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dman ncsu 86
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yeh pretty much everywhere has 1/2...some places its 1/3 though (i know its 1/3 at ceasars)...

the excalibur has .5/1 on the electronic tables -- and one of those shitty places by imperial palace has .5/1...i think its called o'sheas. its awesome bc they have live karaoke pretty near the tables and a night club entrance right in front of the tables so i like going just to drink and look at all the hookers and crazy people going to the clubs or singing karaoke

3/1/2010 5:58:43 PM

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David,

I just got back from Vegas, I'll second the Venetian for $1/$2 although there were far more solid players there than other places I played.

The best by far was at The Wynn. It's pretty small (about 20-25 tables mostly $1/3 and $2/$5 NL) but it was absolutely loaded with a bunch of rich calling stations. I played the $1/$3 which was super easy. A good buy in is $150, you can double up pretty easily and work from there. I really wanted to play the $2/$5 but I didn't want to risk the variance in my bankroll. I'm probably going to try it next time though, I remember watching from the rail and seeing some of the most bizarrely awful calls I've ever seen. You really should check it out at least once. There's a nice $70 MTT you can check out at the Mirage, I think it runs every day but I'm not positive. Good luck to you, I'll be coming back very soon myself.

3/1/2010 8:01:19 PM

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Never been to the wynn. How far is it from the strip? How's the structure for that tourney?

3/2/2010 5:49:24 PM

dman ncsu 86
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the wynns a little bit out of the way -- you could walk it if you were feeling ballsy or its prolly like a 5 min cab ride from mid-strip.

i haven't played at the wynn but from all i've heard their poker room staff is shitty. its a baller casino though so i'm sure theres more than enough fishy rish assholes donating though

3/2/2010 7:38:32 PM

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Got back a few weeks ago as well.

If you're looking to play cash games, no need to go anywhere other than the Venetian. Biggest room by far and it has a lot of action. I personally don't like the 1/3 at the Wynn, but maybe I've just been at a few bad tables.

If you have the roll, and are feeling up for it - play the 2-5 1k max at the Venetian. Sit back and wait to stack some dude overplaying top pair for $1,000. This is the only game I played, was there for 5 days, and did not have a losing session. Ended up making about 5-6k.

I'll be at the Borgata next week. WSOP circuit event @ caesars as well. Anyone gonna be up there?

3/4/2010 12:19:44 AM

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You guys are to hardcore for me. I just try to win a freeroll here or there to get some free money to play with.

I was home sick the other day and ended up spending over 6 hours finishing 22nd in a 4000+ ppl freeroll. Sad part is, if I just folded out, I would have cashed, but I didn't even get a dollar. Person went all in w/ a A-4 bet over top of my heavy bet to try to steal the pot. I called with my JJ and looked to be in about 4th in chips until the A hit on the river. I can't imagine how pissed I would be if I ever lost real money like that. (I guess I have when I built up 5 free $ from one of these to 250 and lost it in the same manner.)

My biggest problem is not my skill. I have excellent reads on people. It's my management of money as the stack grows. I don't have the self-composure to store the winnings and go back to where I was. I always have the "I can win a ton!" attitude.

3/4/2010 3:18:22 PM

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Bellagio makes a nice cup of coffee. Nothing like watching sports and enjoying free drinks.

3/4/2010 5:03:12 PM

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should have planned it around conference tournaments / first week of ncaas

sitting int he mirage sports book the first ncaas weekend is like heaven

3/4/2010 5:14:14 PM

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Best man won a free trip so we are staying in bellagio for free. Mandalay bay was dead so played at mgm some. That went well. Saw a guy donk off a grand in a little under 2 hours playing 1-2. Playing at wynn now and it sucksssss. About to request a table change.

3/4/2010 5:52:57 PM

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New table looks a little better. Not a big fan of playing 9 handed. May stop in a few to do some hockey sports betting.

3/4/2010 6:39:06 PM

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Hey, I just started trying to use PokerTracker3 but it won't recognize my player as being at the table so it's not saving any statistics for me. Does anyone know why it's doing this or point me somewhere that can tell me why. I tried using the support forum but I couldn't find anything useful.

