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drtaylor
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ok, heres your shot, i couldnt help but click on the thread and was intrigued by your picks.

just out of curiosity whats your plan for exm?

a really quick glance at the charts seemed a little conflicting to me, but it really looks like it should keep heading up after a shouldering of sorts thats on the way, but without really looking at it i cant tell which indicators id be most comfortable looking at for that stock so it may in fact be headed for a drop depending. but thats just what my chicken bones and voodoo numbers say, what kind of a method are you using to do analysis, because from all outward appearances it might actually be pretty decent?

9/13/2004 12:31:50 PM

emtrane
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^ No, but in response to

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"To buy stocks like ibm which is ~~$87 you would really need about 5k because its not worth buying 4 shares of ibm and then paying commission"


I don't know how your commisions work, but mine are flat for every transaction. So it doesn't matter if you buy hundreds of those over the counter stocks or 4 shares of IBM. If both go up 10% and you sell, you've made the same amount.

9/13/2004 12:32:37 PM

LeGo
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^ the counter arguement to what you posted is, for IBM to go up 10% would be a jump of around $8.70, other stocks that are around 25 dollars or more have a smaller amount of work to do to get 10% ($2.50)...

that is obviously a bad way to look at things but in limited time trading, you have to. this is only in reference to price not PE, share numbers or anything else.

9/13/2004 1:31:57 PM

bkfemme
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"go ahead, bitch."


hold on a minute...wait wait...

*tear*


thanks for bringing this thread back to the top...

9/13/2004 2:41:17 PM

paintballer
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total portfolio up 12% in 1 month

9/13/2004 7:24:47 PM

paintballer
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look on the first page....SCSC
ive held it for a while now...up almost 25%

9/13/2004 7:31:31 PM

paintballer
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DKS
dicks sporting goods mademe a lot of money also

9/13/2004 7:32:58 PM

Lowjack
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good job

9/13/2004 7:35:51 PM

paintballer
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i personally would not be comfortable enough going for EXM right now...the financials seem too sporadic the past 3 years... true it takes money to make money, but the negative cashflow in 02 worries me...
what i do like about it tho is that 47% of the holders are insiders...
but like i said, not something i would buy right now...but who knows i might be completly wrong

9/13/2004 8:50:57 PM

SpeedFreak
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I like the stock market. And Neon. You're a jackass

9/13/2004 9:23:18 PM

SpeedFreak
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yeah, I spelled your name wrong.

9/13/2004 9:23:54 PM

ssjamind
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im currently scouting out

BRL
BMET
C
FDC
FDS
FRX
IGT
JNJ
LCR
RNR
SIAL
WAT


The full criteria for this screen:

1. Owner earnings ( cash flow less capital expenditures) above $20 million
2. Net margins of at least 15% for the trailing 12 months
3. Return on equity of at least 15% the previous quarter and in every year for the last three years
4. Retained earnings that have grown less than the market capitalization, on an absolute basis, in the last five years
5. Looking five years into the future, projected cash flow per share greater than the current market price for each stock (discounted to the present using the 30-year Treasury yield)
6. Market capitalization of $500 million or more



I'll likely buy and hold a few of these for anywhere from 3 moniths to a year.

9/13/2004 10:26:11 PM

ssjamind
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but first i have to do valuations on Wendy's and Applebees, or else drtaylor will beat my ass

9/13/2004 10:31:45 PM

drtaylor
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hey you might find a hot buy there, dont knock it

all this valuation stuff is made up anyway, i say we just roll dice

9/13/2004 10:33:15 PM

ssjamind
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yeah but i need to learn my valuation crazy code for grading purposes, and so i can talk the talk at work

9/13/2004 10:36:00 PM

paintballer
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^^ where did u come up with your criteria? a class you took? a book? or yourself?

mine are almost the same....a few minor differences here and there, but mines basically mix of a couple books and my personal experience

9/13/2004 11:16:03 PM

paintballer
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after looking over your list of companies. i must say, a lot of good choices
i personally look for small caps that are on the verge on blowing up...some of yours seem a little too big for my taste...
i couldnt find LCR, what company and what exchange is that on?
not that anyone cares, but my favorite of the list, FDS, followed by BMET, and then JNJ
least favorite is definitely C...too big, too many shares, unknown/random cashflow
but once again, good picks overall

9/13/2004 11:31:37 PM

scottncst8
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Quote :
"This thread is a mockery of the efficient market hypothesis."

9/13/2004 11:48:26 PM

paintballer
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how so? cause you dont know what we're talking about?

9/13/2004 11:53:17 PM

Lowjack
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does it really take that much to mock the efficient market hypothesis?

9/14/2004 5:30:57 AM

paintballer
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^^ agreed, it doesnt take very much...to me the emh is an excuse for people that really dont know what theyre doing...

9/14/2004 7:30:48 AM

ssjamind
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Quote :
"^^ where did u come up with your criteria? a class you took? a book? or yourself?"


all of the above + publications such as BW, IBD, WSJ...its a work in progress

9/14/2004 7:57:36 PM

SnakeBite
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paintballer
that SCSC pick was a great one, i've had that in one of my portfolio's for a while (don't own it though) my father told me about that one a while ago. great company, hold it.

9/14/2004 10:07:31 PM

paintballer
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snake...thanks, im definitely going to hold it for awhile...
ssjamind...cool, im a huge fan of IBD. if you havent yet, check out bill oneils book how to make money in stocks hes the founder of IBD and defintely helps a lot

9/14/2004 11:28:09 PM

lovsmimn
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Anyone looking to get into the market should look at Scottrade. http://www.scottrade.com I have been using their services for a few years. They just won a JD Power and Assoc. award for highest online investor satisfaction. They have $7 market orders and $12 Limits. I believe that the minimum to start is just $500. When I graduated from NCSU I was a financial advisor for 2 years, and this is one of the best do-it-yourself investor sites I have run across.

