need linux-compatible online p0ker

5/1/2005 4:39:48 PM

Any of you guys play at the $1000 no-limit tables on PP?

5/1/2005 7:42:14 PM

This is why I usually only play drunk online...not trashed, just buzzing really good
I make a lot of moves/calls I would never make totally sober. This is the first cash game hand I sat down for tonight. My all in move was just a semi bluff for the open ended, figured he would fold on my bet, but glad he called.
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Stage #120568486: Holdem No Limit $0.50 [ 2005-05-04 22:59:48 ]
Seat 2 - WHITEBUMBA $227.57 in chips
Seat 3 - BIGSCOTT7 $18.25 in chips
Seat 6 - VENOMPSYCHO $40 in chips
Seat 8 - JEATA $19.20 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 2] ***
BIGSCOTT7 - Post small blind $0.50
VENOMPSYCHO - Post big blind $1
VENOMPSYCHO - Pocket [9c,4h]
JEATA - Folds
WHITEBUMBA - Raises $1 to $2
BIGSCOTT7 - Calls $1.50
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $1
*** FLOP [5c,3s,Jh] ***
BIGSCOTT7 - Checks
VENOMPSYCHO - Checks
WHITEBUMBA - Checks
*** TURN [5c,3s,Jh,2h] ***
BIGSCOTT7 - Checks
VENOMPSYCHO - All-In $38
WHITEBUMBA - Raises $38 to $76
BIGSCOTT7 - Folds
WHITEBUMBA - returned ($38) : not called
*** RIVER [5c,3s,Jh,2h,6c] ***
WHITEBUMBA - Calls
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($82) Rake ($2)
Board [5c,3s,Jh,2h,6c]
WHITEBUMBA - HI:One pair, kings [Kh,Kd - P:Kh,P:Kd,B:Jh,B:6c,B:5c]
BIGSCOTT7 - Folded on the TURN
VENOMPSYCHO - Total ($80) All-In HI$80)Straight, two to six [9c,4h - B:6c,B:5c,P:4h,B:3s,B:2h]
JEATA - Folded on the POCKET CARDS

5/4/2005 11:11:41 PM

I'm up aroudn $300 more on the $.25bb table. Me and the Nattys are unstoppable.

5/5/2005 1:17:06 AM

haha, i got a royal flush in clubs the other night. hot damn i'm good

5/5/2005 9:25:00 PM

Just got knocked out of a $20 single table tourney. I get pp fours and limp in....Flop comes 4-5-10 two people before me come in, I raise to around 200, get reraised to 650, so I go all in with about 1200 chips...the tourney had just started. Well the other guy turns over pp fives. I mean, that is just typical online BS. The odds of two players flopping a set has got to be ridiculous. I have only had it happen once live, and I play alot.

5/6/2005 4:31:07 PM

This is one of those hands where I just sit back and say "wtf are these idiots thinking?"

I had been sitting at this table for about 30 hands. I hadn't played a hand yet when I wasn't in the blinds (I like to sit down and establish myself as a tight player before I start raising.) I had noticed the table was really loose preflop, but people often folded after the flop even if they had a lotta $ in the pot after they missed. So I get 89 suited and here's what transpires.

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Game #818287322 - (blinds $0.25/$0.50) No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2005/05/06-17:13:32.5 (CST)
Table "Vuna (5 max)" (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: acesrob007 ($38.75 in chips)
Seat 2: cosmo776 ($80.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Bizz-o ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 4: kronic_style ($49.75 in chips)
Seat 5: JennyB2004 ($49.25 in chips)
acesrob007: Post Small Blind ($0.25)
cosmo776: Post Big Blind ($0.50)
Dealing...
Dealt to JennyB2004 [ 8h ]
Dealt to JennyB2004 [ 9h ]
Bizz-o : Call ($0.50)
kronic_style: Call ($0.50)
JennyB2004: Raise ($3.50)
acesrob007: Call ($3.25)
cosmo776: Call ($3)
Bizz-o : Fold
kronic_style: Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ 7h 3h 8s ]
acesrob007: Bet ($5)
cosmo776: Fold
JennyB2004: Raise ($20)
acesrob007: Raise ($30)
JennyB2004: Raise All-in ($25.75)
acesrob007: Call All-in ($0.25)
*** TURN *** : [ 7h 3h 8s ] [ 5s ]
*** RIVER *** : [ 7h 3h 8s 5s ] [ 9d ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $80 | Rake: $2
Board: [ 7h 3h 8s 5s 9d ]
acesrob007 lost $38.75 (showed hand) [ Qs 9c ] (a pair of nines)
cosmo776 lost $3.50 (folded)
Bizz-o lost $0.50 (folded)
kronic_style lost $0.50 (folded)
JennyB2004 bet $49.25, collected $90.50, net +$41.25 (showed hand) [ 8h 9h ]
(two pair, nines and eights)