3/5/2010 3:52:21 PM

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Trolling people in the chat box at the micro limits is fun AND profitable


Suuuuuuuuper Donkey

PokerStars Game #40723366690: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2010/03/05 18:57:53 ET
Table 'Spitzer III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: SHWADE22 ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: memODBnem ($1.52 in chips)
Seat 3: gegue_1 ($2.37 in chips)
Seat 5: tapotten ($2.01 in chips)
Seat 7: amdedier ($4.93 in chips)
Seat 8: slxxxviii ($4.97 in chips)
Seat 9: pulman23 ($3.90 in chips)
pulman23: posts small blind $0.01
SHWADE22: posts big blind $0.02
RneilandR: sits out
o222: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SHWADE22 [Td 2d]
memODBnem: calls $0.02
gegue_1: folds
tapotten has timed out
tapotten: folds
amdedier: calls $0.02
slxxxviii: folds
pulman23: calls $0.01
SHWADE22: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c Qd Tc]
pulman23: bets $0.06
SHWADE22: calls $0.06
memODBnem: calls $0.06
amdedier: folds
*** TURN *** [2c Qd Tc] [2h]
pulman23: bets $0.14
SHWADE22: calls $0.14
memODBnem: folds
*** RIVER *** [2c Qd Tc 2h] [4c]
pulman23: checks
SHWADE22: bets $0.12
pulman23: raises $0.18 to $0.30
SHWADE22: raises $0.74 to $1.04
pulman23: raises $0.74 to $1.78
SHWADE22: raises $3 to $4.78 and is all-in
pulman23: calls $1.90 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.10) returned to SHWADE22
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SHWADE22: shows [Td 2d] (a full house, Deuces full of Tens)
pulman23: shows [Qc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
SHWADE22 collected $7.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.90 | Rake $0.35
Board [2c Qd Tc 2h 4c]
Seat 1: SHWADE22 (big blind) showed [Td 2d] and won ($7.55) with a full house, Deuces full of Tens
Seat 2: memODBnem folded on the Turn
Seat 3: gegue_1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tapotten folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: amdedier folded on the Flop
Seat 8: slxxxviii (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: pulman23 (small blind) showed [Qc Ac] and lost with a flush, Ace high

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 7:01 PM. Reason : ]

3/5/2010 6:56:30 PM

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Wow... a flush beat by a boat... never seen that.. and 7 bucks.. wow... you're a rich man now!

3/5/2010 7:03:24 PM

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Chill out dude. It's an amusing hand because he played it ssssooooooo poorly no matter what level it's at.

3/5/2010 7:08:05 PM

David0603
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Wtf are you takking about?

3/6/2010 2:20:28 PM

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"Chill out dude. It's an amusing hand because he played it ssssooooooo poorly no matter what level it's at."


Actually I think his line on every street w/ AQ is fine (aside from river bet sizing [but hey it's 2nl lol]) -- river is a tad thin.

But T2 is a clear raise on both the flop and turn fwiw.

[Edited on March 6, 2010 at 3:19 PM. Reason : sp]

3/6/2010 3:18:16 PM

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So you don't think he should have raised pre-flop?

3/6/2010 5:38:16 PM

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He could have, but not raising there from the SB is definitely not a leak imo.

3/6/2010 6:22:19 PM

dman ncsu 86
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"So you don't think he should have raised pre-flop?"


4 handed OOP and at 2nl yeh raising here is just asking to be bent over and raped on pretty much all flops that you don't hit 2pr on.

3/6/2010 6:41:04 PM

IMStoned420
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Well it couldn't have gone much worse for him than it did.

3/6/2010 6:44:08 PM

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"Well it couldn't have gone much worse for him than it did."


You could say the same thing about someone who 5 bets all in pre with AA and gets run down by 83o making two pair.

Don't think you should be too results oriented there about not raising with AQ out of position. But I do think he misplayed that on the riv - put in one too many raises.

