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8/20/2007 2:51:29 PM

haha we allgot on at the exact same time ! looks like it's true


vick plead guilty to dogfighting charges this morning, incase i was vague


breaking news on sportscenter

http://espn.go.com/

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 2:53 PM. Reason : front page]

8/20/2007 2:51:50 PM

If he gets the same damn punishment as Chris Henry did (8 games for multiple traffic and 2 Marijuana charges), I am gonna be pissed.

No way he plays this season.

I put my TWW account on it.

8/20/2007 3:00:43 PM

if he plead guilty and goes back to court next Monday, is that it-time for the clink?

8/20/2007 3:03:26 PM

wouldn't he want to go to jail ASAP and get it out of the way?

8/20/2007 3:03:27 PM

max for federal conspiracy is 5 years

they're saying he'll likely get between 18 and 36 months depending

looks like he'll be playing for the mean machine over the next few seasons

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 3:05 PM. Reason : *]

8/20/2007 3:05:14 PM

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"No way he plays this season"

fucking duuuuuuuuuuuuuur right there

8/20/2007 3:05:26 PM

haha. golden god my ass

8/20/2007 3:05:27 PM

hey guys, rally was fucking with everybody in this thread.... all that shit about "bounceback year" and "more appropriate 4 game suspension" and even the "golden god" was just sarcasm

go back and look at what he said about the dog fighting charges when they first came out...

8/20/2007 3:10:57 PM

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"they're saying he'll likely get between 18 and 36 months depending looks like he'll be playing for the mean machine over the next few seasons "

The sentence will probably be about a year. Prosecutors were going for 18-36, but defense lawyers were trying to get it down to 6 months. They met somewhere in the middle.

8/20/2007 3:12:09 PM

thanks Gunzz.

That post was actually in response to this post at the bottom of page 25

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"i hope he doesn't play this season... 8 games at the bare minimum. I accept he'll probably be back but damn."

Thanks for being a dick about it though.

8/20/2007 3:12:10 PM

lock thread

he's done with football

8/20/2007 3:14:08 PM

Look at the bright side Falcons fans, you got Joey Harrington over the offseason.

8/20/2007 3:15:53 PM

yeah that shawb (sp?) deal is looking worse by the moment

8/20/2007 3:16:43 PM

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"hey guys, rally was fucking with everybody in this thread.... all that shit about "bounceback year" and "more appropriate 4 game suspension" and even the "golden god" was just sarcasm"

Bullshit. Rally has always had a man-crush on Vick, and the dogfighting charges only amplified his feelings because Rally likes a bad boy.

8/20/2007 3:17:50 PM

^^ yeah, I was just thinking the same thing.

and damnit get this shit off my tv. I'd rather watch the llws

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 3:22 PM. Reason : ]

8/20/2007 3:18:04 PM

Someone might know but for sure but doesn't pleading guilty make you uneligible for parole? You have to serve out your full sentence I think.

And prosecutors can recommend a sentence but the judge will decide how much time Vick will serve.

8/20/2007 3:50:55 PM

Mark it down, he will never play in the NFL again. He's a second tier QB right now, in 2-3 years (jail time and suspension) he'll be over 30, his skills will be significantly diminished, he'll have lost a good bit of his athleticism, and his familiarity with the game. Even if a team did sign him to a FA contract going into training camp he won't make the roster.

8/20/2007 3:57:04 PM

if the CFL will take Ricky Williams
will they take Vick also?

8/20/2007 3:59:34 PM

Michael Vick is gonna be a SUPERSTAR











...in the AFL








...in 2011

8/20/2007 4:02:12 PM

where the hell is that stupid bitch Howard

8/20/2007 4:02:12 PM

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"It's gonna be a long road for him to become a star quarterback again."

haha when was he ever a star qb to begin with?

8/20/2007 4:04:45 PM

Yea, they needed to get rid of him anyway. Wasnt ever going to pan out.

8/20/2007 4:05:59 PM

This is sort of a whole nine yards situation. Now we just need to get a prisoners vs guards game together and get somebody to put it on tv. Don't they actually have football teams in some prisons? I seem to recall one of those human interest stories on Sportscenter a few years ago on a prison football team in Texas I think. Of course, I know this has zero chance of happening, but it would be awesome.

8/20/2007 4:12:47 PM

^^^^Haven't heard from Howard since I posted this:

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"Vick is guilty. If he's completely exonerated, I'll never post on TWW again. If not, you should do the same. Put up or shut up."

