^^3rded and this is why:

The longer a show goes on, the more criticism it gets. (find me a show that doesent fit this model) In the beginning, nobody knew what kind of show LOST was going to be. We only knew that it was badass and could develop in quite a few ways. Thats when everybody was on board loving it: no one knew where it was going to go but we all saw the potential and our imaginations loved it.

Then, most ppl find that the way in which they wanted it to develop (no matter which way that was) didnt happen or either didnt happen fast enough. Begin the bitching.

Ya cant keep everybody happy, especially when you have a fanbase as large and varied as LOST does. I know people who actually thought that last episode with the van was the best this season ! (I liked the desmond flashback waaay better). Its still a good show and you know you will continue to watch it because you're already hooked enough to post on msg boards about it!

Side note: That new euro chick they added this season was lookin real good in the short bit they showed her last episode. We better see some titties or some grinding from her or she's going to be the next hot chick "voted off the island"....

[Edited on March 6, 2007 at 2:14 PM. Reason : 2 3 ]

3/6/2007 2:14:08 PM

3/6/2007 4:21:40 PM

Charlie and Kate!!

3/6/2007 4:48:32 PM

charlie must be channeling michael jackson circa 1990

3/7/2007 12:54:24 AM

^^ They both look like theyve been on the smack...
Not a very flattering shot of kate by any means...

3/7/2007 2:59:00 PM

bttt for just over an hour

3/7/2007 8:49:22 PM

ahhhhhh, much better.

3/7/2007 10:19:05 PM

This week was certainly better than most this season, so I guess that's promising..

Is it just me, or does Locke kind of fuck up a lot now?

3/7/2007 11:02:18 PM

hello my name is John Locke

I destroy everything

3/7/2007 11:04:13 PM

definitely a good episode. I totally forgot about Patches and the video they saw from the Pearl.

I want the cat too.

3/7/2007 11:13:11 PM

3/7/2007 11:13:19 PM

3/8/2007 12:12:18 AM

"Instead of guarding this prisoner, let me go over and play a nice little game of chess instead"


What the fuck was that?

3/8/2007 12:46:26 AM

not too shabby, figured the 77 would blow the building up... wish there would have been more info from patches and the woman from the docks.
Anyone speak russian to translate their dialogue?
and found it:

Klugh: Mikhail. Mikhail! You know what to do.
Mikhail: We still have another way [out].
Klugh: We cannot risk. You know the conditions.
Mikhail: There is another way.
Klugh: They captured us. We will not give (or let, or betray) [unintelligible].
Klugh: You know what to do. It is an order.
Mikhail: We still have another way!
Klugh (in English): Just do it, Mikhail.
Mikhail: Forgive me. (shoots)

[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 12:49 AM. Reason : answered my question, benefit for others... ]

3/8/2007 12:47:03 AM

the guy who played the torture victim's husband played Pinter on the Seinfeld when time goes in reverse

3/8/2007 4:42:47 AM

oh Lost, you had so much potential. Now I just watch because for some reason I hope they will tie some loose ends together at some point.

oh and here is the LOST formula that I presented on the last page:

Quote :

"more questions will be posed, none will be answered, and a new character might even be introduced while old ones are ignored."

pretty much exactly what happened in last night's episode and every episode ever.

3/8/2007 7:47:52 AM

I have not read all the post but I did like this show. I have some real trouble with it though...The Black guy with the Son...I know they were allowed to leave...but DAMN, did they make it back to society, or what? There is just way too many revolving questions that they play with and give no indication that they want to answer....ok rant over


III

3/8/2007 8:30:48 AM

^they both "asked" to leave the show to pursue other interests.

they are done and we likely wont see them again, except for one epsiode.

3/8/2007 9:12:31 AM

^then the writers fucked up pretty bad by making them a centerpiece of the show!

to give the kid "powers" and then have him kidnapped and then let them be the only ones to "leave" the island is ridiculous. If they wanted to leave the show, have them killed off. This show is so ridiculous.

3/8/2007 9:32:57 AM

well you know walt can't come back...he's hitting puberty and growing (in real time) faster than the show is progressing (island time)

3/8/2007 9:36:34 AM

if they completely forget/leave walt and his abilities, then fuck the writers of this show. that's part of what got me hooked.

