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seedless
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^^^^ i am not feeling your point. you fail to remember ITS ONLY A GAME.

i only did the n00b combo once just for the fun of it, and that was it. it is fun, just try it once.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MVLgRPZICs

[Edited on October 21, 2007 at 11:37 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/21/2007 11:33:35 AM

ncsu919
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im saying the combo is good. if it helps you kill the person that much easier, it's smart.

10/21/2007 1:53:03 PM

SipnOnSyzurp
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i hate valhalla

10/21/2007 3:07:51 PM

Fry
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just because some combo works that doesn't make it fun. Lo2 had a great balance except that bunch of crap. it was always fun killin all the little noobers that don't know how to do anything else, but in the end it was just annoying

10/21/2007 3:56:51 PM

JTHelms
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what is this combo that you speak of?

[Edited on October 21, 2007 at 4:15 PM. Reason : .]

10/21/2007 4:15:27 PM

parsonsb
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plasma pistol charged up

fire it and change to battle rifle

the charged shot takes down shields

the battle rifle kills them

10/21/2007 4:31:20 PM

jdbyrd
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you can tell they tried to tone it down a lot though because now you can't just run around with the plasma pistle charged the entire time, b/c the energy slowly drops on it the longer you have it charged...this means that to conserve energy you'd have to wait till you anticipate some1, then charge it, then use the combo...which makes you vulnerable to any random attacker. Also the ball of energy doesn't follow you around like mentioned above...in lo2 the damned thing would follow you around corners and hone straight to you...now it doesn't do that as much...at all...

10/21/2007 5:03:16 PM

jdbyrd
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oh...anyone know how to double shoot w/ the battle rifle anymore?

10/21/2007 5:04:11 PM

ThePeter
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as far as i can tell the plasma doesn't track, so the pistol is useless again except as a ghetto shotgun

although knocking out vehicles is pretty cool with it...too bad its hard to hit a banshee with it

10/22/2007 12:09:22 AM

jdbyrd
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^yeah...kinda hard to hit, but if you do hit it's almost a given kill b/c by the time the guy driving it figures out his ride is shot he's been a sitting duck for about 3 or 4 seconds...

10/22/2007 4:38:27 PM

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It still tracks a little bit, just enough to force someone to dodge, but not enough to rape people around corners.

And since double-shot was basically a glitch, and they tried to remove glitches from H3, don't bother trying to double-shoot.

10/22/2007 10:59:23 PM

sumfoo1
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wireing my house with gigabit ethernet this weekend... i'm convinced wireless is costing me frags
(i doubt the 360 supports gigabit but thats what i'm putting in soo we shall see)

10/22/2007 11:52:01 PM

davidkunttu
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has anyone had an issue with joining someone's party and getting some error saying the router you are trying to connect to isn't setup right? both of us have open nat's but we can't connect and i couldn't find anything on the bungie site or the xbox site to help. any ideas?

10/23/2007 3:52:53 AM

JTMONEYNCSU
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yea i get that error with trying to join one of my friends online cause the router im on is NAT moderate(i share internet with guy next door, so i cant really just go fix it)...but i can join games with all my other friends. its retarded

10/23/2007 2:43:59 PM

mildew
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There is nothing like killing the engine of a warthog with a power drain and the raping everyone stuck inside.

10/23/2007 4:39:04 PM

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Quote :
"has anyone had an issue with joining someone's party and getting some error saying the router you are trying to connect to isn't setup right? both of us have open nat's but we can't connect and i couldn't find anything on the bungie site or the xbox site to help. any ideas?"


yea that was garbage last night

but i actually found out that i am running off of my neighbor's wireless connection. That may be the problem, but I doubt it because it is still configured for Open Nat

i guess i could try hooking straight up to the wall but i'm gonna need like a 25' ethernet cable

10/23/2007 6:29:32 PM

jdbyrd
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where are all the trip mines? I haven't found that many at all playing multiplayer and am just wondering where they would be on different maps...

