Also Googled this:

Another lobby conversation came up on odds of certain hands. In this case the conversation went something like...


AA vs KK comes up too often here.
How often does it happen?
Once in every 54 hands


Well, there's a lot of missing information here.

There was also a quiz on the WPT series (I think it was the one at the Aviation Club in Paris, where Tony G really mouthed off). The question was something like...

You are all-in with pocket Kings at a six-player table. What are the odds that one of your opponents holds Aces?
I don't remember all the possible answers, but the common guesses are...
48,840 to 1
220 to 1
44 to 1

Their answer was 44:1, but it's actually wrong (But not off by much).

Misconception #1 - Odds of any particular pocket pair is 1/221 or 220:1, so the odds of KK vs AA must be 1/221 * 1/221 = 1/48,841 or 48,840:1. Three problems here. It doesn't really matter what you have (As long as you don't hold an Ace), the question is what are the odds that your opponent is holding Aces. Secondly, this calcuation does not take into account the number of players at the table. The third we'll get to in a moment...
Misconception #2 - Odds of any particular pocket pair is 1/221 or 220:1, so the odds of an opponent having AA is 220:1. Two problems here. Again, the number of opponents is not taken into consideration. The second will again, have to wait...
Misconception #3 - Odds of any particular pocket pair is 1/221 or 220:1, and there are five opponents that could have this hand. So 5/221 is 1/44.2, so the odds must be roughly 44:1. Finally we get to the problem...
A priori (Without any other information), the odds of any particular pocket pair are indeed 1/221. But you know your hand. Like I said before, it doesn't matter whether you hold KK or 72o, just as long as you aren't holding an Ace. Since you know two of the outstanding cards, you need to base the the odds on the cards still remaining, which is 50 unknown cards, not a full deck of 52.

Since there are only 50 unknown cards, each opponent has one of 1225 possible hands that you can't see. So 6/1225 = 0.49% and if you have 5 opponents, then the odds that any one of them has AA is 'roughly' 5 times that, namely 2.45% or 39.8:1.

At a 10-person table, the probability is 4.41% or roughly 23:1. So on average, once every 23 times you have KK at a 10-person table, you will be up against AA.

3/10/2009 3:19:58 AM

^A++ explanation, highly recommended, will read again!

3/10/2009 12:34:09 PM

I don't think I agree with the logic at the end about multiplying the number of people in the hand times .49%.

If you follow that logic, if you had 11 people in the hand then the odds would be 5.5%, and if somehow you could have 200 people in the hand, then the odds are 100% that one of those people would have AA. Obviously that isn't true. I don't think the relationship is linear, although it is obvious that the probability goes up as the number of people in the hand go up.

3/10/2009 1:48:26 PM

Shouldn't it be something like 1 - (220/221) ^ #ofplayers

3/10/2009 3:02:54 PM

If I could transport back in time 5 years to when I was taking stats I could give ya a for sure answer.

But if I could transport back in time that would mean I was really smart and had built a time machine, and I probably could just derive the formula on the spot with no need to transport. And if I were that smart I probably wouldn't be posting on here, so this thread would be a paradox in itself.... oh what a tangled web we weave.

3/10/2009 4:34:04 PM

Kind of a catch 22 you got yourself there Jim.

3/11/2009 11:32:46 AM

I wish I could go back in time and tell myself not to read that post

3/11/2009 3:58:16 PM

a funny quote from a table I was at

SLAWDAWG420: didnt wanna call then i saw he
was from france

3/14/2009 2:27:37 PM

gay.