I guess he wasn't as dumb as his posts made him out to be.

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : user]

8/20/2007 4:30:43 PM

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[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ..]

8/20/2007 4:57:08 PM

^^That is one league that Vick would dominate...maybe he was born to play prison yard football.

8/20/2007 4:57:37 PM

from Howard/Earl

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"People rarely-to-none serve prison time for dog fighting. People NEVER serve lengthy time for this matter. You've alread convicted this man in they eye of the public which is unfair. All the evidence have not been released. You haven't heard his defense!!! So stop this "he's going to jail crap". You make yourselves sound like negative blood thristy drama whores. What if you were in his situation? This could easily be a case where he just had the wrong circle of friends around him. It happens everyday."

8/20/2007 5:02:54 PM

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"The offense is punishable by up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, although federal sentencing guidelines most likely would call for less. Prosecutors, who were seeking a prison term of 12 to 18 months, have yet to formally agree to the plea, a source told ESPN's Kelly Naqi."

so ends the Micheal Vick saga, he'll bounce around trying to compete for a starting job on a weak team

looks like Vick never turned out to be what rallydurham thought he was cracked up to be

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 5:11 PM. Reason : k]

8/20/2007 5:10:57 PM

How does this affect the Salary Cap for the Falcons? Can a contract be terminated without having to take the hit in special circumstances?

8/20/2007 5:13:24 PM

They said on ESPN it won't be as bad as people think since they will more than likely be able to recoup any unearned bonus and salary.

8/20/2007 5:26:02 PM

joe horn is an idiot for trying to justify vick's actions as an "everyone makes mistakes" thing.


ATTN: Joe Horn...

executing and fighting dogs is not a "mistake".

its a major major major sick sick fucked up series of premeditated actions.

8/20/2007 5:30:02 PM

List of players and former players who have made an ass out of themselves trying to defend Vick:

Clinton Portis
Deion Sanders
Michael Irvin
Emmit Smith
Joe Horn

...

Who am I forgetting?

8/20/2007 5:36:49 PM

^Donovan McNabb

8/20/2007 5:39:28 PM

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"Mark it down, he will never play in the NFL again. He's a second tier QB right now, in 2-3 years (jail time and suspension) he'll be over 30, his skills will be significantly diminished, he'll have lost a good bit of his athleticism, and his familiarity with the game. Even if a team did sign him to a FA contract going into training camp he won't make the roster."

Someone will offer him a job. Bank on it.

8/20/2007 5:39:36 PM

Al Davis or Jerry Jones

The only owners crazy enough to gamble on him.

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" ”I’m a supporter of Vick,” McNabb said Tuesday at Lehigh University. “That’s because I’m a good friend of his and also we’re guys that obviously compete to win the Super Bowl. We push each other. Now, I don’t know exactly what happened in that situation, and I think for all of us that have read over the stuff that was over the Internet, the report, you look at it as kind of like, ‘Wow, you’ve got your so-called friends and family members turning their back on you now to make their situation better.’ They’re throwing you under the bus so that they can clean their name. That’s unfortunate. That goes to show, I always have a saying that I’ve always lived by: If you can’t trust family, who can you trust? It’s an unfortunate situation, and I just hope everything works out well for him where he can get back out on the field.” "As a football fraternity member, you just want those guys to have that opportunity to get back out there and maybe put that stuff behind them and change their life," McNabb said. "I think for some of the guys that have made the mistake and now that their season is taken away from them, the question goes out of what happens next. Because when some people get things like that taken away from them, they just continue to go down. You hope nothing but the best, that they've learned from their mistakes to move on where they can get back out on the field and play. Being suspended for a year? That's tough. That's tough. . . . You just want everything to kind of work out well for everybody, work out well for us as well as work out well for those guys." "

Donovan McNabb

I don't have a problem with that quote, especially since it was made before the most gruesome details of the case came to light.

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 5:44 PM. Reason : 2]

8/20/2007 5:40:29 PM

Who needs him? Seriously. Given what he's facing and what he did before now who would want him? Why would you wast your money on a 30 year old QB who just spent 1-2 years in jail, and a 1 year NFL suspension? He's not a good enough QB to offset the enormous amount of baggage he would bring with him.

