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"'ve finally done it! I have broken through all the liberal defense lines!"

You're a legend in your spare time!!!!1

12/30/2015 4:20:03 PM

This thread is just sad

12/30/2015 4:22:25 PM

12/30/2015 4:22:32 PM

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[Edited on December 30, 2015 at 4:37 PM. Reason : wrong thread]

12/30/2015 4:36:31 PM

The affluenza kid's mom is apparently Carrot Top

12/31/2015 12:21:56 PM

Another mosque burning! What is that, like 3 USA mosque burning hate crimes in the last 20 years? When will we stop this epidemic of Islamaphobia! I also saw a viral video of someone being mean to a person wearing a hijab! That proves an epidemic of Islamaphobia!

Oh wait, the mosque was burned by a Muslim attendee.
http://www.chron.com/houston/article/Federal-officials-arrest-man-in-connection-with-6727623.php

Better make some hashtags or a viral video to show Islamaphobia is a huge trending problem, because the actual evidence for that doesn't exist. We all need to do our part furthering this narrative by sharing HuffingtonPost articles. #IStandWithAhmed.

12/31/2015 12:34:33 PM

Cool. thank you for bringing this interesting story to our attention.

12/31/2015 12:35:54 PM

Maybe he's autistic? Just keeps repeating the buzzwords he knows.

12/31/2015 12:37:56 PM

The story is probably fake, it was reported in huffingtonpost:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20151226/us--mosque-fire-houston/?m=true

12/31/2015 12:48:23 PM

That is the same mosque burning I referenced above. Where the arsonist was a Muslim attendee.

12/31/2015 1:24:15 PM

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/01/to_ask_lebron_james_to_sacrifi.html

1/1/2016 12:54:51 PM

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"Luckily this is something that every parent can control by not naming their daughter LaQuasha or Mercedes and their son tyrone or Lamar. If there are two equal candidates it is human nature to have a bias for their candidate that is most like them. I believe the name bias would be similar for candidates with other non traditionally white ethic names like Kumar or Peng. Hence why many Asian families give their kid traditional English American sounding names. [/b]Leave it to the victim mentality mob to scream racism over issues like this[/b]"

The fuck? Not choosing someone because their name sounds black is practically the definition of racism. So, yeah, black people just need to be more like white people, and they'll be good! Like, this is really what you just said.

1/1/2016 1:35:26 PM

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"The fuck? Not choosing someone because their name sounds black is practically the definition of racism."

I get what you're saying, but I think he meant "not choosing someone because their name sounds different". I think there is a cultural assimilation aspect to it that applies to any name that doesn't sound "American". The resume name test has probably been the best example so far of systematic bias/racism... but as was said part of it can also be "majority bias"... Where John Smith is more likely to hire Bob Smith rather than XY Hiang Cho. It's an understandable bias that can be measured and corrected, not necessarily a KKK member throwing away Tyronne's resume.

1/1/2016 7:46:31 PM

Tyrone and Lamar, HUR's examples of "black" names that parents shouldn't use, have European origins. Adaeze, Jamal, Imani, Kwame, Nia, etc...have African or Arabic origins. Jalen is popular as an invented name, and it's awesome.

These are all good names, and it's obvious to everyone that bias against those names is race-based. HUR wouldn't have casually listed "Tyrone" and "Lamar" if there wasn't explicit racial bias against those names--in other words, he didn't list them because they are different; he listed them because they are associated with black people. (Quick note, guys: it's a little weird for white people to be going around trying to assign names to black children.)

Anyway, the cultural practice of inventing names is cool and has yielded some good ones. That said, we all know that Jasminyia will likely start going by Jasmine or Jazz after the 1,000th time she has to explain "Jasminyia" to someone. I wouldn't pretend that all invented names are "practical."

Of course, our white friends, Cherysh, Brailee, Emmyt, and Rylan, will be joining Jazz in the workforce...cause white people ruin everything.

[Edited on January 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM. Reason : Best name of all time? Rocky]

1/1/2016 8:40:37 PM

Cleanthony is a solid name.

