this has come to be so standard for me...

I just bubbled (or nearly bubbled) 5 tourneys in a row btw, and lost every single one with a coinflip like this...

Full Tilt Poker Game #13197668213: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (97837358), Table 3 - 300/600 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:01:16 ET - 2009/07/04
?Seat 1: piefr1 (8,000)
?Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (9,830)
?Seat 4: silversurfer7 (6,163)
?Seat 5: PeterPilz (8,595)
?Seat 6: DPTazzz (3,695)
?Seat 7: Daddy MoreBux (9,103)
?Seat 8: AriRunk (9,520)
?Seat 9: DiscoMary (12,594)
?nikedunklowpro posts the small blind of 300
?silversurfer7 posts the big blind of 600
?The button is in seat #1
?*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Ad Kd]
?PeterPilz folds
?DPTazzz: nh
?DPTazzz folds
?Daddy MoreBux folds
?AriRunk raises to 1,800
?DiscoMary has 15 seconds left to act
?DiscoMary folds
?piefr1 folds
?nikedunklowpro raises to 9,830, and is all in
?silversurfer7 folds
?AriRunk calls 7,720, and is all in
?nikedunklowpro shows [Ad Kd]
?AriRunk shows [9d 9c]
?Uncalled bet of 310 returned to nikedunklowpro
?*** FLOP *** [Qs 3c 9s]
?*** TURN *** [Qs 3c 9s] [9h]
?*** RIVER *** [Qs 3c 9s 9h] [Td]
?nikedunklowpro shows a pair of Nines
?AriRunk shows four of a kind, Nines
?AriRunk wins the pot (19,640) with four of a kind, Nines
?PeterPilz:
?*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19,640 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs 3c 9s 9h Td]
Seat 1: piefr1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (small blind) showed [Ad Kd] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 4: silversurfer7 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: PeterPilz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: DPTazzz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Daddy MoreBux didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: AriRunk showed [9d 9c] and won (19,640) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: DiscoMary didn't bet (folded)

7/4/2009 2:19:03 PM

I'm a mediocre player, just starting to learn how to bet "properly" with pot odds and all that, though I've done decently well in my weekly game. I only half understand people's irritation at players like me, who don't bet in line with what they have. But if the point of the game is to win everyone else's money through chance, why complain about "idiots" so much, idiots who now have your money? Some strategies may be better than others, but people can bet how they like: it's their money.

What is the best poker website for mediocre players looking to improve? Are they all about the same?

7/4/2009 3:08:15 PM

Quote :

"why complain about "idiots" so much, idiots who now have your money"

because sure, you have their money, but they know that eventually your mediocre style will cause you to lose and they won't be around to benefit from it. that's my reasoning for getting pissed off anyway...they'll just basically be donking my money off to someone else

[Edited on July 4, 2009 at 5:07 PM. Reason : .]

7/4/2009 5:05:51 PM

Quote :

"the point of the game is to win everyone else's money through chance"

That's not the point of the game.

7/5/2009 1:50:25 PM

^^exactly

7/5/2009 2:39:43 PM

I think I might play a live cash game this week for the first time all year. Should be interesting.

7/5/2009 2:46:46 PM

NeverScaredB: lick me in naughty places

I think I liked it better when people would just wish your family would die in a housefire.

7/5/2009 3:00:49 PM

and the fun begins

I thought pushing here instead of just raising would represent a weak hand, thoughts?