3/8/2007 9:38:06 AM

The writers said that the Michael/Walt story will pick up again in season 4 (next season)

my guess is that they did reach civilization and that the whole "Walt reaching puberty and wont look/talk the same anymore" side of the story will be explained through the "Lost time" theories where time almost stands still on the island, but progresses regularly in the real world

3/8/2007 9:46:56 AM

^good. I didn't think they could just drop that central of a story line

3/8/2007 9:54:03 AM

they have already filmed everything they are going to take part in.

I know.

you can trust me.

3/8/2007 10:25:17 AM

It would be nice to pick up the story, but I have to agree it was pretty damn crazy to push their story line so hard. That definately got me hooked...then just as quick they were gone.


Then the blk guy from the other side of the plane....Dead
Homegirl from The Fast and Furious...Dead

They took my favorite characters out as fast as they brought them in. Gave them a bulk of the story line, and just let it drop...

The show is still going though, so I must be the minority


III

3/8/2007 10:26:15 AM

people on here bitch way too much about this show

if last night's episode wasn't good, i don't know what will please you

3/8/2007 10:30:51 AM

Quote :

"the guy who played the torture victim's husband played Pinter on the Seinfeld when time goes in reverse"

He was also in "Crash"

3/8/2007 10:37:57 AM

Last night's ep was pretty good...oddly enough, I was just listening to an old episode of This American Life about how American evangelical Christian cattle farmers are trying to breed red angus cows (like Patchy McGee had) suitable for life in Israel. The reason? They need to sacrifice a red heifer without mark or blemish in order to rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalem. This is the third thing that has to happen before--you guessed it--ARMAGEDDON HAPPENS!

3/8/2007 11:39:31 AM

Very good ratio of present time/flashbacks. I thought the flashbacks were decent this week.

3/8/2007 12:04:54 PM

Quote :

"people on here bitch way too much about this show if last night's episode wasn't good, i don't know what will please you"

gg

We should start a seperate thread for "LOST bitching & complaints" and keep this one for ppl who actually want to share info about the show.

^?^ Thanks for the translation coppertop!

3/8/2007 1:27:52 PM

last night's ep gets a B-

3/8/2007 5:58:11 PM

c-

3/8/2007 9:29:33 PM

I swear to fucking god. Every week this show just pisses me off more and more yet I still can't stop watching. Its like I'm a drug addict chasing that first high.

[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 9:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/8/2007 9:30:38 PM

http://www.tvguide.com/Magazine/Cover-Story/

Wednesday, March 7 2007
Lost's Future Shock

No one is safe as mysteries unfold — with a vengeance
by Shawna Malcom

It’s late in the afternoon on Valentine’s Day, and love has found the set of Lost. Josh Holloway, who plays prickly con man Sawyer, nurses a sore throat with a cup of hot tea, his wife, Yessica, by his side. Jorge Garcia, the heartbroken Hurley, huddles attentively with his new girlfriend. Even Evangeline Lilly and Dominic Monaghan — Kate and Charlie — steal occasional kisses, public displays of affection typically avoided by this usually discreet real-life pair.
The playful mood extends beyond the couples, though. Today’s scene, shot on Oahu’s picturesque North Shore for a mid-April episode, is something of a reunion. Except for the taping of a brief dream sequence, the sprawling cast hasn’t performed en masse all season. The gathering has definitely upped the hugs-and-laughs vibe. In between takes, Holloway jumps into the open arms of Matthew Fox, who plays good doc Jack. Garcia, Monaghan and Daniel Dae Kim (Jin) sit in a circle, cracking jokes and tackling a New York Times crossword puzzle. And when Fox is finished clowning with Holloway, he turns to Yunjin Kim (Sun), twirling and gently dipping his costar in a surfside dance. “When I saw Matthew, I was like, ‘Oh, we’re still on the same show? I had no idea!’” Kim says with a laugh. “Having everyone back on the beach, that’s something I’ve missed.”

