Fox News probably does seem pretty heavily biased when you're dumb enough to think DailyKos and huffingtonpost aren't biased

10/16/2008 12:18:55 PM

we acknowledge the slant of DailyKos and Huffington Post.

10/16/2008 12:20:00 PM

don't be so obtuse

10/16/2008 12:21:47 PM

^^^ the difference is fox news is the #1 news program. Their bias actually can cause problems (see Iraq war).

10/16/2008 12:46:40 PM

how exactly did Fox News cause problems with the Iraq War??

10/16/2008 1:33:08 PM

the only person being obtuse is you.

10/16/2008 1:34:45 PM

you don't think it's a problem that a majority of Fox News viewers continue to believe that 1) we found WMDs in Iraq, and 2) Saddam Hussein was linked to 9/11?
The amount of Fox News viewers who believe these falsehoods are much higher than any other network or news source

10/16/2008 1:35:16 PM

^^you're wrong as usual

and please try to stay focused on the thread topic, which is Fox News, instead of shitting all over the thread like you normally do

^and? how did they "cause problems" with the "Iraq War"? how did a tv station directly impact the Iraq War?

I mean CNN and other liberal stations continuously aired how we had lost the war and victory was impossible, but I don't think those things directly had an effect on the war either


[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM. Reason : please ignore nutsmackr the troll]

10/16/2008 1:35:21 PM

I responded directly to the thread. You stated that people who call fox news biased, don't see the bias in DailyKos and the Huffingtonpost, I stated that we acknowledge the slant of those organizations. Then, you called me obtuse.

Quit being obtuse.

10/16/2008 1:36:50 PM

Until the huffingtonpost has its own network television programming, our country is imbalanced.

10/16/2008 1:41:19 PM

they do, its called comedy central, cnn, msnbc, etc

[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM. Reason : .]

10/16/2008 1:42:10 PM

In fairness, MSNBC is slanted to the left just like Fox is slanted to the Right. I don't believe it is slanted as far to the left as Fox is slanted to the Right, and MSNBC for awhile there was attempting to be FoxNews lite, it has only gone left int he past two years or so.

10/16/2008 1:42:59 PM

Is it true that Sean Hannity has a dating website?

10/16/2008 1:53:38 PM

10/16/2008 2:00:53 PM

It isn't a big deal that the news outlets are slanted. It is a big deal that none of them will do any of their own journalism. Both sides are nothing more than hype machines and lagging indicators of whatever happens to be going on at the time. It is sad that Fox News doesn't do anything at any point in time to lay the facts bare about the real affiliation of Obama with Ayers, rather, they just echo what the campaign is saying at the rally speeches and then has their good looking dead behind the eyes commentators argue back and forth about pointless shit. Both sides engage in shoddy reporting and generally do a disservice to this country. I can only fathom that none of them want to do any real heavy reporting against either party/candidate because they'll get cut off from access to the officials once they get in office. That's the real disservice.

Why whine about any outlet being slanted, the people that tune into Fox News already have politics that align with FNC, same for CNN/CNBC, etc. I'd like to see a MSM organization operating similar to factcheck.org. If they could do it in a fashion that wasn't complete boring, I think they could survive.

10/16/2008 2:20:01 PM

It's a sad fact, but people overwhelmingly prefer things that reinforce their own preexisting beliefs and conclusions. True facts that do not support one's existing concept of reality are often ignored regardless of their validity. The resulting cognitive dissonance when the new facts are not ignored can often serve to cause a defensive reinforcement of the existing beliefs and creation of a delusional state in which the facts can be explained away.

This means that if you disagree with Fox News and think they're making things up or slanting them, it doesn't really matter. If they showed things in a way which you 100% agreed with then those who no longer agreed with them would:

1) Turn to other even more agenda driven online news sources.
2) Delude themselves in order to protect their version of reality.

The same goes for networks like CNN and MSNC et al. The only effect of forcing everyone to watch your version of reality (true or not) would be either to force them into delusional states where they would explain away the new information or to force them to seek out information they did agree with. The only way around this is to ensure that all information sources agree and are unbiased- which would require some orwellian nightmare that is far worse than "The Nation" magazine or Fox News.

Here's a study showing how this works:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080924-does-ideology-trump-facts-studies-say-it-often-does.html

Really cool stuff. Ghost in the Shell fans might recognize some of the ideas here too.

Quote :

"if anything, challenging misbelief with fact checking has the counterintuitive effect of reinforcing that misbelief. "

[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 9:49 PM. Reason : ]

10/16/2008 9:45:38 PM

^good post

10/17/2008 12:25:56 AM

10/19/2008 11:34:06 PM

There was another Jab by Obama about Fox News at that convention he was at with John McCain over the weekend.

