/4/2009 10:46:07 PM

Wait, maybe gay men and prisons are related somehow...

3/4/2009 10:50:37 PM

Russia and China are more likely to collapse than the United States in the next year (barring apocalyptic scenarios like full-scale nuclear war, zombies, the book of Revelations, and alien invasions), and all three nations would have a very low chance of collapsing in general.

Quote :

"Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men."

We haven't had any of our provinces try and declare independence back in the 1990s. I would say that having your own territories trying to break away is a greater sign of the upcoming disintegration of a nation-state than something as ambiguous as "moral decline". That, and Russia is close to us in terms of school shooting fatalities, % of population imprisoned, and gay men.

3/5/2009 2:26:25 PM

This guy must think Iran is the most stable country in the world since there are no gay men there.

3/5/2009 2:28:48 PM

^^Pretty much spot on.

China has been dealing with independence movements for a while. Major ones, too, not like our own halfhearted, piddling issues with Puerto Rico. Russia hasn't managed to quash a rebellion in a relatively minuscule part of its country in two decades. And "moral decline"? Jesus Christ, the Russian mafia is known to the entire world as a brutal, decadent, abhorrent manifestation of the worst humanity has to offer. At least people in the Congo hack each other up for ideological or revenge-related purposes.

3/6/2009 2:27:46 AM

4/12/2009 10:54:45 AM