She’s not the only one. Almost from the moment those mysterious Others kidnapped Jack, Kate and Sawyer at the end of Season 2, many fans began moaning about the trio’s absence from the beach camp. And that was only one criticism — perhaps not even the sharpest — that’s been lobbed at the Emmy-winning drama during its closely scrutinized third season. A few more: What’s up with all the attention being paid to the Others? How about more airtime for the original characters like Sayid and Claire?

And the loudest and most persistent plea: How about some freakin’ answers already?!

As viewer discontent has grown, Lost’s ratings have started to shrink. By the time the show finished its six-episode mini-season in November, it was sometimes getting beaten by CBS’ Criminal Minds. And since its Feb. 7 return at a new 10 pm/ET time slot, Lost has consistently come in second behind CBS’ CSI: NY (though it still wins in the advertiser-coveted 18-49 demographic).

Clearly, that three-month break in momentum, designed to do away with all those much-maligned repeats of Season 2, backfired. “In hindsight, was it the right decision? No,” acknowledges executive producer Carlton Cuse. “But at the time we supported it and thought it was the best compromise.” Says executive producer Damon Lindelof, “We’re 65 hours into a heavily serialized show. Some casual viewers may be gone, but we’re very proud to have the loyal audience we do have.”

And if they’re not exactly doing twirls and dips on the beach about the ratings slip, the producers say they are sure the nonstop run of episodes through May will have viewers hooked again. “We feel confident that by the time you get to the end of Season 3,” Cuse says, “you will feel like you’ve seen really good stories, spent time with the characters that you love and gotten a sufficient dose of answers.”

A big cloud of black smoke? TV Guide has gotten a sneak peek at several upcoming episodes and — while we don’t want to overhype the way ABC’s breathless promos have done recently (so what were those three big answers promised last month?) — we can say that viewers should expect several well-crafted and emotionally satisfying developments.

The March 14 episode, for example, focuses on Claire, though with her flashback-era black hair and goth vibe, she’s hardly the Claire we’ve come to know. “She’s dealing with a lot of stuff with her parents,” Emilie de Ravin reveals. And — SPOILER ALERT! — might her father, in fact, also be Jack’s alcoholic pop? The actress’ lips are sealed. But by the end of the episode, viewers definitely will have met Claire’s mother and father.

The same episode also picks up the Desmond-predicts-Charlie’s-death thread introduced at the end of the Feb. 14 episode. Previews Henry Ian Cusick, who plays psychic Desmond: “I tell Charlie, ‘Whatever Claire has in store for you, don’t go with it, because it’s gonna be your end.’”

For more Lost spoilers, pick up the new issue of TV Guide, on sale Thursday.

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Lost
by Sabrina Rojas Weiss

March 7, 2007: Don't Push the Button; the Button Is Bad
Tonight had a very satisfying balance of plot development and fun beach games. How many shows do you know that can combine torture scenes with ping-pong? It seems like Hurley's taking his role as camp activities director rather seriously. Almost as seriously as Sawyer took his role as purveyor of fine goods and reading material. I'm surprised how quickly everyone agreed to Sun's suggestion that if Sawyer lost, he'd have to stop using nicknames for only a week. You'd think they could get something bigger (or at least a whole month without name-calling), given how confident he was in his skills. For a con man, he's sure lost his ability to spot a hustle. Of course the best lines came out of this little Club Med vignette:

— Sawyer's pre-ping-pong round of nicknames: "Grimace" and "Avalanche" for Hurley; "Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon" for Sun and Jin; "Zorro" for Paulo and "Who the hell are you?" for Nikki. Ha!
— Hurley's explanation that he played ping-pong in his mother's basement and the "insti... place I hung out for a while."