I love winning, but I seriously don't believe idiots like this should be allowed to play poker. There should be some kind of test or something you have to take first. I figured that his first $5 was just a stab at the pot, so of course I reraise with top pair and the flush draw. After he went all-in on top of me, I was pretty certain he either had an overpair or had flopped a set. But by that time, I was too pot committed to even think about folding. Besides, top pair and a flush draw after the flop is a really solid hand anyway. After the showdown, I was flabbergasted. I mean, sure, the call with Q9 off is OK... sets up the bluff. Even stabbing at a "harmless" flop like that isn't a bad play. But then to raise a huge reraise... I really don't know what people are thinking sometimes. I am thankful for their money though.

**This is a hand, that if I played on Party Poker, would have had the turn and river either be QQ or 10J.

5/6/2005 7:33:19 PM

^Where are you playing now? I am on Absolute and am kinda getting fed up with it. I have lost so many all ins in tournaments its getting sad. I have prolly won once out of 10 all ins. I've lost with pocket Kings 3 times, Had good mid pairs and lost to bullshit like 94 calling me, I lost two today with AQ....A7 called me and of course he hit his sevens. Then just a few minutes ago I go all in with AK, and some stupid fuck calls me with Q5 and hits his fives. At pretty much all these times I had a good amount of chips and was never low stack. It just seems anytime I go all in, I get beat, no matter what I have. Its almost a joke at this point.

[Edited on May 6, 2005 at 9:02 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2005 9:01:26 PM

Jesus, christ, I love it when your nut flush on the river gives some loser his full house. I guess I can just throw that $20 into the pile of shit I have lost today on BS. Granted that one wasnt as bad, but I just love how they make it so perfect to where the hand you are drawing to, makes the nut hand for someone else.

5/6/2005 9:37:35 PM

I play on Paradise Poker. I like it a lot and it seems really fair.

And the only advice I can give you on your last post is: Never draw to a flush or a straight when the board has paired up. Never draw to a straight when there are 3 of a suit on the board. Most of the time, I won't even draw to a straight if there are 2 suited cards on the board, cause odds are someone is drawing to a flush and there goes 2 of your outs. There are exceptions to this, but it's generally a pretty good rule to adhere to if you want to win consistently.

[Edited on May 6, 2005 at 10:02 PM. Reason : *]

5/6/2005 10:02:23 PM

shit happens. online poker is not rigged

5/7/2005 12:31:25 AM

Jim, you bastard, you stole my name idea...8-6-7-5-3-0-9

5/7/2005 4:34:49 AM

It really works. People have less respect for my bets and love to call. So if I have a huge hand on the river.... I bet really big and they won't fold.

5/7/2005 8:47:01 AM

any current working party poker bonus codes?

5/7/2005 10:52:10 PM

Quote :

"shit happens. online poker is not rigged"

I wouldnt say its necessarily "rigged" But I do think that certain shit happens to entice bets so that the house(site) makes a good rake at certain points. And you see a lot of shit online you rarely see in real life. I've seen AA lose to AA three times, and I've even seen three people all flop the nut straight. Each held QJ. There are a lot of other incidences where it seems the site is trying to get as much money in play as possible to get the most rake.

5/7/2005 11:50:33 PM

Anyone watching or seen the WPT Hollywood tournament? The owner of the Lakers has made the final table. Thats pretty impressive considering how many pros were in the tourney too. I've never seen Jerry Bus before, he doesnt look at all like I imagined him.

5/7/2005 11:55:03 PM

Quote :

"It really works. People have less respect for my bets and love to call. So if I have a huge hand on the river.... I bet really big and they won't fold."

Yeah no shit. And you fuckers laughed at me at first.

5/8/2005 7:35:55 PM

I can't believe the people that play on these $15/$30 tables, it's insane how much money is being thrown around on these

5/10/2005 2:14:04 AM

^dude you should see the #300/600 table on Ultimate Bet. It's a heads up game and I've seen guys WELL into the 6 figures playing. Basically trading thousands of dollars per hand.

5/10/2005 10:48:02 AM

^^You've got a lot to learn if you think the 15/30 table is big money.

5/10/2005 12:51:47 PM

Quote :

"You've got a lot to learn if you think the 15/30 table is big money."