10/19/2008 11:49:56 PM

Quote :

"The screwball animated sitcom 'Family Guy' is no stranger to controversy, but when the show weighed in on the presidential race with a little Nazi twist -- did it go too far?"

10/20/2008 12:49:43 PM

10/20/2008 2:28:52 PM

Rachel Maddow's apparently kicking ass right now

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/arts/television/21madd.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Quote :

"“I’m pinching myself,” said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC, who used to caution that it “takes two or three years for a show to find its audience.” That was certainly true for Keith Olbermann, whose five-year-old “Countdown” program at 8 p.m. (which leads into Ms. Maddow’s program) now beats CNN in the 25-to-54-year-old demographic segment every evening. "

10/21/2008 11:09:44 AM

wolf blitzer is the most professional and non biased journalist on television that i know of
also brit hume is not bad as a conservative journalist

10/22/2008 12:30:29 PM

i like cavuto

10/22/2008 12:35:36 PM

i like blitzer, hume sometimes, and cavuto

10/22/2008 2:39:32 PM

^ you like cavuto?

10/22/2008 2:43:03 PM

why wouldnt i?

10/22/2008 2:46:33 PM

hes pretty biased IMO

10/22/2008 2:49:12 PM

i disagree

10/22/2008 2:50:23 PM

hes overtly conservative when liberals are on his show though

10/22/2008 2:53:01 PM

Fox News is trying to say that the recent stock drop is because Obama is leading in the polls.

10/23/2008 4:13:09 PM

really? what exactly did they say about it?

to be fair i have heard something a long time ago that when democrats are leading or about to win in november that the market tanks a little bit, but i don't know if there is any truth to that .

10/23/2008 4:44:03 PM

I think the point FNC was trying to make was that the Democrats wanted to let the economy suffer to show the voters that McCain/Republicans can not lead this nation to a turnaround.

I saw that this morning and then CNN had a bit on it as well.

It's just dirty politics if you ask me.

10/23/2008 5:08:04 PM

Well, seeing as how the stock market has been dropping for over a year since before anyone even knew who the candidate would be, it's a pretty ridiculous claim.

10/23/2008 9:09:50 PM

I think fluctuations in T-bonds and other future indicators would be a better indicator of how the investors/market feels about the frontrunner

10/23/2008 9:23:34 PM

Quote :

"Well, seeing as how the stock market has been dropping for over a year since before anyone even knew who the candidate would be, it's a pretty ridiculous claim."

10/23/2008 10:17:55 PM

Was Letterman on O'Reilly...how was it?

10/23/2008 11:48:44 PM

FOX NEWS OFFICIALLY AT WAR WITH THE NEW YORK TIMES

10/23/2008 11:49:36 PM

murdoch is a loon

10/23/2008 11:50:32 PM

^^ oh noes. should i sit under the desk with a textbook on my head?

10/24/2008 1:53:20 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SFu7NUekwM

This bitch, needs a cock in her mouth.

Man, just wow. wow. I can't believe people watch this channel.

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 4:33 AM. Reason : s]

10/29/2008 4:31:38 AM

Quote :

"Fox News is biased. But they aren't as biased as CNN and MSNBC are."

You sir are an idiot.

10/29/2008 4:43:36 AM

Stupid Bitch: "I don't appreciate the sarcasm, Bill."

Obama Guy: "I know you don't, Megan."

LOL

10/29/2008 9:34:58 AM

I can watch her on mute, she's pretty hot.

10/29/2008 10:06:15 AM

Quote :

"Stupid Bitch: "I don't appreciate the sarcasm, Bill." Obama Guy: "I know you don't, Megan." LOL "

10/29/2008 10:15:23 AM

Tuesday, Oct 28
October Ratings - Fox News #2 in All of Basic Cable

Quote :

"Fox News was the #2 cable network in prime time basic cable during the month of October. This marks the 82nd month in a row that FNC has led all cable news channels in total day and prime time viewership. The network's top show, The O'Reilly Factor, averaged 4 million viewers a night marking 95 consecutive months at #1 (since December 2000.)"

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/on/october_ratings_fox_news_2_in_all_of_basic_cable_98871.asp?c=rss

LOL!

10/29/2008 10:38:37 AM

If I voted for Bush or were planning on voting for McCain, I would watch Fox News exclusively.

It's the only way I could live with myself knowing what I've done.

10/29/2008 10:41:02 AM

FAUX NEWS!!!1

THEY'RE NUMBER ONE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STUPID RACISTS AND CAN'T SEE THE GLORY OF THE OBAMA, THE ONE!!!1

10/29/2008 10:44:01 AM

I hope everyone is fine with having peace and prosperity a few years from now.

10/29/2008 10:54:07 AM

ALL THE WORLDS PROBLEMS ARE PERPETUATED BY THE LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS

oh wait

10/29/2008 10:55:33 AM