Full Tilt Poker Game #11153580494: Table Hinson - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:37:58 ET - 2009/03/15
Seat 1: NolanVoyd ($25.35)
Seat 2: E_Baby_E ($25.70)
Seat 3: B_Simpson1927 ($99.50)
Seat 4: horaZulu17 ($50.75)
Seat 5: Ransit ($50)
Seat 6: bp-bass ($48.85)
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro ($51.90)
Seat 8: bagpipes23 ($16.20)
Seat 9: rich7381 ($20.90)
rich7381 posts the small blind of $0.25
NolanVoyd posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Js Jc]
E_Baby_E raises to $1
B_Simpson1927 has 15 seconds left to act
B_Simpson1927 folds
horaZulu17 calls $1
Ransit calls $1
bp-bass folds
nikedunklowpro calls $1
bagpipes23 calls $1
rich7381 calls $0.75
NolanVoyd folds
*** FLOP *** [Jh Qd 2c]
rich7381 checks
E_Baby_E checks
horaZulu17 checks
Ransit checks
nikedunklowpro bets $5
bagpipes23 raises to $15.20, and is all in
rich7381 folds
E_Baby_E raises to $24.70, and is all in
horaZulu17 adds $0.25
horaZulu17 folds
Ransit adds $1
Ransit folds
nikedunklowpro calls $19.70
E_Baby_E shows [2s 2d]
nikedunklowpro shows [Js Jc]
bagpipes23 shows [Jd Qc]
*** TURN *** [Jh Qd 2c] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Jh Qd 2c Qh] [Tc]
E_Baby_E shows a full house, Twos full of Queens
nikedunklowpro shows a full house, Jacks full of Queens
nikedunklowpro wins the side pot ($18.60) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
bagpipes23 shows a full house, Queens full of Jacks
bagpipes23 wins the main pot ($49.50) with a full house, Queens full of Jacks
E_Baby_E is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $71.10 Main pot $52.10. Side pot $19. | Rake $3
Board: [Jh Qd 2c Qh Tc]
Seat 1: NolanVoyd (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: E_Baby_E showed [2s 2d] and lost with a full house, Twos full of Queens
Seat 3: B_Simpson1927 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: horaZulu17 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Ransit folded on the Flop
Seat 6: bp-bass didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro showed [Js Jc] and won ($18.60) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 8: bagpipes23 (button) showed [Jd Qc] and won ($49.50) with a full house, Queens full of Jacks
Seat 9: rich7381 (small blind) folded on the Flop

3/15/2009 2:02:15 PM

gay.

Full Tilt Poker Game #11156544684: $50,000 Guarantee (82464139), Table 68 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:29:12 ET - 2009/03/15
Seat 1: PowerofdoubleDD (7,420)
Seat 2: StakAtax (6,080)
Seat 3: Devilchef (3,008)
Seat 4: Supa4real (5,625)
Seat 5: david0603 (2,765)
Seat 6: TheMcAnic (2,682)
Seat 7: RookieITB (4,570)
Seat 8: Capt_GB (2,735)
Seat 9: fuchsjagd (7,735)
TheMcAnic posts the small blind of 50
RookieITB posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to david0603 [As Qh]
Capt_GB folds
fuchsjagd folds
PowerofdoubleDD has 15 seconds left to act
PowerofdoubleDD folds
StakAtax has 15 seconds left to act
StakAtax folds
Devilchef folds
Supa4real folds
david0603 raises to 250
TheMcAnic raises to 2,682, and is all in
RookieITB folds
david0603 calls 2,432
TheMcAnic shows [Jh 9c]
david0603 shows [As Qh]
*** FLOP *** [9s 3c 7s]
*** TURN *** [9s 3c 7s] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [9s 3c 7s Kh] [7h]
TheMcAnic shows two pair, Nines and Sevens
david0603 shows a pair of Sevens
TheMcAnic wins the pot (5,464) with two pair, Nines and Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,464 | Rake 0
Board: [9s 3c 7s Kh 7h]
Seat 1: PowerofdoubleDD didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: StakAtax didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Devilchef didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Supa4real didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: david0603 (button) showed [As Qh] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 6: TheMcAnic (small blind) showed [Jh 9c] and won (5,464) with two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 7: RookieITB (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Capt_GB didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: fuchsjagd didn't bet (folded)

3/15/2009 4:32:36 PM

why?

3/15/2009 4:45:06 PM

i, too, hate losing races.

3/15/2009 5:22:23 PM

It was a 50+ bb race.

DudleyAR: come on man
DudleyAR: talk about my pokerskills
DudleyAR: but don't talk about them buckeyes
DudleyAR: you just done made this personal
DudleyAR: Ohio state is off limits here
david0603: Ohio state sucks

3/15/2009 6:22:27 PM

how much would you bet in this situation??? I figure I'm good here on the river, I put the first guy on KX and the second guy on Q10 (which I was wrong about). what is your value bet here???