I've played 10/20 before. 15/30 is almost as much as a joke

5/11/2005 12:42:57 PM

This is the second time I've lost when all-in preflop AA vs AA


***** Hand History for Game 2037023766 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Thu May 12 04:52:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 37167 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: aabargil ( $20.5)
Seat 2: rc48tl ( $16.5)
Seat 3: jarlaxle133 ( $98)
Seat 4: Hellegaard ( $98.65)
Seat 5: slipnuts81 ( $96.3)
Seat 6: portions ( $96.75)
Seat 7: bober15 ( $130.25)
Seat 8: MagicSpartn ( $385.73)
Seat 9: TMH000 ( $69)
Seat 10: shane1398 ( $39)
jarlaxle133 posts small blind (0.5)
Hellegaard posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to slipnuts81 [ As, Ac ]
slipnuts81 raises (5) to 5
portions folds.
bober15 raises (12) to 12
MagicSpartn folds.
TMH000 folds.
shane1398 folds.
aabargil folds.
rc48tl folds.
jarlaxle133 folds.
Hellegaard folds.
slipnuts81 raises (30) to 35
bober15 raises (118.25) to 130.25
bober15 is all-In.
slipnuts81 calls (61.3)
slipnuts81 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $191.1 with slipnuts81
Creating Side Pot 1 with $33.95 with bober15
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, 4h, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $191.1 | Side Pot 1: $33.95 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Jh 4h Th 3s 9h ]
aabargil balance $20.5, didn't bet (folded)
rc48tl balance $16.5, didn't bet (folded)
jarlaxle133 balance $97.5, lost $0.5 (folded)
Hellegaard balance $97.65, lost $1 (folded)
slipnuts81 balance $0, lost $96.3 [ As Ac ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ac,Jh,Th,9h ]
portions balance $96.75, didn't bet (folded)
bober15 balance $225.05, bet $130.25, collected $225.05, net +$94.8 [ Ad Ah ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ah,Jh,Th,9h,4h ]
MagicSpartn balance $385.73, didn't bet (folded)
TMH000 balance $69, didn't bet (folded)
shane1398 balance $39, didn't bet (folded)


The first time was in a $5 buy in tournament against a short stack, but this one kinda stings

5/12/2005 6:50:26 AM

Damn man, that is one of the worst bad beats ever!

5/12/2005 6:47:34 PM

Party paid me back tonight, I was just begging to catch a hand against this retard before someone else busted him..



***** Hand History for Game 2041797589 *****
0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Fri May 13 03:38:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 37146 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: fabfen ( $90.25)
Seat 2: WhiteLotus80 ( $100)
Seat 3: johnnylee1 ( $227.29)
Seat 4: slipnuts81 ( $173.3)
Seat 5: Pokerface787 ( $44.85)
Seat 6: DirtyDan1986 ( $345.98)
Seat 7: ArrPirate ( $99)
Seat 8: LnkPark ( $332.95)
Seat 9: TVHDK ( $110.25)
Seat 10: haushibo ( $89.75)
WhiteLotus80 posts small blind (0.5)
johnnylee1 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to slipnuts81 [ 9s, 9c ]
slipnuts81 calls (1)
Pokerface787 folds.
DirtyDan1986 folds.
ArrPirate calls (1)
LnkPark calls (1)
TVHDK calls (1)
haushibo folds.
fabfen folds.
WhiteLotus80 folds.
johnnylee1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6s, 9h, 6h ]
johnnylee1 checks.
slipnuts81 checks.
ArrPirate checks.
LnkPark bets (6)
TVHDK calls (6)
johnnylee1 folds.
slipnuts81 calls (6)
ArrPirate folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2s ]
slipnuts81 checks.
LnkPark bets (25)
TVHDK folds.
slipnuts81 raises (60) to 60
LnkPark raises (300.95) to 325.95
LnkPark is all-In.
slipnuts81 calls (106.3)
slipnuts81 is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 3s ]
Creating Main Pot with $353.1 with slipnuts81
Creating Side Pot 1 with $159.65 with LnkPark
** Summary **
Main Pot: $353.1 | Side Pot 1: $159.65 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 6s 9h 6h 2s 3s ]
fabfen balance $90.25, didn't bet (folded)
WhiteLotus80 balance $100, lost $0.5 (folded)
johnnylee1 balance $226.29, lost $1 (folded)
slipnuts81 balance $353.1, bet $173.3, collected $353.1, net +$179.8 [ 9s 9c ] [ a full house, Nines full of sixes -- 9s,9c,9h,6s,6h ]
Pokerface787 balance $44.85, didn't bet (folded)
DirtyDan1986 balance $345.98, didn't bet (folded)
ArrPirate balance $98, lost $1 (folded)
LnkPark balance $159.65, bet $332.95, collected $159.65, lost -$173.3 [ As 2c ] [ two pairs, sixes and twos -- As,6s,6h,2c,2s ]
TVHDK balance $103.25, lost $7 (folded)
haushibo balance $89.75, didn't bet (folded)


BAM

5/13/2005 3:56:50 AM

bam

5/13/2005 4:04:31 AM

random ass post:

I just read this at the bottom of sportingbet's web page

Quote :

"Warning: Gambling involves risk. By gambling on this website, you run the risk that you may lose money or suffer psychologicial injuries. You gamble at your own risk."

and I busted out laughing

I'm gonna go to sleep now.. wooooooo poker

5/13/2005 9:23:45 AM

Justin, do we need to hold an intervention for you?? I'm starting to think you have a problem...

