i like how they kind of made it look like ceasar and octavian had just got done fucking after ceasar had his seizure, the woman just saw ceasar and octavian come out of the room after hearing ceasar moaning and groaning from inside the room. funny stuff

9/19/2005 11:32:03 PM

a lot of roman emperors had sex with boys

9/20/2005 1:58:03 AM

My Latin teacher in high school said that it was a believed by some that Caesar lost his virginity to some king.

9/20/2005 10:40:24 PM

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"Things change. Life is water, not stone."

-Mark Antony

9/20/2005 11:17:06 PM

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"I dont know what the fuck im doing"

-George Bush



[Edited on September 20, 2005 at 11:24 PM. Reason : dfg]

9/20/2005 11:24:18 PM

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"i like how they kind of made it look like ceasar and octavian had just got done fucking after ceasar had his seizure, the woman just saw ceasar and octavian come out of the room after hearing ceasar moaning and groaning from inside the room."

I don't think that's the angle they were going for - rather that Caesar's secret was going to become a rumor

9/21/2005 11:20:37 AM

Actually I think that's exactly what they were going for. On the preview for this week there was a scene where Atia was implying that Octavian had seduced "him". It didn't say who "him" was in that clip, but from what we've seen thus far, I think its safe to assume that the cook told her she heard him in the pantry with Ceasar.

9/21/2005 12:02:32 PM

its cool, cause her son is a fag anyways.

9/21/2005 1:04:01 PM

yea if that's the angle they're going for then that doesn't sound like much of a conflict - everyone knows he's gay anyway so why care that he's gettin it on with Caesar?

9/21/2005 1:05:50 PM

you just answered your own question

9/21/2005 1:08:51 PM

no i didn't

the editing of that slave scene made it clear that its not good that she overheard them

if its about gayness then i can't see why its not good that she overheard them

9/21/2005 1:31:27 PM

Octavian was Caesar's adoptive son in actual history, wasn't he?

I know he was the first emperor.

9/21/2005 1:36:02 PM

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"everyone knows he's gay anyway so why care that he's gettin it on with Caesar? "

because Caesar's not gay?

9/21/2005 1:39:27 PM

its no big deal back then if caesar was gay or not - and even if he wasn't gay it still wasn't a big deal for him to be getting it on with young men

9/21/2005 2:08:03 PM

because it was no big deal, it was harumphed off by the passer-by maid. epilepsy is a big deal. better the passer by think is gayness than epilepsy.

that was the intention of the way the plot unfolded. do you get it now?

9/21/2005 2:47:15 PM

YES I KNOW

what i'm saying is that it is bad editing to edit the servant scene as though its a BAD THING for her to have overheard it and think that its gay sexing

[Edited on September 21, 2005 at 3:31 PM. Reason : s]

9/21/2005 3:31:27 PM

anyone else think Lucious is going to get dragged back in to the war?

9/23/2005 3:52:36 AM

^^No one really said it was looked on as a bad thing. Romans used sex as a means of gaining power and influence as much as they used it for anything else. They also didn't really seem to frown on homosexuality the way much of the world does today. It just gives Ceasar an out if nothing else to cover for his medical problems.


^I'd just about bet on it. The story seems to be moving that way, and on the preview of what's to come, it was either him, or a guy that looked just like him back in his military uniform in a scene I don't remember from the first 4 episodes.

[Edited on September 23, 2005 at 8:04 AM. Reason : .]

9/23/2005 8:03:28 AM

^^ captain obvious

9/23/2005 9:15:41 AM

^^ that is what I'm trying to say!!!!!!!! jesus!

it wasn't a bad thing back then, but if you watch the last scene where the slave woman sees caesar leaving the bedroom, you can CLEARLY tell that it was edited to have a very ominous feel to it.

SO WHY EDIT IT TO SEEM OMINOUS

when all its about is gay sex

9/23/2005 9:18:59 AM

I didn't really see it as ominous, more surprise that shy little Octavian had "seduced" someone as powerful as Ceasar. I guess we'll see this week which way they take it.

9/23/2005 10:09:39 AM

why do they call atia "domina"?

9/23/2005 2:06:43 PM

They are her slaves. It is Latin for the feminine form of the word "master." Obviously her husband is dead, so he probably bequethed all of his possessions (including the slaves) to her.