Full Tilt Poker Game #11161845828: Table Lobster - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:20:57 ET - 2009/03/15
Seat 1: theduck53 ($12.30)
Seat 2: Rex Mundi 27 ($42.40)
Seat 3: 00-AshyLarry-00 ($50)
Seat 4: MTV OG ($15.60)
Seat 5: rooster667 ($52.05)
Seat 6: GrampaBird ($30.25)
Seat 7: nikedunklowpro ($22.95)
Seat 8: Luna et Stella5 ($50)
Seat 9: Duke1999 ($31.05)
MTV OG posts the small blind of $0.25
rooster667 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Ad 8d]
GrampaBird calls $0.50
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro calls $0.50
Luna et Stella5 folds
Duke1999 calls $0.50
theduck53 calls $0.50
Rex Mundi 27 calls $0.50
MTV OG folds
rooster667 checks
*** FLOP *** [7d Kd Jc]
rooster667 checks
GrampaBird bets $2
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to $4
Duke1999 calls $4
theduck53 folds
Rex Mundi 27 folds
rooster667 folds
GrampaBird calls $2
*** TURN *** [7d Kd Jc] [7h]
GrampaBird checks
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro checks
Duke1999 checks
*** RIVER *** [7d Kd Jc 7h] [9d]
GrampaBird checks
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro bets ? (there's roughly $15 in the pot at this point)

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 9:33 PM. Reason : /]

3/15/2009 9:32:00 PM

Dude.... I have no idea what happens in the hand, but chasing a flush after the board has already paired is a really bad play IMO, or considering raising unless you're really sure you have him beat. I could get into the min raise thing but I won't.

I mean, the guy could have called with K7 or J7 suited to "see a flop." I really am doubting 77.

Here's the range of hands that he might have.

AK: Highly doubtful because of lack of preflop raise.
KX: Perhaps....
K7 or J7, probably suited: Very possible.
KK or JJ: Very doubtful.
Q10: Perhaps he was chasing and hit his straight. I'd say this is somewhat likely.
77: Super duper doubtful.
JX: Maybe, but probably won't get much action on the river.
7X: Maybe.... this is best case scenario unless the X is a KJ9, because odds are he won't fold his 7.

Big picture, I doubt you will make any serious money from a value bet because weak hands will probably fold. The only action you're likely to see is from a full house who is excited you hit your flush and wants to cram it up your ass.

3/15/2009 9:44:37 PM

I min raised on the flop to get a cheap look at the turn and river (and possibly a fold from JX), and I don't know what you mean about chasing the flush cause the board didn't pair until the turn and I didn't call any bets on the turn, I just checked.

first guy had AK, second had J high flush

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM. Reason : /]

3/15/2009 10:05:09 PM

in general, min raise = reeeaally bad IMO

3/15/2009 11:03:14 PM

So.... Pokerstars has Badugi now. This should be entertaining.

3/16/2009 1:28:14 AM

^^I hear that all the time, but I have yet to hear a compelling reason not to

3/16/2009 10:04:02 AM

$9

3/16/2009 3:38:54 PM

- you can take the pot down right then, there is no reason for your opponent to fold a weak made hand if you only min raise. if he has air then he'd fold to min raise or more
- you will gain more info on your opponents hand
- you will create a larger pot for when you do hit your hand

[Edited on March 16, 2009 at 4:37 PM. Reason : .]

3/16/2009 4:36:56 PM

Well, you have to ask yourself what is the point of a raise?

1. To protect a strong hand that can be outdrawn.
2. To gain information about other hands.
3. To bluff and take a pot down.
4. To inflate the size of a pot that you know you will win.

A min raise doesn't accomplish any of these things. It's a horrible play and just about anyone who knows much of anything about poker will tell you that a min raise or reraise after the flop is pretty dumb.

3/16/2009 5:34:25 PM

I don't dislike a minraise every now and then at microstakes, but virtually never at anything higher.