5/13/2005 9:46:08 AM

me too



desktop:

5/13/2005 9:56:39 AM

damn dude, how do you choose between all that shit?

did you write some program to randomly choose for you??

5/13/2005 10:46:48 AM

I follow the fishies

5/13/2005 11:13:05 AM

There is nothing more satisfying for me when playing to relieve an idiot of his stack. I posted a hand a few pages back for about $500 where some moron went all-in every time he hit top pair. He actually busted me out twice, but it was really nice to see his whole stack come my way.

5/13/2005 6:01:45 PM

Just saw a guy at the $300/600 table on Ultimate Bet with $120,000. Jesus fucking christ. That is just insane. And thats just his online bankroll.

5/15/2005 12:35:45 AM

Really, I mean god damn. I know its the .25 no limit table, but I just hate getting beat by hands like this. I had K6 in the pocket, the river gave me 2 pair, I didnt see any straight out there, well I did, but didnt put him on it at all. But of course, he had it. He played 85. This was after I saw him play 24 a few hands before. He calls almost every hand. It almost makes me REALLY want to know what he folds.

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Stage #125083509: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-05-15 01:11:15 ]
Seat 4 - LSSUDS $10.20 in chips
Seat 5 - MANDY_16 $29.52 in chips
Seat 6 - DAMNWH0R3 $28.90 in chips
Seat 7 - DINOSCAR $9.75 in chips
Seat 8 - VENOMPSYCHO $17.95 in chips
Seat 9 - POOLSHARK27 $12.05 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 6] ***
DINOSCAR - Post small blind $0.10
VENOMPSYCHO - Post big blind $0.25
VENOMPSYCHO - Pocket [6h,Kd]
POOLSHARK27 - Folds
LSSUDS - Calls $0.25
MANDY_16 - Calls $0.25
DAMNWH0R3 - Calls $0.25
DINOSCAR - Calls $0.15
VENOMPSYCHO - Checks
*** FLOP [6d,2c,4s] ***
DINOSCAR - Checks
VENOMPSYCHO - Bets $0.50
LSSUDS - Folds
MANDY_16 - Folds
DAMNWH0R3 - Calls $0.50
DINOSCAR - Folds
*** TURN [6d,2c,4s,7h] ***
VENOMPSYCHO - Checks
DAMNWH0R3 - Bets $0.75
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $0.75
*** RIVER [6d,2c,4s,7h,Ks] ***
VENOMPSYCHO - Checks
DAMNWH0R3 - All-In $27.40
VENOMPSYCHO - All-In $16.45
DAMNWH0R3 - returned ($10.95) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DAMNWH0R3 - Show cards [8c,5c]
VENOMPSYCHO - Lost mucks
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($36.65) Rake ($1.80)
Board [6d,2c,4s,7h,Ks]
LSSUDS - Folded on the FLOP
MANDY_16 - Folded on the FLOP
DAMNWH0R3 - Total ($34.85) All-In HI$34.85)Straight, four to eight [8c,5c - P:8c,B:7h,B:6d,P:5c,B:4s]
DINOSCAR - Folded on the FLOP
VENOMPSYCHO - HI: [Lost mucks]
POOLSHARK27 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS



I guess this is my payback for playing 94os a few posts up when I was drunk and won $40. Oh well, I am still ahead from that hand, and I got my money back at this table a few hands ago.

[Edited on May 15, 2005 at 1:40 AM. Reason : .]

5/15/2005 1:34:54 AM

Come on poker guys, post your shit. I am bored here.