PokerStars Game #30126452060: Tournament #175252958, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2009/07/05 15:03:54 ET
Table '175252958 11' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jimmyforreal (10362 in chips)
Seat 2: donnysack (10715 in chips)
Seat 3: flpro157 (1980 in chips)
Seat 4: BluNTzz549 (12791 in chips)
Seat 5: NeverScaredB (14995 in chips)
Seat 6: kilphil1975 (5615 in chips)
Seat 7: od_jeb_i (26981 in chips)
Seat 8: mement_mori (10677 in chips)
Seat 9: david0603 (9634 in chips)
jimmyforreal: posts the ante 25
donnysack: posts the ante 25
flpro157: posts the ante 25
BluNTzz549: posts the ante 25
NeverScaredB: posts the ante 25
kilphil1975: posts the ante 25
od_jeb_i: posts the ante 25
mement_mori: posts the ante 25
david0603: posts the ante 25
david0603: posts small blind 150
jimmyforreal: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Kh Ks]
donnysack: folds
flpro157: folds
BluNTzz549: raises 525 to 825
NeverScaredB: folds
kilphil1975: folds
od_jeb_i: folds
mement_mori: folds
david0603: raises 8784 to 9609 and is all-in
jimmyforreal: folds
BluNTzz549: calls 8784
*** FLOP *** [6d Qc Jh]
*** TURN *** [6d Qc Jh] [3h]
od_jeb_i said, "wow"
*** RIVER *** [6d Qc Jh 3h] [2d]
BluNTzz549 said, "weee"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
david0603: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
BluNTzz549: shows [Qs Qh] (three of a kind, Queens)
BluNTzz549 collected 19743 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19743 | Rake 0
Board [6d Qc Jh 3h 2d]
Seat 1: jimmyforreal (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: donnysack folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: flpro157 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BluNTzz549 showed [Qs Qh] and won (19743) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: NeverScaredB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: kilphil1975 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: od_jeb_i folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mement_mori (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: david0603 (small blind) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ]

7/5/2009 3:05:15 PM

Hey dman, what's up with all the 45 person turbos? Are those really a positive roi?

7/5/2009 3:13:30 PM

There are some hands that no matter what you do you are going to lose. If you min reraise he would shove or call. Seems like you go on some bad streaks.

7/5/2009 4:03:24 PM

fuck, hate it when table closes right after a hand

[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 4:23 PM. Reason : ]

7/5/2009 4:22:23 PM

first hand I play...so standard for how I run...

Full Tilt Poker Game #13218693447: $6 + $0.50 KO Sit & Go (97984017), Table 10 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:40:38 ET - 2009/07/05
?Seat 1: Texas_Lefty1 (6,390)
?Seat 2: bigbucks26 (3,045)
?Seat 3: guigui-thestar (3,000)
?Seat 4: nikedunklowpro (2,970)
?Seat 5: Arch4Fun (2,910)
?Seat 6: madhatter1962 (6,390)
?Seat 7: JonLines (3,000)
?Seat 8: bayboy70 (2,805)
?Seat 9: chris DU 84 (2,460)
?madhatter1962 posts the small blind of 15
?JonLines posts the big blind of 30
?The button is in seat #5
?*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Kh Kd]
?bayboy70 calls 30
?chris DU 84 calls 30
?Texas_Lefty1 calls 30
?bigbucks26 calls 30
?guigui-thestar calls 30
?nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
?nikedunklowpro raises to 360
?Arch4Fun raises to 690
?madhatter1962 folds
?JonLines folds
?bayboy70 folds
?chris DU 84 folds
?Texas_Lefty1 folds
?bigbucks26 folds
?guigui-thestar folds
?nikedunklowpro calls 330
?*** FLOP *** [5d 3h 3d]
?Arch4Fun: just u and me, low pro...
?nikedunklowpro checks
?Arch4Fun bets 2,220, and is all in
?nikedunklowpro calls 2,220
?Arch4Fun shows [As Ah]
?Arch4Fun: I own you
?nikedunklowpro shows [Kh Kd]
?*** TURN *** [5d 3h 3d] [Qc]
?*** RIVER *** [5d 3h 3d Qc] [8d]
?Arch4Fun shows two pair, Aces and Threes
?nikedunklowpro shows two pair, Kings and Threes
?Arch4Fun wins the pot (6,015) with two pair, Aces and Threes
?*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,015 | Rake 0
Board: [5d 3h 3d Qc 8d]
Seat 1: Texas_Lefty1 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: bigbucks26 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: guigui-thestar folded before the Flop
Seat 4: nikedunklowpro showed [Kh Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 5: Arch4Fun (button) showed [As Ah] and won (6,015) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 6: madhatter1962 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: JonLines (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: bayboy70 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: chris DU 84 folded before the Flop

[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM. Reason : /]

7/5/2009 4:50:47 PM

^also note the trash talking

7/5/2009 5:18:37 PM

Quote :

"I thought pushing here instead of just raising would represent a weak hand, thoughts?"

I agree. A smaller reraise would make your hand look more powerful. Pushing in that situation makes it much tougher to put you on a hand and it looks like a steal. You played it right and got a caller, just had bad luck.

7/5/2009 8:07:24 PM

wow. just wow. dude gets it all in and can't even beat the board.