1/1/2016 11:27:06 PM

Yes! Once you hear it and say it out loud, it's just a good name.



But...if it was supposed to be pronounced Clay-AN-thuh-knee or Clean-THUH-knee, I'd have some problems. And I'd totally lose it if they were looking for: Clean-THO-knee.

Those three require a different spelling.

[Edited on January 2, 2016 at 12:13 AM. Reason : And I didn't even think about CLEE-an-THO-knee.]

1/1/2016 11:51:52 PM

It looks like it's an old Italian name no one uses anymore. It wasn't until I googled it during convo about him getting shot did I realize.

1/2/2016 8:22:28 AM

https://www.propublica.org/article/why-small-debts-matter-so-much-to-black-lives?utm_campaign=bt_facebook&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

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"The most recent federal survey in 2013 put the difference in net worth between the typical white and black family at $131,000. That’s a big number, but here’s an even more troubling statistic: About one-quarter of African-American families had less than $5 in reserve. Low-income whites had about $375. ... The modern roots of the racial wealth gap can be traced back to the post-World War II housing boom, when federal agencies blocked loans to black Americans, locking them out of the greatest wealth accumulation this country has ever experienced. More recently, the bursting of the housing bubble and subsequent recession slammed minorities. In 2013, the median wealth of white households was 13 times the median wealth of black households, the widest gap since 1989."

This is probably the most important aspect of systemic racism. Wealth was withheld by force from blacks, and this damaged the community more than anything else IMO.

1/2/2016 4:11:44 PM

[sarcasm]Oh, come on, moron, that was 70 years ago. Blacks should have done something about that by now. They can't keep blaming stuff that happened in the past. Jeez![/sarcasm]

1/2/2016 7:52:19 PM

Both $375 and $5 are both insane numbers. Good lord.

1/2/2016 8:28:48 PM

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"The fuck? Not choosing someone because their name sounds black is practically the definition of racism. So, yeah, black people just need to be more like white people, and they'll be good! Like, this is really what you just said."

i'm not condoning this...

Being a Realist,instead of some idealistic hippy liberal douche,
I accept the reality of the world we live in. In America you
are free to name your kid however you please. Just don't bitch
about "White priviledge" when you son DeShaun gets passed over
during a resume' screening process over some kid name Jake.

Honestly this could be true in the reverse in some circumstances.
I'd be interested in if Indian hiring managers have a bias for a
candidate named Shadeep [or other Indian sounding name] versus a
Kevin for an IT position. (oh no's racism and micro-aggressions HUR implied indians work
in IT!!!!)

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" HUR wouldn't have casually listed "Tyrone" and "Lamar" if there wasn't explicit racial bias against those names--in other words, he didn't list them because they are different; he listed them because they are associated with black people. "

This is more observation then "bias". I have NEVER met a white Tyrone or Lamar and apologize for not using a "traditional" ethnic
name for my example.

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"This is probably the most important aspect of systemic racism. Wealth was withheld by force from blacks, and this damaged the community more than anything else IMO."

hmmm this doesn't explain Caucassian americans whose families withheld wealth or squandered their wealth in the last 30 years but still yielded
productive children or African-Americas that have achieved after coming from meager roots. I think the correlation of family wealth 50 years ago and their successive generations wealth is only slightly positive. Although as the limit approaches the top 1% I can see the correlation becoming more
positive.....

1/2/2016 9:15:29 PM

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"Just don't bitch about "White priviledge" when you son DeShaun gets passed over during a resume' screening process over some kid name Jake."

Holy fuck you are dumb.

1/2/2016 9:38:37 PM

Is saying you're a "realist" the same as you saying you agree white privilege exists? In a weird way?

1/2/2016 10:56:27 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/news/economy/chicago-segregated/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

Is it a "privilege" that CNN constantly writes sympathy articles about your population? Nobody writes articles about poor white trash "stuck" in the trailer park.

