yea arsis is great

1/10/2005 12:32:49 AM

^Especially for this being their first release...I havent done the research yet but these guys HAVE to be from some crazy metal backgrounds. These guys give melodic death metal a much needed kick in the ass. Everyone go buy "A Celebration of Guilt" right fucking now. Why I havent heard of them before tonight is beyond me.

When I think of the word "metal," I now think of Arsis.

Spot-on review:
http://www.metalstorm.ee/reviews/more_review.php?id=859

They're coming to Atlanta (with Mortician, Incantation, and The Chasm) in a couple days...emergency road trip anyone?
http://www.worshipdepraved.com/shows.cfm

[Edited on January 10, 2005 at 12:57 AM. Reason : show!]

1/10/2005 12:43:31 AM

^their guitarist/vocalist is one of the most genuinely nice dudes I have met in a long time too...they were supposed to play a show on the 11th in NC but they aren't playing now...weak

1/10/2005 12:56:00 AM

^There are only two guys in the band, right? Any famous session players for the live shows?

[Edited on January 10, 2005 at 1:08 AM. Reason : ]

1/10/2005 12:58:27 AM

nevermind...

Quote :

" ...Van Dyne relocated to Virginia in January of 2003, and a live band was put together immediately. Arsis signed to Willowtip Records in the fall of 2003, and the addition of bass player Justin Shaw in January of 2004 and Jake Ososkie on second guitar in August of 2004 solidified the lineup."

http://www.worshipdepraved.com/history.cfm

1/10/2005 1:13:03 AM

yeah they didn't have the 2nd guitarist playing with them yet when I saw them...I think it was in August

and yeah there was NO ONE there...fuck NC

1/10/2005 1:16:53 AM

yea some friends of mine in a band called Winter Solstice(just got signed to metalblade) is on tour right now and arsis is on a couple random dates. i know this show for sure:

was tonight in VA:
01/09/2005 06:00 PM - Colonial Heights Community
Center, Colonial Heights, VA 23834, -
Winter Solstice, Arsis, Invocation of Nehek

1/10/2005 1:33:37 AM

PS the ONLY thing that i dont like sometimes that a lot of metal bands seem to do anymore is just straight double kicker rolls the entire song. while it takes some crazy practice and endurance to do that i like a little more creativity sometimes with that bass drum. but thast a minor thing. everything else is amazing

1/10/2005 2:13:33 AM

^yeah I agree...I haven't heard everything off that CD yet but I noticed that too. He has enough bass drum dynamic in there though that it hasn't detracted from the sound, in my opinion anyway...though I guess time will tell

still... \m/

1/10/2005 9:37:27 AM

January 11th

Seneca
Arsis (Willowtip Records)
The Hostage Heart
Invocation of Nehek (Prosthetic Records)

The Milestone - Charlotte, NC
8:00pm

1/10/2005 3:44:01 PM

or

January 10th

Arsis (Willowtip Records)
Invocation of Nehek
Misery Index
The Hostage Heart
Bloodquest
Monarch

Michael Bob's - Norfolk, VA
7:00pm - $7

1/10/2005 3:47:59 PM

^ double post OMG!!!!!

1/10/2005 3:51:30 PM

OMG

1/10/2005 3:57:52 PM

I'm serious...Arsis is going to be in Atlanta Thursday...anyone want to go? I'm gonna start a thread on it I think

1/10/2005 8:42:21 PM

Well, if we're talking about concerts,

AMORPHIS w/ INTO ETERNITY & BEYOND THE EMBRACE
3/24 Springfield, VA

CRYPTOPSY w/ CATTLE DECAPITATION & DEVILINSIDE
2/24 West Springfield, VA
2/25 Fayetteville, NC

KING DIAMOND w/ NILE, BEHEMOTH & BLACK DAHILA MURDER
4/22 Springfield, VA

SOILWORK w/ DARK TRANQUILITY, HYPOCRISY & MNEMIC
4/29 W. Springfield, VA

SUFFOCATION w/ BEHEMOTH, CATTLE DECAPITATION & DEVILINSIDE
1/18 Fayetteville, NC

1/10/2005 8:42:56 PM

^Fuck I want to go to all of those shows...particularly want to see Nile and Cryptopsy but I would love to see Soilwork, Dark Tranquillity, Behemoth, and Hypocrisy too

damn the following:

money
time
school

1/10/2005 8:48:40 PM

i would kill 17 babies to see Nile and Cryptoposy together

1/10/2005 9:23:51 PM

^I would only steal the 17 babies.. then I'd give them to Nile and Cryptopsy to kill them with more satanic conviction than I could ever dream of.