Full Tilt Poker Game #13222803632: Table Jersey - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:11:24 ET - 2009/07/05
?Seat 1: venom59 ($13.30)
?Seat 2: truthisnow ($8.19)
?Seat 3: jjaammcc ($5.05)
?Seat 4: dadjon ($9.01)
?Seat 5: nikedunklowpro ($15)
?Seat 6: ozzzi69 ($17.44)
?Seat 7: Gilder1987 ($7.19)
?Seat 8: Muncey27 ($19.09)
?Seat 9: n0testin ($40.15)
?dadjon posts the small blind of $0.10
?nikedunklowpro posts the big blind of $0.25
?The button is in seat #3
?*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Kh Ks]
?ozzzi69 folds
?Gilder1987 folds
?Muncey27 calls $0.25
?n0testin calls $0.25
?venom59 calls $0.25
?truthisnow folds
?jjaammcc folds
?dadjon calls $0.15
?nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
?nikedunklowpro raises to $1.25
?Muncey27 calls $1
?n0testin folds
?venom59 calls $1
?dadjon folds
?*** FLOP *** [5c 4s 5h]
?nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
?nikedunklowpro bets $2
?Muncey27 calls $2
?venom59 folds
?*** TURN *** [5c 4s 5h] [4h]
?nikedunklowpro checks
?Muncey27 bets $8.25
?nikedunklowpro raises to $11.75, and is all in
?Muncey27 calls $3.50
?nikedunklowpro shows [Kh Ks]
?Muncey27 shows [3h 3c]
?*** RIVER *** [5c 4s 5h 4h] [Ac]
?nikedunklowpro shows two pair, Kings and Fives
?Muncey27 shows two pair, Fives and Fours
?nikedunklowpro wins the pot ($30.17) with two pair, Kings and Fives
?*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $31.75 | Rake $1.58
Board: [5c 4s 5h 4h Ac]
Seat 1: venom59 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: truthisnow didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: jjaammcc (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: dadjon (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: nikedunklowpro (big blind) showed [Kh Ks] and won ($30.17) with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 6: ozzzi69 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Gilder1987 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Muncey27 showed [3h 3c] and lost with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 9: n0testin folded before the Flop

7/5/2009 8:27:17 PM

wako_2416 (Observer): just got sucked out on lol..... with A8
against 88 i hit my A and rivers the last 8.....
@@@@@@@@@@
david0603: thats not a suckout
wako_2416 (Observer): how?
wako_2416 (Observer): i know i was underdog
wako_2416 (Observer): but after hitting the ace
chiefluvaho: u were way behind going in
wako_2416 (Observer): 2.27%
wako_2416 (Observer): way behind? i beg to differ mate liek a 38% shot
chiefluvaho: 70 to 30
wako_2416 (Observer): nah
wako_2416 (Observer): A8 spades
chiefluvaho: look it up
wako_2416 (Observer): 35%
wako_2416 (Observer): same thing
wako_2416 (Observer): lol
chiefluvaho: lol
wako_2416 (Observer): pretty sick though
wako_2416 (Observer): i feel sick

7/5/2009 8:36:16 PM

where's that quotes out of context thread....

7/5/2009 8:54:37 PM

standardd

Full Tilt Poker Game #13223807849: The Sunday Mulligan (94993810), Table 109 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:03:56 ET - 2009/07/05
Seat 1: J4d3dr4g0n (1,760)
Seat 2: charder30fanobv (4,732)
Seat 3: TakeItBack (2,120)
Seat 4: JACKFLUZIES (1,245)
Seat 5: david0603 (8,165)
Seat 6: nhungoc2 (2,975)
Seat 7: Euthanaces (6,040)
Seat 8: Avril Sharapova (1,640)
Seat 9: FromThaGroundUp (5,735)
J4d3dr4g0n posts the small blind of 80
charder30fanobv posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Kh As]
TakeItBack folds
JACKFLUZIES folds
david0603 raises to 400
nhungoc2 folds
Euthanaces folds
Avril Sharapova folds
FromThaGroundUp folds
J4d3dr4g0n raises to 1,760, and is all in
charder30fanobv has 15 seconds left to act
charder30fanobv folds
david0603 has 15 seconds left to act
david0603 calls 1,360
J4d3dr4g0n shows [Ad Kd]
david0603 shows [Kh As]
*** FLOP *** [2d Ts 3s]
*** TURN *** [2d Ts 3s] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [2d Ts 3s 8d] [Qd]
J4d3dr4g0n shows a flush, Ace high
david0603 shows Ace King high
J4d3dr4g0n wins the pot (3,680) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,680 | Rake 0
Board: [2d Ts 3s 8d Qd]
Seat 1: J4d3dr4g0n (small blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won (3,680) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: charder30fanobv (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: TakeItBack didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: JACKFLUZIES didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: david0603 showed [Kh As] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 6: nhungoc2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Euthanaces didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Avril Sharapova didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: FromThaGroundUp (button) didn't bet (folded)

7/5/2009 9:05:04 PM

Same fucking guy!!!

