dogs are forever in the push up position

3/20/2008 10:08:58 AM

Treetwista spits out such senseless garbage, it's become annoying to have to respond to. It's like teaching math to a retarded 7-year old.

3/20/2008 10:09:27 AM

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"I've worked for anti-war candidates campaigns... even when our opposition to the war was practically the ONLY ideal we held in common I've written letters and signed petitions I've marched in the streets I've spoken out against the war in my daily life what have you done, Mr. Righteous?"

I don't think there was anything condescending about my post. Read my subsequent post a few lines down, I gave terpball the benefit of the doubt and then supported his right to do what he did even though I didn't agree with his candidate.

Ending the war now isn't a priority for me. Because of my background, which I'm not going to go into on TWW, I see it in too complex a light to take the stance most anti-war protestors take.

I still remain politically active on causes I do belive in.

I'm just a fan of an educated and involved electorate. What is unduly "righteous" about that?

3/20/2008 10:17:05 AM

Look I understand that some of your family is or was in the military. Probably was.

And you probably wrongly assume that I oppose war. I am not a pacifist. I fully support the war in Afghanistan which we are fucking up by overextending ourselves in Iraq. We should be fucking dominating Afghanistan to set an example in the region.

The Iraq War is bullshit.

3/20/2008 10:20:11 AM

so damned glad that I wasn't at work in DC during this whole thing

3/20/2008 10:23:10 AM

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"I've worked for anti-war candidates campaigns... even when our opposition to the war was practically the ONLY ideal we held in common I've written letters and signed petitions I've marched in the streets I've spoken out against the war in my daily life"

and what exactly difference has all that made? precisely none

also i wish terpball could actually address a point he disagreed with instead of saying "treetwista is such an idiot"

like i said this shit mightve been cool in high school when you were too young and dumb to realize the futility...but now it just shows you're a moron

i bet you guys had good time standing in the rain and saying "yeah fuck bush fuck america"...too bad nobody cared but you

3/20/2008 10:23:23 AM

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"and what exactly difference has all that made? precisely none"

so according to you democracy has failed?

that is what you're saying, right?

3/20/2008 10:25:58 AM

wow you're smart enough to come up with a strawman, congratulations

3/20/2008 10:26:50 AM

exactly what part of what you did was strictly democracy?

you can protest under other governments too you know

3/20/2008 10:27:24 AM

twista's idea of political activism involves:

(1) not voting
(2) doing bong hits
(3) being aggressively ignorant on the internets.

keep doing what you're doing, terp. im glad you were there.

3/20/2008 10:29:41 AM

^^^ there is nothing straw man about that. A republican government requires an active polity. Dictatorships and despots rest on a populace who is content to seek their own personal short term interests at the expense of their long term liberty.

3/20/2008 10:30:09 AM

It seems the Treetwista is intimidated by me for some reason. I didn't so much actively protest, more went and took pictures with the protest, and actively supported the people blockading the intersection. It was my choice. If you don't like it, fuck off.





Yet this Treetwista toolbag comes out to write paragraphs about how what I did made no difference.

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"people have been protesting the iraq war for what, 5 years? and its still going on...that would lead me to believe that these protests are pretty much meaningless also why can't you do it out of main traffic thoroughfares? I'm sure some of the people who y'all delayed and got caught in traffic are also anti-war...but you don't see them standing in the middle of the street acting like they're so important hopefully you tried to bag some slutty pothead chick and take her home to bwn cause if you didnt it was a complete waste of time just like all the other iraq war protests that have no direct effect on what the US does in Iraq its not like this protest was needed to make the govt aware of the people's dislike of the war...therefore it was pointless btw looks like the protest was mostly made up of "white America as a whole" "

Why do you really give a shit about what I do? Why do you follow me around every thread criticizing every stance I have on every issue? What are you so afraid of? Or are you just a little bitch with nothing else to do? Perhaps you feel like you don't matter in the real world, so you're trying extra hard on TWW? Go get a life you fucking loser.

3/20/2008 10:34:36 AM

because freedom of speech=democracy


nothing has failed here. you took part in your right to free speech, and nobody did shit about it, or even knew of the protest on a national level. not hating or anything thats just how it goes. thats why i see it as a waste of time.

(although if it was happening around the corner id go check it out too)

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2008 10:34:43 AM

gg terpball for defending your free speech with this march. my 5 family members(cousins/uncles/brothers) that currently serve this in the armed forces overseas for this nation would look you point blank in the eye and say they are fighting for people like you so that you can do this. so it's all good. if you want to send them home, and make them feel as if they aren't accomplishing anything feel free to do so


keep up your march, b/c i'll be supporting their march against the powers of baghdad/ baidoa/ kabul/ tehran and anybody else who wants to take away YOUR right to march.