1/10/2005 10:03:11 PM

Just keep your ears peeled, then. They'll announce the lineup for this year's New England Metalfest in late Jan.

1/10/2005 11:55:29 PM

awesome

1/11/2005 12:04:25 AM

back to the original topic, anyone else got a top 10?

(i.e. bttt )

1/11/2005 1:52:34 AM

BTW, all of those shows nonlogic listed will be playing in either Winston Salem, or Fayetteville as well. So you dont have to drive to DC.

1/11/2005 10:07:34 AM

I must have an outdated info sheet. I have the Amorphis tour being in Baltimore, Springfield, and Atlanta as the closest locations. I also have the King Diamond/Nile tour as being in Springfield, Atlanta, and Baltimore, as well. The Hypocrisy/DT show I have in only Atlanta and Springfield.

If you can get me an updated list, that'd be great.

1/11/2005 12:09:11 PM

Jesters Pub (via pollstar.com)
Fayetteville, NC

Fri 02/25/05
Cattle Decapitation
Cryptopsy
Misery Index
The Autumn Offering

Tue 03/29/05
Amorphis
Beyond The Embrace
Into Eternity
Single Bullet Theory

Sat 05/07/05
Death Angel
If Hope Dies
Kreator / Vader

Ziggy's, Winston-Salem (via http://www.ziggyrock.com)
FRI APR 22

SOILWORK
DARK TRANQUILITY / HYPOCRISY
MNEMIC



You're right about the King Diamond / Nile tour. Springfield, and Atlanta are the closest.

Also,

The Masquerade, Atlanta GA
Thu 04/28/05
Nightwish
Sonata Arctica

[Edited on January 11, 2005 at 12:28 PM. Reason : more ]

1/11/2005 12:25:59 PM

Sheesh. Record labels can't even keep up on their own bands as far as tour dates go.

1/11/2005 4:54:18 PM

Why is being on the Nuclear Blast label 'selling out'?? I've never understood that bullshit...there are some great bands like Children of Bodom, Kataklysm, Death, Meshuggah, Hypocrisy, Dimmu Borgir, In Flames and Soilwork just to name a few big ones off the top of my head...can someone explain this to me?

1/11/2005 6:49:22 PM

Look at what Dimmu Borgir did for other labels and then for Nuclear Blast. Same with Death. Same with Children of Bodom. Same for Soilwork.

It's not necessarily selling out, and it may not even be my opinion for all of the bands listed, but a lot of the bands had more "accessible" albums for Nuclear Blast, or didn't stick to their roots.

1/11/2005 9:07:06 PM

^point taken

1/11/2005 11:15:20 PM

I wouldnt throw CoB in there with that group. While every album has its distinct sound, i dont think they've taken a turn for the worse with Hate crew. Same for Dimmu.

In Flames chose to sell out. They've stated numerous times that they are intentionally molding their music to appeal to the american market.

1/11/2005 11:25:37 PM

^yeah In Flames purposely went in the shitter, which makes it even harder to swallow

1/12/2005 12:01:34 AM

Dimmu's music has definitely changed since they signed on to N.B., but I'm not saying that's bad. "True Norwegian Black Metal" fans may despise them now, but whatever, I love their sound old and new.

CoB doesn't vary too much between records, which is fine because if you've got a good sound there's nothing wrong with sticking to it. I don't know that N.B. has really affected their sound too much, at least not for the worse, though I could be oblivious...

You're right about In Flames...I can't take them now...back in the day (Lunar Strain through Whoracle) they were at the top of their game. Now they're just another pop band as far as I'm concerned. Clayman was the most overrated album ever, that shit put me to sleep.