3/16/2009 5:47:53 PM

I only min raise at certain times, and it has worked to my advantage far more than the standard 3X raise. If anything it gets people off their game since they don't know how to read it. I do a lot of things to switch up my game so people have a hard time reading me. I'm up about 500% right now off my last buy in, and was up about 400% when I cashed out last time, so it's not like I'm getting bad results. Now if only I could get better at MTT's...

3/16/2009 6:45:51 PM

I minraise sometimes after the flop in tournaments. You'd be surprised the amount of times the original raises just folds on the spot.

3/17/2009 10:51:36 AM

Granted I don't play much nowadays, but I have seen times in tournaments and SnGs where a min-raise was all that was needed to take down the pot preflop. It usually happens when the blinds are relatively high, thus making even a min-raise tougher to call with modest holdings. Obviously we're talking about a situation when the table has gotten SUPER tight, and it certainly doesn't happen all the time though.

In these cases I find the min raise useful b/c

A) You CAN actually take down the pot with it preflop, so why bother betting any more to steal the blinds?
B) It actually does give you some information about the holdings of those who call/raise you.

In addition, I too occasionally min-raise in tourneys and SnGs to

1) just to throw people off, since regular players know a min-raise by a donk mean they're either playing some mediocre or they have a monster and want people to call and lose a big pot. Sometimes it may make people think I'm a donk so that they'll bluff me later on.
2) grow a big pot for a drawing hand (like J-10 suited)

3/24/2009 7:14:53 PM

wow. just wow.

Full Tilt Poker Game #11493373401: Table Emerald Harbor - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:43:46 ET - 2009/04/03
Seat 1: nikedunklowpro ($28.22)
Seat 2: PocketDonkeys08 ($32.99)
Seat 3: shaykee ($4.65)
Seat 5: Ouroboros85 ($26.53)
Seat 6: freyzuo1 ($5.30)
Seat 7: Grukerth ($57.19)
Seat 8: Copecowboy86 ($8.20)
Seat 9: lewisdever ($11.36)
PocketDonkeys08 posts the small blind of $0.10
shaykee posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Qh Qd]
Ouroboros85 raises to $0.85
freyzuo1 folds
Grukerth folds
Copecowboy86 folds
lewisdever calls $0.85
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to $2.85
PocketDonkeys08 folds
shaykee folds
Ouroboros85 has 15 seconds left to act
Ouroboros85 folds
lewisdever calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Th Jd 9s]
lewisdever checks
nikedunklowpro bets $3
lewisdever raises to $8.51, and is all in
nikedunklowpro calls $5.51
lewisdever shows [Jc 7h]
nikedunklowpro shows [Qh Qd]
*** TURN *** [Th Jd 9s] [7d] <----------------------------------W...T...F
*** RIVER *** [Th Jd 9s 7d] [2h]
lewisdever shows two pair, Jacks and Sevens
nikedunklowpro shows a pair of Queens
lewisdever wins the pot ($22.73) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
mf2006 sits down
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23.92 | Rake $1.19
Board: [Th Jd 9s 7d 2h]
Seat 1: nikedunklowpro (button) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: PocketDonkeys08 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: shaykee (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Ouroboros85 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: freyzuo1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Grukerth didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Copecowboy86 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: lewisdever showed [Jc 7h] and won ($22.73) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens

4/3/2009 10:11:59 PM

Quote :