3/6/2010 7:58:12 PM

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Yeah, I've just recently started reading the 2+2 forums and realized they almost never put the result of the hand up. But I still think it's good to look at each individual hand.

But even at the 5NL (it's not 2) and even in the SB you can raise to like $.14 there because the people limping in are literally limping in with like K2o or J4s and shit like that. Even they know not to call a raise that big with their junk. Everyone would probably fold and even if he gets one or two callers and hits his queen he'll probably be good there. Most people at this level don't even think about position so he'd probably take down an easy pot with top pair.

3/6/2010 8:51:25 PM

dman ncsu 86
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Yeh only thing is the equity of AQ against 3-4 random hands isn't high at all. And being OOP only tends to complicate things. Not to mention all the flops you miss (obv more than you won't) your going to feel like donk betting into how many ever randoms saw the flop and they will be floating you with a laughable amount of their range.

It's just silly.

Point of my rambooool -- nut peddle and play pots in position at the micro stakes.

3/6/2010 9:12:40 PM

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Well which way is preferable then? Should he have limped in like everyone else or raised and gotten 2 or 3 people out? It doesn't seem like there's any way to win there.

3/6/2010 9:23:54 PM

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defintley just limp there

only thing he did weird was the whole 8bet river thingy lol

at some point he should be folding the riv ldo

3/6/2010 11:18:15 PM

IMStoned420
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But if I had re-raised on the flop or turn then he should have folded then, right?

3/6/2010 11:21:48 PM

dman ncsu 86
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on the flop nah..he can call reval...

but any big action on turn he can shut down pretty easily since its a 4way limped pot...ranges are superrrr wide there

3/7/2010 12:27:24 AM

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Was in ACY this past weekend. Had dug myself a little hole in no limit (which for me meant 'no cards'). Played 2/4 limit. Was dealt AJ of hearts. Flopped the royal.

What did I win? $10

Waited years for a royal, and thats all I won. Good news is that I was hitting all day on limit, and won a few hundred bucks to put me back even for the trip.

3/8/2010 9:22:57 AM

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why do you feel like you should get something (other than the pot) for a royal?

3/8/2010 10:08:21 AM

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Imagine it like finally making a hole in one and the greenskeeper is your only witness

3/8/2010 10:19:42 AM

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"why do you feel like you should get something (other than the pot) for a royal?"


Maybe because a lot of casinos will pay you for getting one? Borgata did not, but several others would have spotted me a few hundred.

[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 10:21 AM. Reason : .]

3/8/2010 10:21:07 AM

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Finally recuperated from the bachelor party. Made about $290 playing poker a few hours each day which I then blew on strippers and booze. The game is much harder than it was a few years ago. It was a fun trip though. Got to hang out with Turner some as well as a stripper I used to know in grade school. I was somewhat disappointed in the room. We had to call the maintenance man the first night to fix the ac, you had to pull the door shut when leaving the room, and there was no coffee maker. On the plus side, the blinds were automatic which I thought was pretty cool.

3/8/2010 1:10:14 PM

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i know this thread is about poker... which this is not.

which strip clubs did you go to? i need some ideas for my bachelor party in may.

3/8/2010 1:20:27 PM

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if you're in vegas

just go to spearmint rhino

3/8/2010 1:25:19 PM

David0603
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Couldn't agree more. They'll even pick you up in a limo for free.

3/8/2010 1:45:46 PM

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what kind of group packages are available?

3/8/2010 2:05:57 PM

dman ncsu 86
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spearmint rhino -- not even close

3/8/2010 2:06:50 PM

dman ncsu 86
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u can usually find some sketchy sales man on the strip who will sale u packages

or prolly just call the place

we went the sketchy salesman route and it worked just fine

3/8/2010 2:08:02 PM

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standing offer
If you get weekend poker rates at the borgata in ACY, and allow me and possibly 2 other people to share a room [obviously we share the room cost], your share of the gas in the airplane to get to ACY will be on me. Just PM me. Since I just got back, I'm not itching to go in the next 30 days, but maybe the month after.

I now get the discounted rate on weekdays, but dont play high enough to get more than 20% off the weekend (which anywhere from 300-400 a night).