As you might have guessed, I wanted to get that fun stuff done and take a breather before getting into the aptly named Flame station and our new friend, Patches, er, Mikhail Bakunin. I'm wondering what exactly Danielle's been doing for the past 16 years that she never noticed the existence of this quaint little barn with a satellite dish, or even just the cow or the horse (which I'm pretty sure isn't the horse Kate saw last season, right? I think that one was black). For once, though, Crazy French Lady had a pretty good instinct about who was inside. She should teach Locke a thing or two about intuition, since he's so awful about interpreting his own. I had a hunch about Mikhail and his too-convenient story about a truce with the "Hostiles," but I couldn't tell if he was just a bad actor with that stilted speech (he should have left it at "I am the last remaining member of the Dharma Initiative") or a good actor pretending to be a bad actor. Even the cat looked like a suspicious character, and that was before we learned it was named Nadia. Thankfully, Sayid still has his well-honed bulls--t-detecting instincts intact, even while suffering from a bullet wound. It's good to know he can take pain as well as he can dish it. And that brings us to tonight's flashback. We didn't really learn much more about Sayid's past, except that he lived in Paris some time after his escape from Iraq, he's actually a good cook, and Nadia wasn't the only woman he had to "interrogate." That was a pretty good storytelling trick, having us side with Sayid for most of the episode and believing that he'd never tortured that woman, until the very end, when he knew he'd be safe if he admitted it to her alone. My god, that man is even sexy when he's beaten up and crying. Like most of the flashbacks of late, this story was meant to teach us more about the characters' motivations than about any weird coincidences or chain of events. And I guess that means he's keeping Patches alive out of remorse, not just as a hostage and unwilling guide to the "Barracks." As for the casualty of the night, I'm very curious about what went down with angry Kerchief woman. The Others seemed to take the death of one of their own very seriously, and they were so calm and collected before Kate and Sawyer's messy escape. I don't get why suddenly Kerchief felt things were so dire that she needed to sacrifice herself. Unless that's not what she was saying to Mikhail in Russian. Anyone want to translate that conversation for us?

Why would anyone still leave Locke alone with a computer after his last IT disaster? I kind of expected to hear the Debbie Downer music when they all found out what he'd done.

There are quite a few things bugging me about the Flame, like how come it got to exist above ground? Was it really a Dharma station, or was it set up by the Others to look like one? (Never mind, that's just my brain overtaxing itself.) What destroyed the satellite and sonar communications in the first place? What kind of inefficient system makes you play chess in the event of an emergency? What kind of info did they just lose in that explosion? And are the cow and horse OK?

3/8/2007 11:07:54 PM

i knew this was about submarines

3/14/2007 9:28:28 PM

well isn't that something

3/14/2007 9:35:39 PM

I'm getting my old men mixed up... that's Jack's Dad right?

3/14/2007 9:36:26 PM

^yuh

3/14/2007 9:42:02 PM

ok, i usually call people out for complaining, but that episode did pretty much suck

3/14/2007 10:00:44 PM

I really enjoyed this episode. One of the best of the season (which isn't saying much).

Anyone else getting bored of Locke? I know that I'm exactly looking forward to next week's episode.

And with the whole Jack thing - did they expect him to be some stubborn recluse? Put anyone in that situation and they'll slowly form bonds, even with the enemy..

3/14/2007 10:03:09 PM

ahh fuck, i missed it

3/14/2007 10:16:36 PM

Quote :

"best of the season (which isn't saying much)"

3/14/2007 10:29:42 PM

actually a decent episode

Quote :

"And with the whole Jack thing - did they expect him to be some stubborn recluse? Put anyone in that situation and they'll slowly form bonds, even with the enemy.."

Jack's character is "FUCK THEM", no matter what...he wouldn't just all of a sudden go decide to throw around a football

I'm thinking brainwashed or something of the sort

[Edited on March 14, 2007 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ]

3/14/2007 10:46:17 PM

^ put it better than I was going to

3/14/2007 10:55:58 PM

Quote :

"more questions will be posed, none will be answered, and a new character might even be introduced while old ones are ignored."

I'm gonna continue to quote myself here cause this is absolutely the formula for this show.

3/14/2007 11:05:53 PM

It could be Jack's twin.

3/15/2007 1:02:43 AM

Whenever I get rich I am so getting that security system at my mansion

Fuck a barbwire fence

3/15/2007 2:57:10 AM

Or jack could just be pretending to get along with them, so he can better help himself and juliette escape.

3/15/2007 5:38:14 AM

i think the reason jack is playing ball like nothing ever happened has something to do w/ the french chick's comment about her daughter not remembering her after so long. maybe it's an allusion, since the french chick was talking to kate about how she'd feel if jack didn't remember her...

3/15/2007 7:24:25 AM

well her daughter was taken away from her when she was very young, of course she wouldn't remember her mother.

3/15/2007 9:30:11 AM