"Poker skills could sway gaming laws 04 April 2009 by Celeste Biever Magazine issue 2702. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. Looking more skilful by the day (Image: Nick Koudis/ Digital Vision/Getty) IS POKER a game of skill or luck? For regular players that's a no-brainer, but showing that skill wins out has proven surprisingly difficult for mathematicians. Now two studies that tapped the vast amounts of data available from online casinos have provided some of the best evidence yet that poker is skill-based. Many hope that the results will help to roll back laws and court decisions that consider poker gambling, and therefore illegal in certain contexts. Most players insist that poker is predominantly skill. "I depended solely on that skill for my food and rent," says Darse Billings, a former professional player who co-founded the Computer Poker Research Group at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada. In many jurisdictions, however, poker websites and organised games are heavily regulated or even banned under gambling laws, partly because chance is considered the dominant factor. Previous attempts to quantify the relationship between skill and chance have involved building theoretical models or playing software bots against each other. However, Ingo Fiedler and Jan-Philipp Rock at the University of Hamburg's Institute of Law and Economics in Germany argue that these methods fail to reflect real games, and this may explain why some courts and lawmakers have yet to be swayed by them. So over three months, the pair recorded the outcomes of 55,000 online players playing millions of hands of poker's most popular variant, "no-limit Texas hold 'em". They reasoned that if skill dominated, this would eventually show itself over many hands, so they chose two factors to define this threshold. Firstly, they measured how much each player's winnings and losses fluctuated: the higher this variance, the greater the role of chance. Secondly, they measured the average value of a player's winnings or losses: highly skilled or terrible players would do noticeably better or worse than would be expected by chance alone. Based on these factors, they found that the threshold at which the effects of skill start to dominate over chance is typically about 1000 hands, equivalent to about 33 hours of playing in person or 13 hours online, where the rate of play is brisker. So although chance plays a role, they suggest that because most players easily play this many hands in a lifetime, poker is more a game of skill (Gaming Law Review and Economics, DOI: 10.1089/glre.2008.13106). "Our results should have greater impact on the legislators than the results of other studies; they refer to reality," says Fiedler. The threshold at which the effects of skill start to dominate is typically about 1000 hands However, Sean McCulloch, a computer scientist at Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware, says the results may fail to sway a judge or jury. "If you want to use a mathematical argument as the basis for legislation or court decisions, it has to be easy to explain, easy to follow and intuitive," he says. McCulloch used an alternative method to explore skill and chance in poker, also based on real games. Together with Paco Hope of the software consultancy Cigital of Washington DC, he looked at 103 million hands of Texas hold 'em played at the PokerStars online site and calculated how many were won as the result of a "showdown" - in which players win thanks to their cards beating their opponents' cards - versus those that were won because all the other players folded. They argue that the latter hands must be pure skill, because no one shows their cards. Their analysis, released on 27 March, revealed that 76 per cent of games did not end in a showdown, suggesting that skill is the dominant factor. John Pappas of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA) in Washington DC says both studies are badly needed to help properly define the law. In many US states, judges and juries use a so-called "predominance test" to gauge skill and chance, based on the opinions of expert witnesses. Although courts in Pennsylvania, Colorado and South Carolina have all ruled this year that poker is a game of skill, not all courts do. "It would not be wise for any of us to rest on our laurels," Pappas says. The PPA expects the Cigital study will now be used as evidence to fight appeals against court rulings that decided poker is a skill game. However, Preston Oade of law firm Holme Roberts and Owen in Denver, Colorado, who worked on a separate poker case in Colorado, cautions that the studies still may not persuade juries, as this is a "moral, political and social issue", as well as a mathematical one. Pappas hopes the studies will help to persuade the US Congress to grant poker an exemption from the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, due to come into force in December 2009. The act will make it illegal in some states for banks to process transactions from gambling websites."

4/4/2009 3:48:21 PM

Ran into this hand at a live tournament this weekend

I am in second position pre-flop at a table of 8. Blinds are 200-400 and I have most of my 9900 starting chips.

I limp with QdJd
Everyone at the table folds besides the Big Blind who checks his option

Flop: Ah,As,Ac

Everyone oohs and ahhhs and BB checks and I do as well.

Turn: Js
BB Checks
I check in an attempt to slow play

River: Jc .... damn I just lost my boat advantage and am now playing the board

Board: Ad,As,Ac,Js,Jc

BB checks
I consider moving all in to represent KK or QQ guessing that even if I get called we will probably split the pot. In the end I decide there is no reason to risk chips, knowing he will at least call to play the board himself and earn the split, and check back.

BB shows Ah,7d ...wins with Quad Aces

Hahah, I was in shock. It was the slowest play of all time. As I sat there, I realized if he or I would have bet at any point I would most likely have gone All-In and gotten knocked out. A small miracle.

4/6/2009 12:54:53 PM

I'm surprised BB didn't bet a little to get some more money out of you.

4/6/2009 1:22:54 PM

^me too especially on the river.

4/6/2009 4:13:08 PM

Yeh he played it bad for sure.

But doing this:

Quote :

"I consider moving all in to represent KK or QQ"

After limping....would have been a disaster.