By the way never buy when the market opens unless you know of some new market data coming out that will affect the price with upward momentum. There is alot of buildup from the after hours trades and before market action. This can be a costly mistake if you are impatient.

If you really want to lose some money play in the penny stocks (under $5 per share) this is a quick way to make money, but it is even quicker way to lose it all. DO NOT GET INTO PENNY STOCKS UNLESS YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE ALL THEY MONEY YOU PUT INTO THE MARKET!

Check out Marvel (MVL). This stock just took a big hit, and is on the way back up. Check the financials, and see what you think for youself.

If you are looking for some great market insight check out fool.com. Good Luck!

9/15/2004 5:16:28 PM

ssjamind
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i use scottrade and i like it a lot


fyi

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/aug2004/nf2004086_3955_db016.htm

9/15/2004 7:07:24 PM

Duck
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Dean's Foods stock took loss of seven dollars............DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!! Thanks stock market, for fucking me up.........

9/15/2004 8:04:32 PM

paintballer
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yup, i use scottrade, definitely a great brokerage

9/15/2004 9:16:20 PM

emtrane
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Don't try to time the market, whether it be the hour of the day or quarter of the year. Unless you're a speculator, that is.

9/15/2004 9:58:59 PM

paintballer
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i just realized that lovsmimn is an exact duplicate of me...not really, but he worked as a financial advisor, i want to be a financial advisor...he likes scottrade, i use scottrade...i uses the motley fool...im a huge fan of the fool (i recommended them a month or 2 ago)

9/16/2004 10:48:19 AM

ssjamind
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i rode TASR on the way up,

now i'm thinking of taking some short positions




might play both sides in the future

9/16/2004 11:48:14 PM

lovsmimn
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If you are looking for more info on stocks you can always check Reuters, http://www.reuters.com. They provide great and reliable info on the stocks, financials, anything you may need to make the decision on whether or not to buy/sell/short a stock. The info on here is a little more indepth that yahoo. Make sure you do your research before you purcahse a stock, and dont ever buy on price alone. For novice investors it is recommended that you not hold more than 8-10 positions at a time unless you can devote alot of time and research to keep up on your holdings. I currently hold only 15 positions as a measure. Just some advice for those of you who are interested. Good Luck!

9/17/2004 12:48:04 PM

SnakeBite
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thanx to tasr im gonna retire...hahaha...hell i've never worked...hahaha


should of bought mvl when it went chapter 11 in the 1990's. i sold mine a while back

[Edited on September 17, 2004 at 8:44 PM. Reason : mvl]

9/17/2004 8:43:27 PM

packguy381
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folks

invest in darius_iss@yahoo.com

9/17/2004 8:48:46 PM

paintballer
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so i took a decent hit today when i was in class...MPX dropped like a bitch the past 2 days...stop loss hit it right at about 8%...what sucks is that i had a limit set on it for for 18.75 ...since ive held it the highest its gotten was 18.66
o well...i have my other stocks making up for it...

9/17/2004 11:33:55 PM

SnakeBite
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hell yes, EXM up 14%
good gain for a day that the market is down.

9/20/2004 1:29:01 PM

SnakeBite
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damn, another $6 gain on exm
i think that would be 12%

[Edited on September 21, 2004 at 10:40 AM. Reason : i'm rich, i'm rich, i'm filthy rich]

9/21/2004 10:38:13 AM

skankinande
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folks

invest in darius_iss@yahoo.com

9/21/2004 12:31:54 PM

SnakeBite
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^^umm ok.... if you want to...
damn i looked at EXM again, closed up $10...

9/21/2004 4:48:23 PM

lovsmimn
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Check out these two reccomendations. Read for you yourself and see what you think of their valuations.

SS&C Technologies (SSNC)

Electronics Boutique (ELBO)

Both are motley fool stock pics from this month. Good Luck!

9/21/2004 11:43:41 PM

dyson
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just sold XOM for about 30% from earlier this year... should i have held on longer? made about a grand off of it and thought i shouldn't really push my luck...

9/21/2004 11:48:15 PM

SnakeBite
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xom is one of those that you keep for like years in my opinion, good sell

9/22/2004 12:02:55 AM

dyson
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well i was thinking i'll buy back in when it drops, but it's at its 52 week high... well for that matter, 5 year high, i think... but this was actually a position i was holding in my roth ira... so maybe i should have kept it...

9/22/2004 12:07:40 AM

SnakeBite
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XOM just took over MSFT's place as second in market capitalization. number one is GE. XOM will do good reguardless. i have thought of purchasing it, it will atleast be a stable place to put money in instead of taking it out of the market. XOM wont go down anytime soon unless we run out of oil

9/22/2004 2:46:23 PM

SnakeBite
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woot woot sirius up this week, i love it. thank you howard stern

10/7/2004 12:49:37 AM

moe
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^ hell yeah...bought me some SIRI a few months ago

10/7/2004 1:58:49 PM

paintballer
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meh...siri still worries me...my scsc however just makes me giggle like a little girl

10/8/2004 10:20:04 AM

paintballer
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sweeeeeet LM announced kickass earnings today...glad i decided to play it off the split...finally some good news after a couple weeks of crap

10/21/2004 9:45:07 AM

paintballer
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http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/041028/285880_1.html

lets see how much $$ i make off of this

10/28/2004 4:12:51 PM

jsncc587
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Watch OMM and AUML. They're moving.

10/29/2004 11:18:42 AM

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