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"In Chicago, blacks and whites live clustered in separate parts of the city. In fact, some 72% of black or white residents would have to move to a different census tract to even out the numbers, according to a commonly used segregation measure called the index of dissimilarity"

In an ideal world where city resources are fairly allocated, I don't see why having pockets of black residents and white residents is a bad thing or why it's considered "segregation" when in 2016 no one is forcing residents to live within any particular neighborhood. When a large group of Chinese folks live together it is colloquially called "china town" when a large group of ethnic italians live together it is considered "little italy." Yet in 2016 if a group of African-Americans live together, now it is considered segregation/racism/bad and CNN writes articles about it...

Regardless of your skin's melanin content, if you are a young professional White, African-American, Asian, or Indian why would you move to a neighborhood like Englewood or Humboldt Park???

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"As a result, many black residents rent for generations. "The scars of segregation, redlining, housing policies and discrimination are still very visible today," "

I'm sure black residents within traditionally African-American neighborhoods would favor less violent crime, drug activity, and reduced harassment from the mean PoPo, but this article assumes that all black residents want to live in some WASPY suburban neighborhood or some high-rise in the posh yuppie gentrified lake front neighborhood. Minus the issues mentioned above, I bet many African-Americans enjoy living around those that they share values, culture, and other things in common with. CNN had an article highlighting this aspect from a African-American neighborhood in Baltimore, detailing this.

Let's assume though my assertion above is incorrect and all mostly black neighborhoods are neglected run down shit-holes due to a government conspiracy and most of the oppressed residents are yearning to escape these neighborhoods. Sure having mommy and daddy pay your house down payment or your college tuition helps to get ahead in life, but in 2016 the tools are available to get an education or better job to provide the means to live elsewhere or even to live in a trailer park among other lower class white residents.

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"One reason why so many blacks in Chicago are out of work is because of the loss of manufacturing jobs on the city's South side over the past 15 to 20 years"

This is undoubtedly a reason for the decline in income levels of African-Americans within these areas.
If the jobs left though why aren't the job seekers leaving (assuming they want jobs). Honestly I see this with white people here in my city that live on the street. They have signs about "out of work" or "can't find a job" or whatever excuse while pan-handling. The reality is if they really wanted work, they just may
have to move somewhere where the work is located and leave behind the glam of living in the big city.
With my job I meet many folks that often are always moving to follow the job. A friend
who now has a stable job and living with a cousin, would often live out of his truck when starting
a new construction project before being able to afford a more permanent type of residence for the
extent of the job.

[Edited on January 5, 2016 at 11:57 AM. Reason : a]

1/5/2016 11:48:27 AM

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"where city resources are fairly allocated"

1/5/2016 12:03:08 PM

Chicago probably wouldn't fit that mold

1/5/2016 12:17:27 PM

1/5/2016 12:25:29 PM

Oh, snaps, Mr. Man stepping into the fray.

1/5/2016 12:32:23 PM

I'm sure the neighborhoods that are red on the crimes per capita temperature map on the left have more cops patrolling and these cops are all RACISTS black-haters. AM I RITE

1/5/2016 1:48:51 PM

1/8/2016 5:22:04 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/14/entertainment/oscars-so-white-protest-nominations-feat/index.html

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"no minorities were nominated in any of the four acting categories"

#OscarsSoWhite
Obviously the nominators are all #Racist #Bigots and only like white actors. #Oppression #EqualRightMeansEqualOscars #TokenMinorityOscar #HollyWoodAffirmitiveAction

1/14/2016 1:10:21 PM

#issuesmanyougotem


[Edited on January 14, 2016 at 1:24 PM. Reason : ]

1/14/2016 1:13:32 PM

I'm seeing more and more regarding the Oscars and boycotts.

Really surprising about Elba.

I think this year will be the last where we see an all-white makeup, because when ratings tank, they'll take notice.