It would take a nutty owner like Al Davis to do it, but considering how much money they're going to sink into JaMarcus Russell it's hard for me to imagine them bringing in another QB anytime soon, let alone a shitty one.

8/20/2007 6:10:45 PM

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"This is sort of a whole nine yards situation. Now we just need to get a prisoners vs guards game together and get somebody to put it on tv. Don't they actually have football teams in some prisons? I seem to recall one of those human interest stories on Sportscenter a few years ago on a prison football team in Texas I think. Of course, I know this has zero chance of happening, but it would be awesome."

Do you mean The Longest Yard or is Mike Vick gonna some how be Bruce Willis?

8/20/2007 6:16:24 PM

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"Who needs him? Seriously. Given what he's facing and what he did before now who would want him? Why would you wast your money on a 30 year old QB who just spent 1-2 years in jail, and a 1 year NFL suspension? He's not a good enough QB to offset the enormous amount of baggage he would bring with him. It would take a nutty owner like Al Davis to do it, but considering how much money they're going to sink into JaMarcus Russell it's hard for me to imagine them bringing in another QB anytime soon, let alone a shitty one."

There was 9-10 good QBs tops in a league that is very QB-centric, one of which was Vick. That's it. That's why someone will take him on a flier, it won't be Al Davis or Jerry Jones. It'll be some mediocre team that goes 6-10 every year, fans expect to lose, and the owner is hardly known by anyone.

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 6:19 PM. Reason : .]

8/20/2007 6:19:00 PM

jeeze after hearing joe horn this afternoon, he would have been better off not saying anything at all

8/20/2007 6:19:48 PM

Breaking news, Mike Vick was not, and will never be, a top 10 NFL QB.

8/20/2007 6:33:05 PM

dude picture the Special Edition ending of Return of the Jedi

where all the different worlds celebrate the fall of the Empire


now that is how good this feels

ESPN is going through clips of all of his SHIT from the past 6 years, every season at least one big thing has happened.

had it coming.........................10 strikes and your out

8/20/2007 6:59:44 PM

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"jeeze after hearing joe horn this afternoon, he would have been better off not saying anything at all"

what he say? I wasn't able to catch any espn til now

and cheerwhiner you're a fucking idiot, how does this make you feel good. unless youre a dipshit panthers fan who got tired of Vick raping your ass (hell i'ma bucs fan and he was a threat in the NFC South)

all that notwithstanding, I'll withhold judgment on this til i see exactly what he's pleading guilty to. Vick had no fucking choice but to plead guilty, cause you can't cop a plea pleading no contest, they had him hemmed up from the start, he's exactly the person the feds would want in a case like this, cause without Vick nobody would give a fuck. I know people involved in the shit and noones batting an eye at 'em.

just sucks another talented dude wasted gods gift over some dumb shit, and I'm tired of my people doing it to our fucking selves

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 7:05 PM. Reason : *just noticed you equated it to star wars, so your opinion is moot to me]

8/20/2007 7:04:06 PM

He had to plead guilty because he was guilty, and just because some people you know get away with dogfighting doesn't mean he got a raw deal.

8/20/2007 7:25:31 PM

cheerwhiner wins this thread with the Star Wars

8/20/2007 7:29:53 PM

he'll probably come back in a few years to Tampa Bay to rape the Panthers twice a year

course by that time he won't have as much speed and he relied so much on that that i don't see how he could even be as good as he already has been

8/20/2007 7:35:36 PM

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"He had to plead guilty because he was guilty, and just because some people you know get away with dogfighting doesn't mean he got a raw deal."

what happen to innocent until proven?

and never said he got a raw deal, just saying he's getting shitted on more because he is who he is. you know how often people cop pleas over shit?

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"he'll probably come back in a few years to Tampa Bay to rape the Panthers twice a year course by that time he won't have as much speed and he relied so much on that that i don't see how he could even be as good as he already has been"

ahahah, but he'll come out buff as shit

8/20/2007 7:41:14 PM

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"what happen to innocent until proven? "

yeah , why would he opt out of his trial

he has the right to a trial.....before we judge him.......durka durrrr

8/20/2007 7:43:11 PM

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"Vick had no fucking choice but to plead guilty, cause you can't cop a plea pleading no contest, they had him hemmed up from the start,"

8/20/2007 7:48:48 PM

i dont understand why an innocent man plead guilty for anything

he should be able to afford a decent law team

take that shit to trial

8/20/2007 7:57:31 PM