[Edited on March 8, 2010 at 2:28 PM. Reason : .]

3/8/2010 2:24:16 PM

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I think it was 395 for bottle service, but if you go late enough you can easily find seats. The drinks are on par for vegas, $9 for a beer.

3/8/2010 2:27:14 PM

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Anyone gonna be up there this weekend? (Borgata)

3/8/2010 6:42:20 PM

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Meh I sorta decided after my last trip to AC a few weeks back that I have zero interest in ever entering the state of NJ ever again unless forced.

Only live poker I wanna play from now on is in Vegas...not that I really am to excited about live poker in general though.

3/8/2010 7:12:23 PM

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That's a shame imo. Some of the juiciest 5-10 games I've ever played in when tournaments are in town \ on holiday weekends. Plus, if you fly from rdu to philly, its ~120 roundtrip, with an hour train from philly to AC for 7 bucks.

3/8/2010 11:27:07 PM

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double post

[Edited on March 9, 2010 at 12:18 PM. Reason : ]

3/9/2010 12:18:14 PM

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I might try playing a tournament next time I'm in Vegas. I think I'd rather be water boarded than play any more ring games.

3/9/2010 12:18:39 PM

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Yeh I dunno my last few live experiences I always leave saying "i'm never doing this again". Whether it's been a $60 or a $1000 MTT or 1/2 vs. 5/10. I just can't get into it too much, I hate dealing with the people. Granted there's def no argument that it's more profitable (in terms or ROI or bb/100), i'd prefer just to have 15x the hourly and not have to deal w/ all the retards.

3/9/2010 2:15:39 PM

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I get bored as hell. My phone died all 3 days b/c of internet usage. It's even worse when the service sucks. As stated earlier, the service at the Wynn sucked big time. That was also the tightest place I played, but may have just gotten stuck at a bad table.

3/9/2010 2:30:38 PM

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How do you guys play with a big stack in tournaments? Do you tighten up and try to play big hands or play more aggressively closer to the button? When I do find myself with a big stack it's hard to maintain it and I'm not sure why.

3/9/2010 4:35:48 PM

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If you fold here you should just stop playing forever...

PokerStars Game #40930700103: Tournament #251089724, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2010/03/09 21:26:11 ET
Table '251089724 15' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: denisekeenan (1155 in chips)
Seat 2: off it148 (1120 in chips)
Seat 3: Wansoongie (1340 in chips)
Seat 4: Shepherdvill (3140 in chips)
Seat 5: bruxelles28 (2135 in chips)
Seat 7: SAID22000 (1660 in chips)
Seat 8: DogLips (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: SHWADE22 (1480 in chips)
DogLips: posts small blind 15
SHWADE22: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SHWADE22 [8s 9d]
denisekeenan: folds
off it148: calls 30
Wansoongie: folds
Shepherdvill: folds
bruxelles28: folds
SAID22000: calls 30
DogLips: folds
SHWADE22: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks Js Ah]
Gleisdreieck is connected
SHWADE22: checks
off it148: checks
SAID22000: checks
*** TURN *** [Ks Js Ah] [Qh]
SHWADE22: checks
off it148: checks
SAID22000: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks Js Ah Qh] [Tc]
SHWADE22: bets 1450 and is all-in
off it148: folds
SAID22000: calls 1450
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SHWADE22: shows [8s 9d] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
SAID22000: shows [Kc 5h] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
SHWADE22 collected 1503 from pot
SAID22000 collected 1502 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3005 | Rake 0
Board [Ks Js Ah Qh Tc]
Seat 1: denisekeenan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: off it148 folded on the River
Seat 3: Wansoongie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Shepherdvill folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bruxelles28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SAID22000 (button) showed [Kc 5h] and won (1502) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 8: DogLips (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: SHWADE22 (big blind) showed [8s 9d] and won (1503) with a straight, Ten to Ace

3/9/2010 9:29:06 PM

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only bad thing is that nobody raised the pot before then. What an idiot!

3/9/2010 9:49:09 PM

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