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Stage #125112552: Holdem No Limit $0.10 [ 2005-05-15 02:31:06 ]
Seat 2 - KEITH JONES $5.75 in chips
Seat 3 - THE420SMOKER $10.10 in chips
Seat 4 - DINOSCAR $11.94 in chips
Seat 5 - JJJJUICED $14.05 in chips
Seat 8 - VENOMPSYCHO $32.50 in chips
Seat 9 - FIVEWOOD $12.85 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 8] ***
FIVEWOOD - Post small blind $0.10
KEITH JONES - Post big blind $0.25
VENOMPSYCHO - Pocket [6c,Qc]
THE420SMOKER - Folds
DINOSCAR - Folds
JJJJUICED - Folds
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $0.25
FIVEWOOD - Raises $0.15 to $1.25
KEITH JONES - Folds
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $1
*** FLOP [Kc,8s,9c] ***
FIVEWOOD - Bets $2.75
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $2.75
*** TURN [Kc,8s,9c,7s] ***
FIVEWOOD - Bets $3.25
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $3.25
*** RIVER [Kc,8s,9c,7s,10h] ***
FIVEWOOD - All-In $5.60
VENOMPSYCHO - Calls $5.60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FIVEWOOD - Show cards [As,Ks]
VENOMPSYCHO - Show cards [6c,Qc]
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($25.95) Rake ($1.25)
Board [Kc,8s,9c,7s,10h]
KEITH JONES - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
THE420SMOKER - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
DINOSCAR - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
JJJJUICED - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
VENOMPSYCHO - Total ($24.70) HI$24.70)Straight, six to ten [6c,Qc - B:10h,B:9c,B:8s,B:7s,P:6c]
FIVEWOOD - HI:One pair, kings [As,Ks - P:Ks,B:Kc,P:As,B:10h,B:9c]

These things make me smile



I feel bad for this guy....if I hadn't been drinking, I prolly wouldn't have called his raises. But oh well. I had a flush draw, and an open ended striaght. Do I feel bad for calling? NO. Did he feel bad for me calling? YES.

[Edited on May 15, 2005 at 3:03 AM. Reason : :-)]

5/15/2005 2:43:12 AM

Quote :

"DAMNWH0R3 - All-In $27.40"

Poor...

5/15/2005 3:43:47 AM

Highlights from a single table victory:

Stone cold position bluff:

Dealt to Kojack05 [ 9c, Qc ]
mickyank7 folds.
blekjek calls (15)
ims60 folds.
s2black9s folds.
dajjy folds.
bilfan raises (30) to 30
macerone9 folds.
Kojack05 calls (30)
niulii calls (20)
TheDuke93 folds.
blekjek calls (15)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4d, 5s, 4h ]
niulii checks.
blekjek checks.
bilfan checks.
Kojack05 bets (75)
niulii folds.
blekjek folds.
bilfan calls (75)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
bilfan checks.
Kojack05 bets (100)
bilfan folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 385
Board: [ 4d 5s 4h Jd ]
macerone9 balance 635, didn't bet (folded)
Kojack05 balance 950, bet 205, collected 385, net +180
niulii balance 665, lost 30 (folded)
TheDuke93 balance 755, lost 15 (folded)
mickyank7 balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
blekjek balance 845, lost 30 (folded)
ims60 balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
s2black9s balance 835, didn't bet (folded)
dajjy balance 970, didn't bet (folded)
bilfan balance 775, lost 105 (folded)

Taking an idiots stack:

***** Hand History for Game 2052339316 *****
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12226108) - Sun May 15 09:03:36 EDT
2005
Table Table 35324 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Kojack05 (1245)
Seat 3: niulii (515)
Seat 4: TheDuke93 (805)
Seat 5: mickyank7 (1715)
Seat 6: blekjek (920)
Seat 7: ims60 (860)
Seat 8: s2black9s (490)
Seat 9: dajjy (630)
Seat 10: bilfan (820)
niulii posts small blind (15)
TheDuke93 posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kojack05 [ Jd, Jh ]
mickyank7 raises (75) to 75
blekjek folds.
ims60 folds.
s2black9s folds.
dajjy calls (75)
bilfan folds.
Kojack05 raises (1245) to 1245
Kojack05 is all-In.
niulii calls (500)
niulii is all-In.
TheDuke93 folds.
mickyank7 folds.
dajjy folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1210 with niulii
Creating Side Pot 1 with $730 with Kojack05
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, 5c, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1210 | Side Pot 1: 730
Board: [ 5h 5c 3s Kd 5s ]
Kojack05 balance 1940, bet 1245, collected 1940, net +695 [ Jd Jh ] [ a full house,
Fives full of jacks -- Jd,Jh,5h,5c,5s ]
niulii balance 0, lost 515 [ As Tc ] [ three of a kind, fives -- As,Kd,5h,5c,5s ]
TheDuke93 balance 775, lost 30 (folded)
mickyank7 balance 1640, lost 75 (folded)
blekjek balance 920, didn't bet (folded)
ims60 balance 860, didn't bet (folded)
s2black9s balance 490, didn't bet (folded)
dajjy balance 555, lost 75 (folded)
bilfan balance 820, didn't bet (folded)

The original bettor here took ~500 chips 2 hands prior to this one, when his twos tripped up against my AJ. We got into a small debate over his move, and on this hand I very nearly put him all-in after his pre-flop bet. Very glad I didn't...