1/19/2016 11:15:26 AM

a black man held the door for me today

#WhitePrivilege

1/20/2016 1:09:20 PM

Maybe we need Oscar Affirmative Action! Regardless of the movie quality there MUST be an African American actor nominated no matter what in the name of #Equality #EndingOppression #PC #NotHurtingFeeling #Sensitivity

1/20/2016 1:33:04 PM

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"Dash, an African-American actress and contributor to the network, also said on Wednesday's "Fox & Friends" that to obtain integration there should be no Black History Month, award shows that honor African-Americans, or BET, a channel that focuses on African-American entertainment. "We have to make up our minds. Either we want to have segregation or integration, and if we don't want segregation, then we have to get rid of channels like BET and the BET Awards and the Image Awards, where you're only awarded if you're black," Dash said. "If it were the other way around, we would be up in arms. It's a double standard." Dash continued, "There shouldn't be a Black History Month. We're Americans, period. That's it." "

Smart woman!

1/20/2016 5:51:18 PM

Everyone knows who Stacey Dash is, and every one knows that she is an imbecile. With all of the trash that comes out of her mouth, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would quote her.


It is also fairly well known that her own family basically disowned her for the hot garbage she spews.

1/20/2016 5:58:25 PM

kind of perfect that the dumb racist called an incredibly dumb person a smart woman

1/20/2016 6:12:31 PM

I did not know who Stacey Dash was. I looked her up and was all, "Duuuuude, it's Dionne from Clueless!"

I don't think it's fair to call her an imbecile. I have no doubt she's a bit conservative, but her stuff is comically transparent, and there's no way she believes half of it. She's just tryna get paid, and folks like HUR are eating it up.

If those blonde ladies can play dumb for money, then she can, too.

1/20/2016 6:28:32 PM

^ if true that it is a charade, I liken it to trolls on a message board (think DNL) who purposefully say the dumbest things to get attention. In my book, that is still an imbecile.

1/20/2016 7:42:57 PM

I think the subtext of her statements are missing too. BET wasn't started for black empowerment and has never been operated with that goal really.

But if we got rid of black history month, the point wouldn't be to say that "if black history month is right then we should have had a white history month" the point would be that blacks would be well and fully integrated into history, there wouldn't be an obvious need to specially remind people they're an important political group.

The irony of dash making this statement against the oscars situation is that this shows a special need for conscientiousness about black actors.

I tend to subscribe to the idea that newer generations should just eschew the oscArs, their process is broken, and someone should just start a new non racist award system and make it popular. No need for validation from entrenches, outdated judging system.

1/21/2016 12:22:09 AM

So are we doing away with mother and Father's Day too bc im sick of calling my parents.

1/21/2016 8:00:28 AM

Yes, we are.

1/21/2016 8:22:48 AM

Has anyone brought up the hypocrisy of Stacey Dash lambasting (and mischaracterizing the intent) of BET, yet appearing on a BET show?


Has anyone noticed how odd it is that aside from her role in Clueless, the main supporters of Stacey Dash in terms of actress roles, hosting events, and speaking engagements has been the black community?



Again, for the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone could quote that woman, or take what she has to say seriously

1/21/2016 8:32:54 AM

Wait, but has anyone pointed out yet the underlying falsehood of Dash's comment, putting forth the perception that the BET awards are for blacks only? Because whites, and a host of other races have certainly been nominated for and won BET awards before.

As for the network itself, which admittedly I rarely watch, it routinely includes people of all races in its program. It is in no way exclusionary.

[Edited on January 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM. Reason : Hh]

1/21/2016 9:57:48 AM

the false equivalency of equating the Oscars with the BET Awards is mind-blowingly stupid for so many reasons

like, you really, really, really just not be into using your brain if you compare them

1/21/2016 11:43:13 AM

Which brings up the reason BET was created in the first place: because back in the day, MTV largely refused to even air material produced by black artists. Now THAT does draw a rather convincing equivancy to the current debacle, huh?

For Dash, in order to make statements like she did, she willfully did some pretty impressive mental gymnastics and/or completely ignored the rich history of racism and exclusion in this country. She's an imbecile.

[Edited on January 21, 2016 at 12:01 PM. Reason : Dd]

1/21/2016 12:00:31 PM

Maybe if we keep talking about this eventually we will all come to an agreement

1/21/2016 12:13:00 PM

Did BET cancel her show?

1/21/2016 4:11:45 PM

what if the "faux-shotgun cane" could actually be unsheathed to become a "sword cane"? that would be a change-up

1/21/2016 7:02:20 PM