4/7/2009 4:56:49 PM

^ You are right. While I was thinking about it, I realized that I didn't put him on KK or QQ because he didn't raise preflop. For the same reason, I decided he would not believe my representation and call anyways to split the pot. That is why I ultimately checked the river.

4/9/2009 1:07:03 PM

for those of you that haven't heard yet, Chip Reese's son Casey died on Monday from a drug overdose at the age of 20. Hard to believe they both passed within a year and half. Pretty sad

http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/casey-reese-son-of-chip-reese-dies-of-drug-overdose-1879/

4/9/2009 11:00:42 PM

Fuck. I didn't even know Chip Reese was dead.

4/10/2009 11:06:40 AM

I actually like the play with Quad Aces.

It's a tiny pot early in the tourny, so I don't see much of an advantage of trying to get a little bit out of him. A check-raise could come across as a BS bluff and you get a lot more chips out of him.

If not, you scoop a little pot and the table has no clue what to think of you.

4/10/2009 1:42:57 PM

I've never posted on here to inform of final tables or anything... but I'm one on stars right now that's kinda big

4/13/2009 6:14:15 PM

jonturner! you still read tww... i thought you were too badass for this now :-)

too bad i am in class and can't watch but good luck!

4/13/2009 7:06:28 PM

Shit. 5 others left and first place is just a tad under a million.

[Edited on April 13, 2009 at 7:47 PM. Reason : ]

4/13/2009 7:28:19 PM

Watching

He mad a sick call on Moorman....like real sickkkk

4/13/2009 7:37:20 PM

5 to go

4/13/2009 8:01:28 PM

4 left

4/13/2009 8:21:27 PM

3 more...

4/13/2009 8:43:37 PM

PokerStars Game #27064167476: Tournament #200904223, $10000+$300 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (10000/20000) - 2009/04/13 21:03:21 ET
Table '200904223 34' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: j.thaddeus (4273854 in chips)
Seat 5: ragen70 (439748 in chips)
Seat 6: PearlJammer (306398 in chips)
j.thaddeus: posts the ante 2500
ragen70: posts the ante 2500
PearlJammer: posts the ante 2500
PearlJammer: posts small blind 10000
j.thaddeus: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
ragen70: raises 25000 to 45000
PearlJammer: raises 258898 to 303898 and is all-in
j.thaddeus: raises 3967456 to 4271354 and is all-in
ragen70: folds
Uncalled bet (3967456) returned to j.thaddeus
*** FLOP *** [2d Jc 2h]
*** TURN *** [2d Jc 2h] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [2d Jc 2h 6h] [Ts]
ragen70 said, "oh my god"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PearlJammer: shows [2c 2s] (four of a kind, Deuces)
j.thaddeus: shows [Jh Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Deuces)
PearlJammer collected 660296 from pot
PearlJammer said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 660296 | Rake 0
Board [2d Jc 2h 6h Ts]
Seat 2: j.thaddeus (big blind) showed [Jh Jd] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Deuces
Seat 5: ragen70 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: PearlJammer (small blind) showed [2c 2s] and won (660296) with four of a kind, Deuces

4/13/2009 9:04:53 PM

PokerStars Game #27064252775: Tournament #200904223, $10000+$300 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXI (10000/20000) - 2009/04/13 21:06:22 ET
Table '200904223 34' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: j.thaddeus (3902297 in chips)
Seat 5: ragen70 (706996 in chips)
Seat 6: PearlJammer (410707 in chips)
j.thaddeus: posts the ante 2500
ragen70: posts the ante 2500
PearlJammer: posts the ante 2500
PearlJammer: posts small blind 10000
j.thaddeus: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
j.thaddeus said, "77"
ragen70: raises 25000 to 45000
j.thaddeus said, "sick"
PearlJammer: raises 363207 to 408207 and is all-in
j.thaddeus: folds
ragen70: calls 363207
*** FLOP *** [2d 5h Jc]
*** TURN *** [2d 5h Jc] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [2d 5h Jc 7s] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PearlJammer: shows [Qh Kd] (high card King)
ragen70: shows [Ah Th] (high card Ace)
ragen70 collected 843914 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 843914 | Rake 0
Board [2d 5h Jc 7s 3d]
Seat 2: j.thaddeus (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ragen70 (button) showed [Ah Th] and won (843914) with high card Ace
Seat 6: PearlJammer (small blind) showed [Qh Kd] and lost with high card King

4/13/2009 9:10:53 PM

Payout 527K.