***** Hand History for Game 2052355845 *****
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12226108) - Sun May 15 09:12:31 EDT
2005
Table Table 35324 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: Kojack05 (1725)
Seat 4: TheDuke93 (2120)
Seat 5: mickyank7 (1625)
Seat 6: blekjek (660)
Seat 7: ims60 (355)
Seat 9: dajjy (715)
Seat 10: bilfan (800)
blekjek posts small blind (25)
ims60 posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kojack05 [ 8h, 8s ]
Kojack05: still dont have to be ahppy about it
Kojack05:
dajjy raises (150) to 150
bilfan folds.
Kojack05 calls (150)
TheDuke93 folds.
mickyank7 folds.
blekjek raises (635) to 660
blekjek is all-In.
ims60 folds.
dajjy raises (565) to 715
dajjy is all-In.
Kojack05 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1520 with blekjek
Creating Side Pot 1 with $55 with dajjy
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 4s, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1520 | Side Pot 1: 55
Board: [ Td 4s 5s Qd 7d ]
Kojack05 balance 1575, lost 150 (folded)
TheDuke93 balance 2120, didn't bet (folded)
mickyank7 balance 1625, didn't bet (folded)
blekjek balance 1520, bet 660, collected 1520, net +860 [ Ac Ah ] [ a pair of aces
-- Ac,Ah,Qd,Td,7d ]
ims60 balance 305, lost 50 (folded)
dajjy balance 55, bet 715, collected 55, lost -660 [ Kh Ks ] [ a pair of kings --
Kh,Ks,Qd,Td,7d ]
bilfan balance 800, didn't bet (folded)

This was a tough call, the first and only hand heads up. Would you guys have made it? This guy basically bluffed his entire stack with a Q-8 offsuit on the flop with no draw when my big slick was paired up. I remembered this bold move and decided he was doing it again here....

ims60 finished in third place and won $20.
TheDuke93: i needed redemption
Kojack05: yep
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12226108) - Sun May 15 09:26:57
EDT 2005
Table Table 35324 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 2: Kojack05 (5300)
Seat 4: TheDuke93 (2700)
TheDuke93 posts small blind (150)
Kojack05 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kojack05 [ Jd, Qs ]
TheDuke93 raises (2550) to 2700
TheDuke93 is all-In.
Kojack05 calls (2400)
Creating Main Pot with $5400 with TheDuke93
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kc, 6h, Kd ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qc ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5400 |
Board: [ Kc 6h Kd 2h Qc ]
Kojack05 balance 8000, bet 2700, collected 5400, net +2700 [ Jd Qs ] [ two pairs,
kings and queens -- Kc,Kd,Qs,Qc,Jd ]
TheDuke93 balance 0, lost 2700 [ Jh 7s ] [ a pair of kings -- Kc,Kd,Qc,Jh,7s ]

5/16/2005 9:22:16 AM

[Edited on May 16, 2005 at 2:34 PM. Reason : double post]

5/16/2005 2:31:59 PM

this play stuck out in my mind:

Quote :

" Taking an idiots stack: ***** Hand History for Game 2052339316 ***** 30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12226108) - Sun May 15 09:03:36 EDT 2005 Table Table 35324 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button Total number of players : 9 Seat 2: Kojack05 (1245) Seat 3: niulii (515) Seat 4: TheDuke93 (805) Seat 5: mickyank7 (1715) Seat 6: blekjek (920) Seat 7: ims60 (860) Seat 8: s2black9s (490) Seat 9: dajjy (630) Seat 10: bilfan (820) niulii posts small blind (15) TheDuke93 posts big blind (30) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Kojack05 [ Jd, Jh ] mickyank7 raises (75) to 75 blekjek folds. ims60 folds. s2black9s folds. dajjy calls (75) bilfan folds. Kojack05 raises (1245) to 1245 Kojack05 is all-In. niulii calls (500) niulii is all-In. TheDuke93 folds. mickyank7 folds. dajjy folds. Creating Main Pot with $1210 with niulii Creating Side Pot 1 with $730 with Kojack05 ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5h, 5c, 3s ] ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kd ] ** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ] ** Summary ** Main Pot: 1210 | Side Pot 1: 730 Board: [ 5h 5c 3s Kd 5s ] Kojack05 balance 1940, bet 1245, collected 1940, net +695 [ Jd Jh ] [ a full house, Fives full of jacks -- Jd,Jh,5h,5c,5s ] niulii balance 0, lost 515 [ As Tc ] [ three of a kind, fives -- As,Kd,5h,5c,5s ] TheDuke93 balance 775, lost 30 (folded) mickyank7 balance 1640, lost 75 (folded) blekjek balance 920, didn't bet (folded) ims60 balance 860, didn't bet (folded) s2black9s balance 490, didn't bet (folded) dajjy balance 555, lost 75 (folded) bilfan balance 820, didn't bet (folded) "