3/20/2008 10:36:11 AM

its an obvious strawman because i said nothing at all about "democracy being a failure"

i said their trite and petty protests havent done jack shit which they havent

and terpball is a toolbag for making a thread about this gay ass shit

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"thats why i see it as a waste of time."

me too, but pointing out the obvious pisses off someone like terpball...he doesnt give a shit that the protest is a waste of time...he just doesnt want anyone else to dare point out that the protest is a waste of time, because that would be saying something negative about him and oh no you better not do that! he'll call you an idiot, he really will!

3/20/2008 10:36:41 AM

its a core tenet of American democracy

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic

^^ couldn't we just fight them on the day they actually COME to take away my right to March? why all the belligerence?

^ well if the government does not represent the will of the people then democracy must not be working, right?


[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM. Reason : -]

3/20/2008 10:37:00 AM

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"the day they actually COME to take away my right to March?"

oh like france right? hmm.

3/20/2008 10:39:38 AM

lol^^

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM. Reason : ....]

3/20/2008 10:39:47 AM

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"or even knew of the protest on a national level. not hating or anything thats just how it goes. thats why i see it as a waste of time. "

Well, it is in newspapers across not only the country, but the world. It was on CNN and BBC, and I'm sure other international news outlets.

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : ]

3/20/2008 10:40:35 AM

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST

YOU JUST DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST OUR PROTEST IN THIS THREAD

3/20/2008 10:41:40 AM

^^ yes, like France

or maybe Finland

^you AREN'T protesting my protest, you're protesting my RIGHT to protest
you've also described my politics as "gay shit" in this thread so I'm pretty sure you've lost the moral high ground


[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:42 AM. Reason : -]

3/20/2008 10:41:40 AM

yeah after people blocked intersections and created problems for the city

im talking about beforehand

3/20/2008 10:41:47 AM

^^^^ and the 3 downed apache helicopters in the original strike on baghdad were all over the news too


that doesn't mean we were losing the effort at all. news outlets thrive on delusioning people to get viewers.

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:42 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2008 10:42:12 AM

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"even knew of the protest on a national level."

i heard about it on nbc news last night (along with several other protests in other cities), so it did get some national attention.

they didn't mention anything about blocking traffic.

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM. Reason : d]

3/20/2008 10:43:25 AM

some of the same people at the protest foolishly thinking their protest will stop the war or US troop occupation in Iraq are probably the same geniuses that thought they had a legitimate chance of impeaching Bush or Cheney over the last few years when the same delusional left wingers think they have the power to make a difference in this corrupt ass political system...get a fucking clue

3/20/2008 10:43:38 AM

didn't any of you guys here the clip they played last night on the news where some guy recorded obama about 6 months ago saying...


"me and bush's views on handling the war are honestly not that much different"

if any of you guys honestly believes hillary or obama are gonna tuck tail and run and let iran invade iraq you are out of your minds. b/c that's the day oil jumps to $200 a barrell.

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2008 10:45:24 AM

Obama said he's going to listen to the commanders/general/whatever the fuck on the ground as he withdraws droops. He also said Hillary would be an idiot if she didn't do the same. I am aware of this, and I agree with that policy.

3/20/2008 10:46:53 AM

I don't support them either

3/20/2008 10:46:59 AM

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"Obama said he's going to listen to the commanders/general/whatever the fuck on the ground as he withdraws droops. He also said Hillary would be an idiot if she didn't do the same. I am aware of this, and I agree with that policy."

ok. cool.

b/c this whole rant about "the war will be over in 60 days" is nothing but a vote grabber from the uneducated ppl that don' know the war has been over. it's cleanup phase right now

i hope that^ right there doesn't lose him the election. it probably will

3/20/2008 10:48:47 AM

I doubt it

3/20/2008 10:50:02 AM

he needs to start praising individual rights more a little i think

this whole 'diversity' thing is great, but what about guys like us who earn a nice wage but are going to be paying for all these great plans they have for the poor?

what about us?

3/20/2008 10:51:05 AM

What about the babies being born into poverty and aren't getting a fair chance at life? What about them?

You're doing fine, obviously - and it isn't going to cost you any more after the gov't shifts some priorities around

3/20/2008 10:53:30 AM

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" babies being born into poverty"

oh like me?

i'm glad i had common sense then i guess.

3/20/2008 10:55:18 AM

i just ate something crunchy

3/20/2008 10:56:11 AM

^^It seems like you're lacking it today

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason : ]

3/20/2008 10:56:51 AM

yeh, kids that grow up in orphanages aren't supposed to graduate from college and get good jobs or have common sense

3/20/2008 11:01:07 AM

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"orphanages"

funded by what?