1/12/2005 12:33:36 AM

Ill go up to Colony...but Clayman was defintely the beginning of their end.

And fuck "True Norwegian Black Metal" fans. They're all too busy competeing over who listens to the most brutal, and evil shit.

1/12/2005 12:55:41 AM

Darkthrone will stab your pussy Dimmu Borgir music!1!!

1/12/2005 10:34:24 AM

^^haha it does seem that way sometimes...i joined a "True Norwegian Black Metal" group on facebook and one of the guys has introduced me to some of the more obscure shit, and I'll have to say I like it for certain elements it contains...but I also know what I like and I like Dimmu Borgir, so dem hatas can take a scorching flagpole up the ass...btw, Colony was a good album from what I've heard of it, I just couldnt remember it off the top of my head because I don't have it yet. I think The Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritance is my favorite, that or Lunar Strain

^Darkthrone \m/

1/12/2005 12:46:31 PM

Well, I've got to get in on this topic. Although I don't listen to heavy music quite as much as I use-to. I just use the word heavy, even though the title is "metal," and for some, what I listen to isn't metal to them. But anyway here we go in no particular order. Oh!! and yeah I'm fully aware that some of these bands are borderline mainstream heavy bands.

Neurosis...my favorite band.
Tool
Machine Head
Isis...just recently got into them, and they are fuckin great!
In Flames
nothingface...who doesn't exist anymore :-(
Hopesfall...except for the newest album
System of a Down
Eyehategod
VOD...who also doesn't exist anymore

hhmmm... well theres ten. I could probably change a few on different days.

1/12/2005 5:59:55 PM

I would like to add majority rule (credit to nrmiller) to my list. I ripped a few songs off soulseek and i love it.
definitely see the similarity to isis and i actually like the vocals.

I love the instrumental approach that they and isis take. really wish i could find more bands
with a similar sound. im sorta sick of bands that just wanna play as fast and technical as possible.

[Edited on January 12, 2005 at 6:37 PM. Reason : .]

1/12/2005 6:36:18 PM

If you're into checking out different bands, I'll name a few that might be lesser known or just passed over:

Diabolic
Ablaze My Sorrow
Khold
Solitude Aeternus
Blood Red Throne
Aura Noir
Dodheimsgard
Decapitated
Limbonic Art
NonExist

(and jeez, if you haven't listened to Enslaved, do so. Preferably from the Mardraum or Blodhemn albums)

1/12/2005 7:17:00 PM

(and listen to Bal-Sagoth, Cadaveria and Opera IX if you don't listen to them)

1/12/2005 10:56:29 PM

Quote :

"I would like to add majority rule (credit to nrmiller) to my list. I ripped a few songs off soulseek and i love it. definitely see the similarity to isis and i actually like the vocals. I love the instrumental approach that they and isis take. really wish i could find more bands with a similar sound. im sorta sick of bands that just wanna play as fast and technical as possible."

fucking awesome man...oh and I never meant that I didn't like the vox just that they don't remind of Isis...I love their vocals...I had never heard them until I saw them in Charlotte a while back and they blew me away; I was sold right then.

edit: which songs did you DL? they are all really good

[Edited on January 12, 2005 at 11:11 PM. Reason : ]

1/12/2005 11:10:50 PM

^i have the first 4 off of Emergency Numbers and the first 2 off of Interview With David Frost.
American Feature is probably my favorite song so far.

i'm trying to get everything by them but you know how soulseek is...50,000 In queue

1/13/2005 12:17:05 AM

yeah soulseek keeps you in line all day, and bearshare is just not providing me with any results which is odd...and i've just spent about 120 bucks on new cds in the past month so i really dont want to go out and buy any more just yet...

1/13/2005 12:27:43 AM

tool
opeth
isis
neurosis
there were wires
city of caterpillar
iron maiden
black sabbath
children of bodom
death


for those who like majority rule, check out city of caterpillar and there were wires. both amazing amazing bands and more similar to majority rule than majority rule is to isis.

props to this topic for keeping the metal real.