I must ask who the idiot is here. This is a terrible play in a sit n' go with 9 players left. A good player's mindset here is survive until ~6 players are left. JJ is a poor hand to be going allin on top of a raise from UTG, and with a caller. Sure you got lucky and probably had the best hand of those dealt but with 9 players left you don't want to risk all your chips if you don't have to. With JJ (and 9 people left), most of the time (since it didn't happen here) if anyone calls your allin move, you will be looking at best 50/50 chances (maybe slightly better if they call with a AJ). Sure it was a poor play by your opponent but realize also that you were lucky in this hand too.

5/16/2005 2:34:14 PM

well put

5/17/2005 2:57:31 AM

^^ In that situation I can defened the raise by the play of my opponents previously. Given their loose play, I thought there was a good chance I'd get called by hand I was a clear favorite over, which is exactly what happened. I did not respect the raise by the original bettor since it was only 2.5x the BB, so given his previous play I felt I also a strong chance of being a clear favorite over him as well.

I have never had success playing JJ any way but hard. They're really only good preflop especially against begineers that call with anything. Against better players I would agree with you, since they tend throw away hands like K9 or QJ offsuit, but bad players won't. If I don't play strongly more players will likely enter the pot, adding more overcards and making my Jacks in all likelihood useless without flopping a set.

What is your general strategy playing in these? I'm just getting into the sit-and-go, and could certianly use all the help I can get.

5/17/2005 6:50:07 AM

I don't post many hands here... but I loved the runner runner this guy hit against me tonight (he was drawing dead* on the flop, and it was great for me that he "hit"!)

***** Hand History for Game 2062415438 *****
$400 NL Hold'em - Tuesday, May 17, 06:40:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 36843 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: wenpo ( $394 )
Seat 4: SIX_NOT_7 ( $309.43 )
Seat 5: spurcha ( $523.35 )
Seat 6: peanutbud22 ( $386.9 )
Seat 7: StuDaKid ( $338.8 )
Seat 8: Bodgod ( $658.8 )
Seat 10: BongoSteff ( $533.9 )
Seat 1: almostgrown ( $374.2 )
Seat 3: NCSUpokerman ( $382 )
Seat 9: HE_HATE_ME_ ( $400 )
spurcha posts small blind [$2].
peanutbud22 posts big blind [$4].
NCSUpokerman posts big blind + dead [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NCSUpokerman [ 2d 2c ]
StuDaKid calls [$4].
Bodgod folds.
BongoSteff calls [$4].
almostgrown folds.
wenpo folds.
NCSUpokerman checks.
SIX_NOT_7 calls [$4].
spurcha folds.
peanutbud22 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Kh, 2s ]
peanutbud22 checks.
StuDaKid checks.
BongoSteff checks.
NCSUpokerman bets [$10].
SIX_NOT_7 folds.
peanutbud22 calls [$10].
StuDaKid folds.
BongoSteff folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
peanutbud22 checks.
NCSUpokerman bets [$20].
peanutbud22 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ]
peanutbud22 bets [$65].
NCSUpokerman is all-In [$346]
peanutbud22 calls [$281].
peanutbud22 shows [ 4s, 6s ] a straight, two to six.
NCSUpokerman shows [ 2d, 2c ] a full house, Twos full of kings.
NCSUpokerman wins $773 from the main pot with a full house, Twos full of kings.
peanutbud22 has left the table.

Draws for his flush... drawing dead, and hits runner runner straight

*I realize he wasn't drawing absolutely dead as he could've hit running 6's or 4's, but if those hit, I would put him on a K if he bet and fold on the river anyway.

[Edited on May 17, 2005 at 7:38 AM. Reason : *]

5/17/2005 7:24:18 AM

Quote :

"I did not respect the raise by the original bettor since it was only 2.5x the BB, so given his previous play I felt I also a strong chance of being a clear favorite over him as well."

which would be a mistake. An UTG raise of 2.5x the big blind is a respectable raise, especially from the chipleader. He could easily have had AA or KK and made a solid opening raise to prevent having 6 callers preflop. Use position to your advantage.

With 195 in the pot, you made a massive reraise. The only people that should have called were those with AA, KK. So you got lucky the guy was an idiot and the guy didn't have enough chips to cripple you.

You can play JJ with strength, a solid reraise (200-300?) there might have had the same effect without putting all your chips on the line. And then if a A or K flopped, you would have the opportunity to back down if you thought you were beat.