Full Tilt Poker Game #13223860413: The Sunday Mulligan (94993810), Table 109 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:06:36 ET - 2009/07/05
Seat 1: J4d3dr4g0n (3,680)
Seat 2: charder30fanobv (4,492)
Seat 3: TakeItBack (1,880)
Seat 4: JACKFLUZIES (1,245)
Seat 5: david0603 (6,245)
Seat 6: nhungoc2 (2,975)
Seat 7: Euthanaces (6,040)
Seat 8: Avril Sharapova (2,120)
Seat 9: FromThaGroundUp (5,735)
david0603 posts the small blind of 80
nhungoc2 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [Ac Ad]
Euthanaces folds
Avril Sharapova folds
FromThaGroundUp folds
J4d3dr4g0n has 15 seconds left to act
J4d3dr4g0n has requested TIME
J4d3dr4g0n raises to 400
charder30fanobv folds
TakeItBack folds
JACKFLUZIES folds
david0603 has 15 seconds left to act
david0603 raises to 1,120
nhungoc2 has 15 seconds left to act
nhungoc2 folds
J4d3dr4g0n has 15 seconds left to act
J4d3dr4g0n raises to 3,680, and is all in
david0603 calls 2,560
J4d3dr4g0n shows [Kh Kc]
david0603 shows [Ac Ad]
*** FLOP *** [5s 7h Ks]
*** TURN *** [5s 7h Ks] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [5s 7h Ks 5d] [2d]
J4d3dr4g0n shows a full house, Kings full of Fives
david0603 shows two pair, Aces and Fives
J4d3dr4g0n wins the pot (7,520) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,520 | Rake 0
Board: [5s 7h Ks 5d 2d]
Seat 1: J4d3dr4g0n showed [Kh Kc] and won (7,520) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
Seat 2: charder30fanobv didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: TakeItBack didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: JACKFLUZIES (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: david0603 (small blind) showed [Ac Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 6: nhungoc2 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Euthanaces didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Avril Sharapova didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: FromThaGroundUp didn't bet (folded)

7/5/2009 9:08:19 PM

Very unlucky as of late.

7/5/2009 10:02:26 PM

Finally put a bad beat on someone. First < 49% chance hand I've won all night.

7/5/2009 10:08:25 PM

^those were some sick beats btw


I hate spots like this...it's such an awkward bet that I don't know what to make of it. Please advise...

I ended up folding because the way I'm running it really doesn't matter what I get it in with...

Full Tilt Poker Game #13224805776: Table Los Angeles - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:54:01 ET - 2009/07/05
?Seat 1: Sr_Roberto ($13.17)
?Seat 2: Zver001 ($10.16)
?Seat 3: tmac1balla1 ($35.26)
?Seat 4: nikedunklowpro ($26.59)
?Seat 5: zip23 ($25)
?Seat 6: ab380301311 ($26.85)
?Seat 7: ScuupDawg ($27.63)
?Seat 8: matiazf87 ($5)
?Seat 9: PPokerVU ($9.95)
?matiazf87 posts the small blind of $0.10
?PPokerVU posts the big blind of $0.25
?The button is in seat #7
?*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Qc Qh]
?Sr_Roberto folds
?Zver001 folds
?tmac1balla1 raises to $0.85
?nikedunklowpro calls $0.85
?zip23 folds
?ScuupDawg has been disconnected
?ab380301311 raises to $5.50 <------------------WTF
?ScuupDawg has 15 seconds left to act
?ScuupDawg has timed out
?ScuupDawg folds
?ScuupDawg is sitting out
?matiazf87 folds
?matiazf87 adds $0.10
?PPokerVU folds
?tmac1balla1 folds
?nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
?nikedunklowpro folds
?Uncalled bet of $4.65 returned to ab380301311
?ab380301311 mucks
?ab380301311 wins the pot ($2.90)
?*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.90 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Sr_Roberto didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Zver001 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: tmac1balla1 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: nikedunklowpro folded before the Flop
Seat 5: zip23 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: ab380301311 collected ($2.90), mucked
Seat 7: ScuupDawg (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: matiazf87 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: PPokerVU (big blind) folded before the Flop

[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 10:11 PM. Reason : /]

[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 10:15 PM. Reason : /]

7/5/2009 10:09:36 PM

Man, I hate those too. I see a lot of people bet big with mid pocket pairs preflop since they don't know how to play them postflop.