10/23/2007 7:26:45 PM

ThePeter
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the only mines i have seen are on sand trap and valhalla, neither of which really get a good benefit from them

10/23/2007 7:46:14 PM

jdbyrd
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I can think of several places to put them on lockout

10/23/2007 7:59:57 PM

Fry
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lockout doesn't exist in halo 3

yeah sand trap and valhalla are the only maps i know of that carry em... they need to put more weapons on these maps (aka incendiary(sp?) grenades, fuel rod gun, and more flamethrowers, and a dang hornet and gauss hog would be fantastic)

10/23/2007 8:52:09 PM

guitarguy
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what about incendiary grenades in multiplayer? ive never seen any

10/23/2007 9:04:16 PM

jdbyrd
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^ couldn't agree more...def. need more diversity...the only think I can think of is that they will eventually add more diversity on the newer maps to kinda make people think they are really experiencing something new even though they've had the same weapons, just haven't used them...

...and yeah I was thinking snowbound...I guess snow made me think of lockout...

10/23/2007 9:05:31 PM

ncsuftw1
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they need to start adding playlists

10/23/2007 9:20:43 PM

jdbyrd
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^ and MAPS!!!!




can't win em all

10/23/2007 11:52:42 PM

tromboner950
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For those wanting more variety in weapons and maps...

If you haven't seen the major-league rules/map release, they basically took out any weapon that added diversity and depth to the gameplay and tried to turn it into the battle-rifle-fest that was Halo 2. Needless to say I will be playing MLG rules as little as possible.

10/24/2007 3:02:14 AM

ncsu919
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^it is b/c it is the gametypes that take the most skill.

10/24/2007 10:02:39 AM

tromboner950
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^If you mean that MLG playstyle takes the most skill, the flaw in reasoning here is that "skill" = "aim", when really "skill" = "a combination of both aiming/shooting ability and the ability to think through the strategy of a situation". At least that's the way I see it.

Now, I haven't got a problem with MLG's reasoning behind removing maulers... they're a quick way for people who suck to get kills. But there's no good reason to take out things like the brute shot.

The best thing would be to just turn off the ability to dual wield (if that were possible), then just leave the weapons as normal. 1 plasma rifle or 1 mauler isn't really tough to beat, unless someone outplays you from the standpoint of positioning.

10/24/2007 10:14:44 AM

aaronian
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taking out maulers is foolish to me. it's worse than a shotgun.

10/24/2007 10:16:50 AM

ThePeter
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^^^no, its the game type that is most aim intensive. the way i think of it, that game type just boils down to who gets the first shot off assuming both players will get all head shots, rather than taking advantage of the field to maximize the use of your weapon.

i don't see how the mauler is a weapon that lets people who suck get kills...almost the same thing as the shotgun.

10/24/2007 10:38:46 AM

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Regarding the melee attack, the last couple nights, i was playing a couple games in both ranked and social situations, and in cases where i was playing with guys far superior in skill/rank, it seemed like the one or two badass dudes getting all the kills ALWAYS beat me in melee v. melee confrontations, even when I clearly got off the first hit, and my shields were full, they'd survive the first smack and come back and kill me in one smack...

any idea why that happens? obviously they're good but i thought the attacks were supposed to be even, thus i can't understand why they would survive and i wouldnt?

placement of the attack on the body?

the only way to get a really accurate attack with melee would be to use something besides a controller so maybe thats what they're doing

10/24/2007 10:59:59 AM

ThePeter
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you can not one hit kill with a melee unless its an assassination. you could try watching the replay in theater and see how the fight went down

10/24/2007 11:12:29 AM

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I love the MLG guys who bitch about the sword or banshee being in a level. To me they are part of the game and easy to take out if you do not suck... What is the big deal if someone is using them? They are part of Halo, if you cannot fight against them you are not good at Halo

10/24/2007 11:37:28 AM

Slave Famous
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A melee is a melee as far as I know, doesn't matter where on the body you hit them. I think that some weapons have a stronger melee than others, like the brute shote with its blade and the spartan laser, so that might make some difference if its otherwise even.

What I do when I'm constantly getting jewed on melee's is fire a few shots, then charge like I'm gonna melee him. Then when he charges too, I back up real fast so he whiffs, then continue firing shots before he can get close enough to hit me. Sometimes the lunge on melee's is crazy though, so it doesn't work that often.