3/20/2008 11:02:40 AM

a church

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 11:04 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2008 11:03:40 AM

fuck a church

3/20/2008 11:05:06 AM

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"TreeTwista10 spits out such senseless garbage, it's become annoying to have to respond to. It's like teaching math to a retarded 7-year old"

I couldn't agree more (is he trolling?!? is he really that dumb?!?)


TreeTwista10:

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"people have been protesting the iraq war for what, 5 years? and its still going on...that would lead me to believe that these protests are pretty much meaningless"

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"its not like this protest was needed to make the govt aware of the people's dislike of the war...therefore it was pointless"

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"and what exactly difference has all that made? precisely none"

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"their trite and petty protests havent done jack shit"

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"this protest is a waste of time"

just keep fooling yourself twista (IF YOU SAY IT ENOUGH TIMES IT BECOMES TRUE!!!!!1 )

your general anti-protest attitude is nothing short of unamerican (for once, an accurate use of that term)

perhaps rather than protest, you prefer the mcveigh-rudolph-kazinsky approach to advancing change




[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 11:09 AM. Reason : T]

3/20/2008 11:07:45 AM

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"a church"

given tax breaks from the Federal and Local Governements - so there you have it, even the kids in the orphanage got a benefit of the tax payer's dollars so they could get a decent chance at life.

Thanks, that was an excellent situation to prove my point.

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"perhaps rather than protest, you prefer the mcveigh-rudolph-kazinsky approach to advancing change"

Hot damn - good point!!


[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM. Reason : ]

3/20/2008 11:09:30 AM

^^hahahaha thats fucking hilarious...i point out that after 5 years of protests the war is going on...after protesting about trying to impeach bush and cheney, they're still in office...I REALIZE that your little grass roots campaigns and protests dont mean shit...but I'M THE ONE who's fooling myself? hahahahahahahhahahaha

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"perhaps rather than protest, you prefer the mcveigh-rudolph-kazinsky approach to advancing change"

perhaps i dont give a fuck about impeaching anyone or ending a war...i've got more important shit to take care of aside from standing in the rain with a bunch of ignorant hippies with ideals too big for society's britches...but please...act like its ME who is fooling myself...thats a good one!

i'm sorry you're so gullible that you actually believe your dime a dozen protests are making a difference in policy in this country!

3/20/2008 11:11:26 AM

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"i'm sorry you're so gullible that you actually believe your dime a dozen protests are making a difference in policy in this country!"

The ignorance is astounding

Just think about how fucked up the world would be if we DIDN't speak our minds and demonstrate in one way or another. What if Bush and Cheney thought the American people actually supported the war! More dead, more money, more turmoil, more hatred toward America.

3/20/2008 11:18:12 AM

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"Just think about how fucked up the world would be if we DIDN't speak our minds and demonstrate in one way or another."

exactly as fucked up as it currently is

Bush and Cheney have known for at LEAST 3-4 years that (much of) America didn't support the war

so how have any of the protests in the last 3-4 years changed anything? We're still in Iraq killing innocent Iraqi civilians every day...there are already more dead and theres more hatred to America

SO I'LL ASK AGAIN

what good have any of your protests done except to make you personally feel like you were important?

3/20/2008 11:23:44 AM

I hope you get no-knock warranted

3/20/2008 11:24:35 AM

TreeTwista10: what do you have to say about China and Tibet?

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"what good have any of your protests done except to make you personally feel like you were important?"

women's rights, equal rights for minorities, stupid things like that...I'm sure there's no REAL benefit

3/20/2008 11:25:57 AM

^^well Snewf you have always been a proponent of unjust police tactics and judicial processes

^I don't really care about China and Tibet

I'm talking about modern day war protests

protests a few decades back used to be people who cared to make a difference...not these days...not these protests...dont confuse what i'm saying with me supposedly not wanting equal rights for women, minorities, etc...i'm specifically talking about protests in america in the last 5 years, specifically pertaining to the iraq war and trying to impeach bush and cheney

[Edited on March 20, 2008 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .]

3/20/2008 11:26:14 AM

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"^I don't really care about them honestly"

it's a good thing you are isolated in your opinion
they remind me of america's fight for independence
or taiwan's continuing struggle

3/20/2008 11:28:57 AM

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"exactly as fucked up as it currently is "

What the fuck makes you think anyone would believe this shit!!!

IDIOT

3/20/2008 11:29:33 AM

bunch of fags were blocking the streets in chapel hill yesterday


i almost "slipped" off the clutch and brake pedals at the same time.

3/20/2008 11:29:49 AM