[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 10:13 PM. Reason : ]

7/5/2009 10:12:41 PM

^yeah my gut was telling me 10's or J's but I just couldn't pull the trigger, I'm running so bad lately I hate getting all my $ in preflop

7/5/2009 10:29:20 PM

Quote :

"Hey dman, what's up with all the 45 person turbos? Are those really a positive roi?"

Yeh they aren't hard, just giving them a try of late. Your ROI isn't as high generally as the 180s b/c the structure of the 180s is so top heavy, however i've read that because of the volume of 45s you can play your hourly can actually be a bit higher.

I ran like hot fire today, I think from what i've read maybe 40-50% ROI long term in these things is about as solid as to be expected. But just as an example, here are my numbers for today. You can definitley make some cash money playing them, as all I played today when trying them out was $6 and $12s.



[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 11:42 PM. Reason : sp]

7/5/2009 11:42:14 PM

Well I finished 14th in the MSOP Main Event on Full Tilt. Made a really terrible call to bust. I hadnt had a hand for about a hour and hoped we were flipping.

Here is the final hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #13227605676: MSOP Main Event (92930671), Table 204 - 25000/50000 Ante 6000 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:31:29 ET - 2009/07/06
Seat 1: essayEm (3,091,126)
Seat 2: nm_21 (1,118,607)
Seat 3: Diseased Degen (1,541,043)
Seat 4: bjfaber (1,034,787)
Seat 5: Mr Grapfruit (1,683,684)
Seat 6: BtCh I MiTe Be (4,171,131)
Seat 7: Vizzle34 (344,586)
essayEm antes 6,000
nm_21 antes 6,000
Diseased Degen antes 6,000
bjfaber antes 6,000
Mr Grapfruit antes 6,000
BtCh I MiTe Be antes 6,000
Vizzle34 antes 6,000
essayEm posts the small blind of 25,000
nm_21 posts the big blind of 50,000
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bjfaber [9d 9s]
Diseased Degen folds
bjfaber raises to 150,000
Mr Grapfruit has 15 seconds left to act
Mr Grapfruit calls 150,000
BtCh I MiTe Be folds
Vizzle34 folds
essayEm calls 125,000
nm_21 raises to 1,112,607, and is all in
bjfaber has 15 seconds left to act
bjfaber calls 878,787, and is all in
Mr Grapfruit folds
essayEm folds
nm_21 shows [Ah Ad]
bjfaber shows [9d 9s]
Uncalled bet of 83,820 returned to nm_21
*** FLOP *** [2d 3s 2c]
*** TURN *** [2d 3s 2c] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [2d 3s 2c Jc] [6d]
nm_21 shows two pair, Aces and Twos
bjfaber shows two pair, Nines and Twos
nm_21 wins the pot (2,399,574) with two pair, Aces and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,399,574 | Rake 0
Board: [2d 3s 2c Jc 6d]
Seat 1: essayEm (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: nm_21 (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and won (2,399,574) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 3: Diseased Degen folded before the Flop
Seat 4: bjfaber showed [9d 9s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Twos
Seat 5: Mr Grapfruit folded before the Flop
Seat 6: BtCh I MiTe Be folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Vizzle34 (button) folded before the Flop

7/6/2009 12:37:48 AM

home game blinds 40/80 with 4 people left, on the button with AQs with rock image, push and BB calls with A6o. Flop two spades, turn a 6 and river a blank non spade. I really need to l2calculate m-zone IRL.

7/6/2009 12:39:08 AM

What?

7/6/2009 1:20:11 PM

People were getting bored, so I figured I would make a post oozing of ignorance.

It was a BS game without much structure, but I guess my M would have been around 6.6 and pushing there was acceptable. I think I was 70% PF and 90% after until the spiked 6 on 4th. But yeah, nothing to see here, move along.