4/13/2009 9:11:23 PM

congrats Jon, that's friggin sick

4/13/2009 10:18:07 PM

FUCKING STANDARD FTP BULLSHIT...

Full Tilt Poker Game #11744528506: $8 + $0.80 Tournament (88089486), Table 4 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:11:04 ET - 2009/04/18
jimharmon is feeling angry
Seat 1: philuce (5,585)
Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (6,660)
Seat 3: poker4fun222 (3,766)
Seat 5: DONKEYDON1123 (5,690)
Seat 6: spuzk (4,479)
Seat 7: Inhand (2,410)
Seat 8: ThatsPokerAA (2,860)
Seat 9: jimharmon (13,160)
philuce posts the small blind of 60
nikedunklowpro posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [9c 8c]
poker4fun222 folds
jimharmon is feeling happy
jimharmon is feeling normal
DONKEYDON1123 has 15 seconds left to act
DONKEYDON1123 is sitting out
DONKEYDON1123 has timed out
DONKEYDON1123 folds
spuzk folds
Inhand folds
ThatsPokerAA raises to 360
jimharmon folds
philuce folds
nikedunklowpro calls 240
DONKEYDON1123 has returned
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9d 9h]
nikedunklowpro checks
ThatsPokerAA bets 780
nikedunklowpro calls 780
*** TURN *** [Ts 9d 9h] [3h]
nikedunklowpro checks
ThatsPokerAA bets 1,720, and is all in
nikedunklowpro calls 1,720
ThatsPokerAA shows [As Td]
nikedunklowpro shows [9c 8c]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9d 9h 3h] [Th]
ThatsPokerAA shows a full house, Tens full of Nines
nikedunklowpro shows a full house, Nines full of Tens
ThatsPokerAA wins the pot (5,780) with a full house, Tens full of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,780 | Rake 0
Board: [Ts 9d 9h 3h Th]
Seat 1: philuce (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: nikedunklowpro (big blind) showed [9c 8c] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Tens
Seat 3: poker4fun222 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: DONKEYDON1123 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: spuzk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Inhand didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: ThatsPokerAA showed [As Td] and won (5,780) with a full house, Tens full of Nines
Seat 9: jimharmon (button) didn't bet (folded)

4/18/2009 4:19:36 AM

Full Tilt Poker Game #11773405832: Table Vacation - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:01:43 ET - 2009/04/19
Seat 1: Gangstachic ($25)
Seat 2: Pothor ($28.98), is sitting out
Seat 3: AJDichA ($9.02)
Seat 4: tablast4140 ($9.91)
Seat 5: Imbelbimbel ($3.25)
Seat 6: nikedunklowpro ($16.16)
Seat 7: Joe73523 ($14.71), is sitting out
Seat 8: ndram ($31.65)
Seat 9: razzie2006 ($8.21), is sitting out
Gangstachic posts the small blind of $0.10
AJDichA posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Qd Qh]
tablast4140 folds
Imbelbimbel folds
nikedunklowpro raises to $0.75
ndram folds
Gangstachic adds $0.10
Gangstachic folds
AJDichA calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Kh Ah Qs]
AJDichA checks
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro bets $1.50
AJDichA calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [Kh Ah Qs] [Ks]
AJDichA checks
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro bets $3
AJDichA has 15 seconds left to act
AJDichA raises to $6.77, and is all in
Pothor has returned
nikedunklowpro calls $3.77
AJDichA shows [6d Kd]
nikedunklowpro shows [Qd Qh]
*** RIVER *** [Kh Ah Qs Ks] [6h]
AJDichA shows a full house, Kings full of Sixes
nikedunklowpro shows a full house, Queens full of Kings
AJDichA wins the pot ($17.24) with a full house, Kings full of Sixes

4/19/2009 9:22:22 PM

Looks like it might be a good month



[Edited on April 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM. Reason : .]

4/20/2009 10:30:16 AM