10/24/2007 11:39:57 AM

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From what I understand, a melee v melee is awarded to the person that has the most health

meaning if they pump 1 extra bullet into you, and you both melee at relatively the same time, he will win

doesn't matter if you hit 0.5 seconds before him, the formula they use will allow him to win

10/24/2007 1:12:23 PM

DeputyDog
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^^^interesting.

10/24/2007 1:34:27 PM

HUR
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on own w/ the battle rifle on that one big level with the creek and bases on each side.

10/24/2007 1:50:25 PM

ncsu919
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this is why MLG takes more skill period:

it takes teamwork first of all.
never is your strat to have an all out assault rifle duel in the middle on the map, thus making the BR a very good weapon to have.
also it prevents having ne real assault rifle attacks only to be killed by a guy sitting around a corner with a shottie or mauler <= no skill.
Also, when you spawn 20 feet or so next to a guy with a BR and you are there trying to long range assault rifle him...is it really that hard for the guy with the BR to kill you? again it is making it more fair and the skill involved increases.

unless you've actually played MLG and against other good people, you cant say much about it.

10/24/2007 3:03:38 PM

Fry
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the n00b combo is no skill as well.

MLG isn't that special. it's catered to those that love it and that's all. personally i like having more than just a BR. and for the record if you think the shottie and mauler give cheap kills... you can cherry pick all day with a BR from an even safer distance, i've seen it and done it more than enough

[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 3:20 PM. Reason : ]

10/24/2007 3:19:25 PM

Slave Famous
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Why would you play MLG rules if you weren't actually playing in the MLG aka for money?

They take most of the fun shit out of the game.

Thats like calling 3 second violations in pick up basketball games.

10/24/2007 3:19:46 PM

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no, that's why team slayer takes more skill

every map has certain strategies that work, such as making a bunker out of snowbound with short range to take advantage of guys who charge in there, while the counter strategy is to revert to medium range weapons and pull/force them out.

Also, getting spawn killed isn't fair no matter what weapon you start with unless you out play the other guy. Sure, starting with a BR evens it up a little bit, but the other guy will most likely get the jump on you, and he probably has a teammate with him anyway if he's playing MLG seriously.

just because you start with a BR doesn't mean it takes more skill to play the mode, it just takes more skill with the BR. last i checked there are a LOT more weapons in Halo 3. Just because you get killed with a shotty doesn't mean the other guy has no skill, it means you fell for the trap.

10/24/2007 3:22:01 PM

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I've been lagging SOOOO bad the last three days on this game. but, my connection is fine when its in my computer. it's making me very angry.

10/24/2007 5:40:28 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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^ive actually noticed a couple others who have had that problem too. not sure what the deal is

10/24/2007 5:48:18 PM

seedless
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ncsu919 i got a friend that i want you to play him one on one or him and his cousin in doubles - if you beat him/them i really will have mad respect for you. the dude is off the rockers.

[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 6:04 PM. Reason : sdtg]

10/24/2007 6:04:45 PM

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http://www.mlgpro.com/?q=node/164811

Tactical Jumps
Haven't been able to watch this yet, but there's a lot of fuss over it.

10/24/2007 6:06:11 PM

aaronian
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^ wow. simply amazing. those guys are halo movement masters

10/24/2007 6:13:40 PM

seedless
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thats looks cool and all but you would have to be hard press to actually want to use those jumps, and not only that they make you a sitting duck when you try them and in the mist of battle they would be hard to pull off. in short, they are bitch moves.

[Edited on October 24, 2007 at 6:15 PM. Reason : sdfg]

10/24/2007 6:15:20 PM

Fry
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gotta be honest, the jumps look flippin awesome lol

10/24/2007 7:53:40 PM

jdbyrd
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they were walking on the walls...that is crazy...half of them I wouldn't try in guardian b/c of the chance of dying...but there were def. tight

10/24/2007 7:58:33 PM

ThePeter
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ho-ly shit

i am going to try these out

its like the new super jumps...bad?

10/24/2007 11:53:39 PM

HUR
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Quote :
"Also, getting spawn killed isn't fair no matter what weapon you start with unless you out play the other guy"


speaking of spawn killing on that one map with the two bunkers and creek i got run over by the other teams jeep in middle of map. sure enough i spawned at my base and the jeep was right fucking in front of me. needless to say i didn't stand much chance against the gunner in the back.

10/25/2007 12:54:09 AM

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