</meaningless.rant>

7/6/2009 1:56:50 PM

I let this maniac steal a couple small pots off me and I finally caught a hand against him. Hilarity ensued...

Full Tilt Poker Game #13262819865: Table Green Lantern - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:02:24 ET - 2009/07/07
?Seat 1: swimmin4days ($11.59)
?Seat 2: Lament1 ($62.64)
?Seat 3: CARPmasi ($5)
?Seat 4: elduderin0187 ($38.11)
?Seat 5: bvrby ($9.25)
?Seat 6: biggysmalls316 ($15.08)
?Seat 7: Mraiserz ($26.63)
?Seat 9: nikedunklowpro ($16.62)
?nikedunklowpro posts the small blind of $0.10
?swimmin4days posts the big blind of $0.25
?The button is in seat #7
?*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Kc Ad]
?Lament1 folds
?CARPmasi folds
?elduderin0187 folds
?bvrby folds
?biggysmalls316 raises to $0.85
?nice2cu sits down
?nice2cu adds $25
?Mraiserz has 15 seconds left to act
?Mraiserz calls $0.85
?nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
?nikedunklowpro raises to $3.25
?swimmin4days folds
?biggysmalls316 calls $2.40
?Mraiserz folds
?*** FLOP *** [As 3d 4d]
?nikedunklowpro bets $3.75
?biggysmalls316 calls $3.75
?*** TURN *** [As 3d 4d] [7h]
?nikedunklowpro checks
?biggysmalls316 bets $8.08, and is all in
?nikedunklowpro calls $8.08
?biggysmalls316 shows [Ks Qs]
?nikedunklowpro shows [Kc Ad]
?*** RIVER *** [As 3d 4d 7h] [5s]
?biggysmalls316 shows Ace King high
?nikedunklowpro shows a pair of Aces
?nikedunklowpro wins the pot ($29.70) with a pair of Aces
?biggysmalls316 is sitting out
?*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $31.26 | Rake $1.56
Board: [As 3d 4d 7h 5s]
Seat 1: swimmin4days (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Lament1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: CARPmasi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: elduderin0187 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: bvrby didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: biggysmalls316 showed [Ks Qs] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 7: Mraiserz (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: nikedunklowpro (small blind) showed [Kc Ad] and won ($29.70) with a pair of Aces

7/7/2009 8:31:34 PM

Unbelievable I just can't win these fucking things. This is the first final table I've made this week in ~5 tournaments. 428 players, I get to the last fucking guy. This guy has been playing any two all game, tough to read but he is way too LAGGY to be a good player.

Stage #1760845931 Tourney ID 4448571 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 5,000 - 2009-07-08 00:53:48 (ET)
Table: 50 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - FLOCKFOCKEY (500,571 in chips)
Seat 9 - RALLYDURHAM (141,429 in chips)
FLOCKFOCKEY - Ante 500
RALLYDURHAM - Ante 500
FLOCKFOCKEY - Posts small blind 2,500
RALLYDURHAM - Posts big blind 5,000
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to RALLYDURHAM [10c As]
FLOCKFOCKEY - Raises 7,500 to 10,000
RALLYDURHAM - Raises 25,000 to 30,000
FLOCKFOCKEY - Calls 20,000
*** FLOP *** [5d 9c 6h]
RALLYDURHAM - Checks
FLOCKFOCKEY - Bets 30,500
RALLYDURHAM - All-In(Raise) 110,929 to 110,929
FLOCKFOCKEY - Calls 80,429
*** TURN *** [5d 9c 6h] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [5d 9c 6h Ks] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FLOCKFOCKEY - Shows [Qs 7s] (Straight, five to nine)
RALLYDURHAM - Shows [10c As] (ace high)
FLOCKFOCKEY Collects 282,858 from main pot
FLOCKFOCKEY Collects Bounty Prize of $2
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(282,858)
Board [5d 9c 6h Ks 8h]
Seat 2: FLOCKFOCKEY (dealer) (small blind) won Total (282,858) HI282,858) with Straight, five to nine [Qs 7s - B:9c,B:8h,P:7s,B:6h,B:5d] BOUNTY awarded: ($2)
Seat 9: RALLYDURHAM (big blind) HI:lost with ace high [10c As - P:As,B:Ks,P:10c,B:9c,B:8h]




2nd place is $145 on a $4 tourney so yeah the ROI is incredible (I have to be at like 1,000% the past week in these things with two second places, a third, and 8th in only 10 tournaments) but I want to win a tournament, not cash in it.