9/23/2005 2:10:35 PM

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"They also didn't really seem to frown on homosexuality the way much of the world does today"

yep and you can tell they weren't ashamed of their own bodies either the way modern society is

thank god Christianity came on the scene to narrow our minds

9/23/2005 4:56:27 PM

ya there is a huge part of philosophy on how the mindset of humanity changed when we went from gods who were respected but seen as very humanlike in quality to a god/gods that were split into good and evil (i.e. the invention of hell)


anyway, how does episode 3 end? the version i have is only 42 minutes long and it end with caeser marching on rome and asking the band to play something more cheerful then it abrubtly cuts off. am i missing anything?

[Edited on September 23, 2005 at 5:53 PM. Reason : .]

9/23/2005 5:52:48 PM

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"I AM THE TOOOLIST ENGLISH MAJOR WHO DEMANDS WE SPEAKETH THE DEAD LANGUAGE EXARCLY CORRECT "

hilarious

9/23/2005 11:28:32 PM

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"anyway, how does episode 3 end? the version i have is only 42 minutes long and it end with caeser marching on rome and asking the band to play something more cheerful then it abrubtly cuts off. am i missing anything? "

nope

9/24/2005 2:48:30 AM

ok thx

9/25/2005 9:53:16 PM

we have learned to imitute you, exarcly....

9/26/2005 11:35:03 AM

Keeps getting better and better. This 5th episode was very dark. Excellent.

9/26/2005 8:35:46 PM

I would have thought that the kid would keep Caesar's sickness on the DL, but I guess if your mom is calling you a faggot, you have to defend yourself.

9/26/2005 10:17:05 PM

not as good as entourage

9/27/2005 1:02:44 AM

I like the way they make Octavian very logical, knowledgable of polictics, and articulate, yet he's still a bitch.

9/27/2005 5:01:16 PM

http://slashdot.org/articles/05/10/07/015210.shtml?tid=97&tid=95

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"HBO is actively poisoning the BitTorrent downloads of the new show Rome. In addition to an older tactic of offering bogus downloads that never complete, HBO is now obstructing the downloads offered by other people. HBO runs peers that tell the tracker they have all the chunks of the show, but then send garbage data when a downloader requests a chunk. While the bogus peers can be detected, it will take much longer to download shows."

10/7/2005 3:37:11 PM

its a good drama, but i'm ready for more battle scenes and more discussion of military tactics

10/7/2005 3:42:15 PM

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"its a good drama, but i'm ready for more battle scenes and more discussion of military tactics"

Then you might be watching the wrong show

10/7/2005 3:52:22 PM

they're about to have a battle - seems like

but they probably have some sort of plot twists that will keep pushing the battle out to "next week's" episode

10/7/2005 3:57:22 PM

I haven't been impressed thus far

10/7/2005 3:57:32 PM

Homosexuality was punishable by death in the Roman Army at the time, so yeah... half you people have no clue what you are talking about. They were a lot more open about regarding sexuality, but held very firm views on things considered immoral.

The man and youth love, which is Greek not Roman, is Pederasty, which most historians agree did not involve penetration, and has been twisted by some groups in our society to fit their views about homosexuality in antiquity.

Overall the show is ok, but seems more about fucking than about war, politics, or Roman life.

10/7/2005 10:52:39 PM

^ oooook white supremacist much?

10/7/2005 10:55:53 PM

^ and that makes sense.. how?

10/8/2005 3:16:54 AM

so then why was the mom all giddy when thought her son was fucking cesar?

10/8/2005 3:34:58 AM

Ytsejam is right


^cuz its a fucking tv show and its not accurately portrayed

10/8/2005 3:48:48 AM

because the aristocracy is generally above the law in any given culture at any given time

10/8/2005 1:02:27 PM

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"I haven't been impressed thus far "

me either...the first 2 or 3 episodes were decent and kept me wanting to watch....but the last couple have put me to sleep. i didnt watch last nites, and i probably wont watch any other new ones.

10/10/2005 9:32:02 AM

yeah, I've pretty much given up. Curb your enthusiasm is the only HBO show I'm watching at the moment. Extras isn't too bad either.

10/10/2005 9:44:21 AM

last night was pretty good, one dude got stabbed in the throat and Pompeii got his head cut off

10/10/2005 9:44:56 AM

pompeii is fine

10/10/2005 7:50:31 PM

pompey=man

pompeii=city

10/10/2005 7:53:17 PM

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"its a good drama, but i'm ready for more battle scenes and more discussion of military tactics"

10/10/2005 8:59:10 PM