The main point is, avoid all-in preflops, especially in early stages of a tournament. As I've heard over and over again, all-in works everytime but once.

5/17/2005 9:55:19 AM

Quote :

"^^ In that situation I can defened the raise by the play of my opponents previously. Given their loose play, I thought there was a good chance I'd get called by hand I was a clear favorite over, which is exactly what happened. I did not respect the raise by the original bettor since it was only 2.5x the BB, so given his previous play I felt I also a strong chance of being a clear favorite over him as well. I have never had success playing JJ any way but hard. They're really only good preflop especially against begineers that call with anything. Against better players I would agree with you, since they tend throw away hands like K9 or QJ offsuit, but bad players won't. If I don't play strongly more players will likely enter the pot, adding more overcards and making my Jacks in all likelihood useless without flopping a set. What is your general strategy playing in these? I'm just getting into the sit-and-go, and could certianly use all the help I can get."

ONLINE sitngos are relatively all the same. There are basically 3-4 stages: the idiots phase, the race to the bubble, the bubble, and in the money. I find, that there are about 3 idiots, 3-4 decent players, and 3-4 pretty good players in each tournament. Basically you don't want to beat the idiots out of the tournament. During the first stage of the tournament, I play few hands just to wait and see who gets knocked out. I'll play high pairs, 1010 or better with a moderate raise, and will try to see good draws for cheap. You don't want to be putting all your chips in the pot without knowing for sure that you have the best hand, and during this phase you don't want to put all of your chips in without seeing a flop (except maybe AA,KK but then you'll probably win the blinds or beat a short stack). The name of the game is see flops for cheap and try to build chips. Some good advice I've been given for this time period is, "you can't win the tournament yet, but you can certainly lose it."

5/17/2005 11:02:28 AM

^ Good advice, thanks

5/17/2005 12:39:57 PM

Situation: You're playing 4 handed in a single table with a reasonable stack of about 1500. The blind however are at 100/200, giving you only 7.5 big blinds. The 3 other players are playing very cautiously, even the chip leader at ~3500, in an attempt to make the money (top three).

Question: How do you play hands like KQ, QJ, A-10, KJ, and other good but not great hands in the 4 different positions at the table? Should you try stealing blinds, or play cautiously?

I've had this happen several times, and I've usually resorted to playing aggressively and stealing blinds since a standard 4x raise is half my stack. I'd had good success until tonight when a player limped and I tried raising all-in with KQ, only to see him turn over AA. Learned my lesson there....but fortunately I still got 3rd....

5/18/2005 1:38:35 AM

after a limper, I always fold all of those in that situation preflop... but no limpers, if I'm on the button, I'm all in... definitely AT and KQ... probably not QJ or KJ though... early position, fold 'em all no matter what... and if I'm on a blind with no limpers, i'll just see the flop / check down with any except AT... I'm probably all in preflop with any Ace from the small blind.

5/18/2005 2:54:53 AM

I'd push with KQ on small blind

5/18/2005 3:13:29 AM

^^ That's pretty much been my strategy, good to know it's a sound one. I got exceptionally lucky UTG 4-handed going all-in with QJ as the chip leader. The guy on my left just lost the lead on the previous hand, and he claimed to lay down KQ from the button. It was right about there I decided I was getting just a TAD overzealous... especially since any caller likely had me beat, if not dominated....

5/18/2005 7:44:25 AM

Question:

You're sitting with 9000 chips, a small stack the table of 8. Approximately 100,000 chips are in the game at the moment, including the leader with 35,000. You're looking for a good opportunity to double up when the UTG raises to 3000. Next player folds and then it's on you. You see pockets 5's, and your read on the UTG is they have to high cards (she had AQ).

Do you:

1) Fold, expecting others to have more overcards or a better pocket pair

2) Call, hoping to catch the flop

3) Go all-in and try to isolate the UTG


I ended up going all-in looking to double up, but the chips leader put the UTG all-in as well and turned over pocket 8s. I hit a 5 on the flop and went on to win the tournament.

5/19/2005 10:50:19 AM

Those kinds of decisions completely depend on the level of the blinds, how tight/loose the table is playing, etc.

Typically, if I'm facing an UTG raise, with the chipleader behind me. I'd probably lay down 5's. I want 4-5 callers in a pot when I have a low pocket pair and I'm not seated in a good position.

Trying to isolate with a hand that is 50/50 at best is a mistake IMO. But if I'm low stack and a high level of blinds are coming up on me, then I might take that shot just to accumulate chips.

But in a typical situation, where I have chips and I can be selectively aggressive, I'd lay it down.

5/19/2005 11:10:53 AM