[Edited on July 8, 2009 at 1:01 AM. Reason : FUCK]

7/8/2009 12:58:15 AM

played in a game last night where I managed to have to 2 guys all in PF who both had pocket 9's and I had pocket aces. One of the pocket 9's hit a flush. There may be a longer shot to win, but that one is close.

7/8/2009 9:54:06 AM

assuming the 99 that won had neither of your suits (would have highest winning %), it's

as ah %win 95.18
9s 9h 0.02
9c 9d 2.33


that's not as bad as i expected

7/8/2009 10:09:12 AM

I had one suit from each of the 9's...so they had a little over a 1% chance of winning, but a 2.5% of chopping it. Having pocket 10's in that situation is slightly better, but their percentage of winning is the same.

7/8/2009 12:00:56 PM

wtf ftp, wtf...

Nothing works with their new update

7/8/2009 8:59:01 PM

I had a fantastic hand on Sunday, started with pocket 8s and ended up with a full house against trip Qs and two pair (As and Qs). There was close to $20 in that pot.

7/8/2009 11:50:10 PM

I haven't played much live poker in the last few years but I just got back from a cruise where they had one electronic table, and I played I think 4 nights and ended up +$500 over probably 10 hours of play at $1/$2. Would have been much better had I not lost a $400 hand where I flopped a straight and put a guy all-in who had flopped bottom set..... of course he hit his boat, but I wasn't too distraught on the call. There was no way the guy was laying down anything, much less a set, so no biggie.

I would say out of about 20 people who played regularly there were maybe 3 others who had even a slight clue about how to play the game. These people were there to gambool, that is for sure. There was no way to put anyone on a hand pre-flop, but post flop they might as well have played with their cards face up.

There was a group of people (all absolutely atrocious players) who refered to themselves as "The Pros." This was very ironic because not a single one of them was positive over the cruise. They ALL attributed it to the table being unfair and that the cards would vary as to create action at the table. They said it was impossible to win, so they started a live game 9 floors up. It was funny just how bad these people were, and even funnier how they just didn't know it.

One of the guys said he had a read on me because "I always went all-in preflop when i had AA." This stemmed from a hand where I limped in early position, a guy raised it, got 5 callers, it came around to me and I shoved (at this point the shove was about the size of the pot). So hence, I always just go all-in if I had AA. Great read pal.

Another great moment was when one of "The Pros" started complaining about how much the rake was. I think it was 10% up to $7 a pot, and at about 25 hands/hour it ended up being about the full $175 based on average pot size. Based on this they figured everyone payed about $20/hour to play. I kinda chuckled to myself because what he didn't realize was that he (and many others) were paying closer to $30+ an hour because they called EVERY hand. They were looking at their hand and almost every one of "The Pros" was playing 80%+ of the hands. One of them even played 93% at one point. Now I am not saying there aren't people out there who can play many hands and be successful, but let me tell you these guys were not one of them.

Personally I was playing about 15% of the hands, raising really aggressively with good hands and calling on un-raised pots with low pocket pairs, suited connectors, etc. I think I probably payed about $5 rake per hour. I just sat back, occasionally listened to my Ipod, read Bluff magazine (gg Jon Turner ranked 12 of all online players) and listened to "The Pros". Was a nice week.

7/11/2009 9:06:46 PM

Nice. What cruise line?

7/12/2009 12:13:30 AM

Carnival

It was a lot of fun. We got back this morning and they were boarding people to go back and do the exact same itenerary as we had just finished. Eight days, 3 stops.... the Bahamas (x2) and Grand Turk. I had an awesome time but it really got myself itching to play more cards.

7/12/2009 12:41:44 AM

Sweet. I'm cruising with them in 2 weeks.

7/12/2009 2:03:59 AM

Yeah Carnival has the PokerPro tables which are the same as the poker room at xcalibur. I played on a cruise a few years ago and had the same experience. Won about $1200 in ~10-15 hours...

Im pretty sure the company who designs those is based out of charlotte. Would be pretty nice to buy a table and throw it in an empty bedroom. Table would pay for itself very quickly.

The rake is way too high though when you play shorthanded. Last time I played we were getting in 60 hands an hour which was nice but this was with pretty serious players not a cruiseline game.