1/13/2005 12:41:18 AM

^i also want to thank everyone who posted for keepin this thread real...i got into a couple great bands because of it and i haven't seen one serious post asking if "disturbed" (or some other analogous shitfest) was real metal. this gives me hope, albiet tentative hope, for the progress of good music. rock the fuck on, and keep the lists comin

[Edited on January 13, 2005 at 9:46 PM. Reason : ]

1/13/2005 9:45:40 PM

My slightly updated list:

Opeth
Tool
Lamb of God
Meshuggah
Bloodbath
Dimmu Borgir
Arch Enemy
Children of Bodom
Kalmah
Arsis

Replaced Slayer with Arsis because we all know Slayer's true place in the Metal Halls of Fame, no need to make a point here...

(sorry, lame attempt at bumping this thread )

1/17/2005 6:48:41 PM

I have to make an adjustment to my list as well. I put off getting Borknagar's latest cd "Epic" because I read some bad reviews. Well, those reviews were evidently from retards cuz this album fucking rocks. I liked Empiricism but it seemed to be missing something. Epic is far greater than Empiricism in my opinion. I love the chill parts and the vocals are great this time around. The lyrics are impressive as well. The only complaint I have is that the keyboards are a little to prominent at times and I would have liked to hear more of the slower melodic parts (they are beautiful on this album). The keyboards would've served better as a more atmospheric element instead of taking the lead sometimes. I love guitars and one of the main problems with the black metal genre is that the keyboards often take precedence over the guitars. I think this is the reason I like Cradle of Filth's newer stuff more than the old. This album reminds me a little of "The Sham Mirrors" by Arcturus but far more "epic" (excuse the pun). I'll let Borknagar replace Avenged Sevenfold since they aren't really true metal and haven't released but a few albums.

Opeth
Isis
Tool
Agalloch
Cradle of Filth
Arcturus
Mastodon
In Flames
Mudvayne
Borknagar

1/17/2005 8:45:17 PM

^very well said...i hope it was me that convinced you, i like taking credit
borknagar is the shit...they are a VERY close runner up to my top 10, i just cant find anyone on my list i would replace them with. Arcturus is right up there too.

1/17/2005 10:11:22 PM

do you guys think it's worth starting a similar topic to this that focuses more on Hardcore bands, rather than metal bands?

I could go on all day.

1/17/2005 10:49:16 PM

I got Epic today after reading good reviews. I managed to get about 9 songs in before I switched to something else. It's fairly good, and I'll probably listen to it a few times, but it's nowhere near as good as (my personal favorite) The Archaic Course. I listen to "Oceans Rise" and "Ad Noctum" all the time.

After thinking about how I tend to like the older stuff from most of the black metal bands, I revisited some things I listened to around that time, and have these listening suggestions (specific songs, if possible):

Hate Eternal - By His Own Decree
God Dethroned - Bloody Blasphemy
Enslaved - Hordalendingen, Daudningekvida, Eit Auga Til Mimir
Emperor - Loss and Curse of Reverence
Diabolic - View with Abhorrence, Sacrament of Fiends
Immortal - Solarfall, Withstand the Fall of Time
Old Man's Child - Obscure Divine Manifestation

If you can't find these or don't want to take the time to look, give me a message and I'll try to get them to you.

1/17/2005 11:57:47 PM

^^sure man go for it. I cant say that I know a lot about the genre or what you would consider hardcore. Some punk fans hate the term hardcore unless you are referring to Minor Threat or something. haha. I'm always down to hear some new bands and if nothing else I will check out some of the bands listed and post what I think about them.

^its seems like I'm the only person who likes the newer black metal better than the older stuff. I guess it has to do with the fact that I like melodic music and songs that are more progressive. My favorite bands all mix slower and faster parts and clean and harsh vocals. I guess I'm the one who's really ADD
since I can't seem to listen to bands that keep the same pace or vocal style throughout a song.

1/18/2005 12:22:13 AM

Emperor, Enslaved, Immortal, Dissection, etc., are all "old" black metal bands (or were at one point), and didn't always keep the same vocal or musical styles throughout songs. The breed of "new" black metal bands may be that way in general, but there are plenty of bands that were around in the early days of Norwegian black metal that don't sound like Darkthrone.

1/18/2005 12:27:06 AM