I've definitely considered just living on a cruiseboat for a couple of months and smoking these games but I think it would get old eventually.

[Edited on July 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM. Reason : a]

7/12/2009 2:01:08 PM

What games do you typically play online now?

7/12/2009 2:12:10 PM

I don't even know why I waste my time playing microstakes MTT's, it's impossible to win when you play against people that don't even have a clue what they're doing.

Full Tilt Poker Game #13372989762: $2 + 0.25 Sit & Go (99001751), Table 1 - 10/20 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:47:25 ET - 2009/07/13
Seat 1: Valeriy1 (1,490)
Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (1,250)
Seat 3: chagy101 (2,620)
Seat 4: ErockMN (1,300)
Seat 5: Mister Sambaya (1,380)
Seat 6: LuckIsALady2Nit (1,580)
Seat 7: springer101 (1,510)
Seat 8: Smergleah (970)
Seat 9: Oubou (1,400)
springer101 posts the small blind of 10
Smergleah posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [As Kd]
Oubou has 15 seconds left to act
Oubou has timed out
Oubou folds
Oubou is sitting out
Valeriy1 folds
Oubou has returned
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to 80
chagy101 folds
ErockMN calls 80
Mister Sambaya folds
LuckIsALady2Nit folds
springer101 calls 70
Smergleah calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ad Qs 5d]
springer101 has 15 seconds left to act
springer101 checks
Smergleah checks
nikedunklowpro bets 200
ErockMN has 15 seconds left to act
ErockMN calls 200
springer101 folds
Smergleah calls 200
*** TURN *** [Ad Qs 5d] [8c]
Smergleah checks
nikedunklowpro bets 970, and is all in
ErockMN raises to 1,020, and is all in
Smergleah folds
ErockMN shows [Th Js]
nikedunklowpro shows [As Kd]
Uncalled bet of 50 returned to ErockMN
*** RIVER *** [Ad Qs 5d 8c] [Kc]
ErockMN shows a straight, Ace high
nikedunklowpro shows two pair, Aces and Kings
ErockMN wins the pot (2,860) with a straight, Ace high
nikedunklowpro stands up

7/13/2009 6:57:36 PM

I pray for such a turn call. Easy money imo.

(Usually)

7/13/2009 7:07:15 PM

Yeah, same here. Wonder if I could get 50% roi playing 20 of those an hour.

7/13/2009 7:21:53 PM

Lol I would hope so.

7/13/2009 8:32:23 PM

FTP games are soooo juicy right now with the 5x promo.

7/14/2009 9:25:41 PM

i almost threw up...thank god we werent playing for higher stakes


PokerStars Game #30477120124: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/07/15 1:20:18 ET
Table 'Fantasia' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: adamlaytatst ($15.85 in chips)
Seat 2: iboos ($10 in chips)
Seat 3: cookey00 ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 4: azbiN5 ($9.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Karamazov22 ($23.40 in chips)
Seat 6: ramoss11 ($6.45 in chips)
Seat 7: MIKLYXA77 ($4.30 in chips)
Seat 8: pirko ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 9: willygdub ($18 in chips)
adamlaytatst: posts small blind $0.10
iboos: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to adamlaytatst [Qs Qh]
cookey00: folds
azbiN5: calls $0.25
Karamazov22: folds
ramoss11: raises $1.75 to $2
MIKLYXA77: folds
pirko: folds
willygdub: folds
adamlaytatst: raises $2 to $4
iboos: folds
azbiN5: folds
ramoss11: raises $2.45 to $6.45 and is all-in
adamlaytatst: calls $2.45
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6d 4d]
*** TURN *** [Ah 6d 4d] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [Ah 6d 4d Td] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
adamlaytatst: shows [Qs Qh] (three of a kind, Queens)
ramoss11: shows [6s 3d] (a flush, Queen high)
ramoss11 collected $12.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.40 | Rake $0.65
Board [Ah 6d 4d Td Qd]
Seat 1: adamlaytatst (small blind) showed [Qs Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: iboos (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: cookey00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: azbiN5 folded before Flop
Seat 5: Karamazov22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ramoss11 showed [6s 3d] and won ($12.75) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 7: MIKLYXA77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: pirko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: willygdub (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

7/15/2009 1:27:09 AM

dang...also just folded 46 preflop. flop was 666

7/15/2009 2:53:06 AM

^^ that's pretty gross.

7/15/2009 8:39:49 AM