20 team ACC basketball conference

9/17/2011 10:31:01 PM

christ, PackBacker, can you not even scan the latest fuckin page before you post shit that's been on the BottomLine on ESPN all god damned day?
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[Edited on September 17, 2011 at 10:32 PM. Reason : ]

9/17/2011 10:31:45 PM

I busted out laughing when I saw his post

9/17/2011 10:32:45 PM

you didn't notice that the thread was four pages longer than the last time you checked it either?

9/17/2011 10:32:53 PM

OBVIOUSLY NOT

9/17/2011 10:33:12 PM

you'd fit in well over at pack pride, lol

9/17/2011 10:34:15 PM

news to me

9/17/2011 10:34:58 PM

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"news to me"

See.

I bring awesomeness to this thread with my posts

9/17/2011 10:36:14 PM

I actually did the same thing earlier, if it makes you feel any better.

9/17/2011 10:37:01 PM

^ HAHAHA was SO looking for a pic of that

9/17/2011 10:44:23 PM

I was describing that scene to Tree T. Wista one time

9/17/2011 10:46:01 PM

^^^ lol, what I was thinking.

9/17/2011 10:48:17 PM

I'm reading on twitter that ACC presidents actually voted to accept them this morning, official announcement in the next 2 days

9/17/2011 11:25:11 PM

hey guys, I don't know if you heard yet, but apparently Syracuse and Pitt have applied to become members of the ACC! just a heads up!

9/18/2011 12:02:02 AM

9:30 presser tomorrow

9/18/2011 12:07:42 AM

quuuueeeeeeeeeee

9/18/2011 12:08:51 AM

hey u guise. texas am is talking about leaving the big 12. how will this impact the acc?

9/18/2011 12:16:54 AM

Texas and Texas Tech ACC bound!

9/18/2011 12:35:17 AM

My response to John Swofford if this results in convincing Texas and whoever to join.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDOUvOTX-gA#t=1m36s

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 12:37 AM. Reason : sdf]

9/18/2011 12:36:32 AM

i was expecting that link to go here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkefjCES-4#t=0m47s

9/18/2011 12:40:04 AM

Would be hilarious if pitt and cuse came out and said "we never applied to acc. dinich is full of shit."

9/18/2011 12:58:58 AM

it would also be hilarious if heather dinich went on a date with JT3bucky, b/c that's about as likely.

9/18/2011 2:21:02 AM

i dont give a damn about the acc and this is the best thing to ever happen to the acc but really bad for state basketball.

9/18/2011 2:28:27 AM

it's really not that bad. we can finish in the middle of the pack in the old acc and get no respect, or finish in the middle of the pack of a new acc and get some respect. did you not watch how much every single team from the big east got jerked off last year? if we steal all the good teams from the big east, then we too can get jerked off just the same.

9/18/2011 2:34:37 AM

it won't be as good as the big east. it will be super top heavy with 4 or 5 superpowers beating everybody. Theres no way anyone will be on the same level as duke unc texas pitt and cuse. The big east didn't have as many great teams. Our only slither of hope was people coming to accept the challenge of playing against duke and unc but now they have many more options to do that with and the whole "in the shadow" problem is even bigger now. I don't see us ever being a big time basketball program again if this goes through. I'd rather be CUSA at this point.

9/18/2011 2:57:13 AM

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"SLITHER OF HOPE"

9/18/2011 3:00:53 AM

motherfucker, i didn't read who i was replying to.

that's my bad everyone, sorry.

9/18/2011 3:36:50 AM

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" I'd rather be CUSA at this point."

lolban

9/18/2011 4:50:32 AM

espn's crawl is saying they've officially been accepted

WE PLAYIN BAS-KET-BALL

9/18/2011 8:31:08 AM

Not sure why we would pick up Texas.

I can see us going for UConn, though.

9/18/2011 9:06:02 AM

I hate that damn orangeman mascot.

Ugh

9/18/2011 9:25:12 AM

^^I'm not sure why we would pick up UConn. If everything was about basketball we wouldn't have ever added Miami and VT. And I got the impression from last year's Fiesta bowl that a lot of their fans aren't big into football (not to mention there is no telling where that program will go without Randy Edsal).

9/18/2011 9:38:18 AM

We will never win an ACC championship in football or basketball again.

9/18/2011 9:40:31 AM

Yeah because we were in the driver's seat for a championship in both before we added Pitt and Syracuse.

9/18/2011 9:46:09 AM

You guys think im trolling because I'm not delusional enough to believe we can somehow compete with duke unc syracuse texas and pitt in basketball. It was a pipe dream with just duke and unc, now its just not plausible. Sorry to spit out the koolaid we were all supposed to have just drank.

When you had a 12 team conference there was room for a 3rd great team because mathematically somebody else had to rake up wins vs the other 10 teams. It had been a mix of FSU, VT and Maryland and we had the chance to become that team consistently. Somebody was going to do it.

Now in a 14-16 team conference with ~1/3rd powerhouses there is no room for someone to get by.

To everyone who thinks im trolling:
(specifically simonn and saps852

What is your outlook on this whole thing for ncstate?
Why is this good? More money? more attention? more games against top teams? Is that it? Thats success?

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 9:47 AM. Reason : be real here]

9/18/2011 9:46:18 AM

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"More money? more attention? more games against top teams?"

Yeah, all those things are nice. You don't have to go undefeated in a basketball conference to be successful. There are plenty of ways to define success - beating rivals, beating good teams, making a run in the conference tournament, getting a nice seed in the NCAA tournament, 20+ wins in a season. Adding two more good basketball teams does not prevent us from accomplishing any of those things.

Championship or bust is a stupid mentality for a NC State basketball fan (well, pretty much any college basketball fan)

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 9:57 AM. Reason : and yes, I know I just described the Herb era]

9/18/2011 9:51:53 AM

Duke, UNC, and Syracuse are all likely to undergo major changes in the next 5 years or so. 5 years from now it could be the Jamie Dixon and Mark Gottfried show for all we know. Powers come and go through the years and new ones emerge. Do you think Butler got where it is by whining about how there are too many super powers to overcome in the NCAA tournie?

9/18/2011 9:59:27 AM

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"When you had a 12 team conference there was room for a 3rd great team because mathematically somebody else had to rake up wins vs the other 10 teams. It had been a mix of FSU, VT and Maryland and we had the chance to become that team consistently. Somebody was going to do it. Now in a 14-16 team conference with ~1/3rd powerhouses there is no room for someone to get by."

So the 9th place team in a 16 team league has no chance at being great and winning a national title?

9/18/2011 10:00:37 AM

every teamin the country has a chance at winning a national title so thats not a good measuring stick. Thats like saying we make a bowl game in football. A team that does not consistently finish in the top 4th of its conference can not be considered a great program. Decent programs can't reel in great coaches and decent coaches can't consistently reel in elite talent and teams without elite talent can rarely consistently beat teams with elite talent.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 10:19 AM. Reason : at least its 3 more years of bball before they join]

9/18/2011 10:06:21 AM

hasn't there been talk about a pod system, sort of like the NFL divisions, rather than only two divisions? I would really prefer that - it would help make the regional rivalries strong even with a huge goddamn conference. Also, don't name them...

Group A.
Pitt
Syracuse
BC
UConn

Group B.
Maryland
UVa
Virginia Tech
Wild Card team TBD

Group C.
Duke
NC State
UNC
Wake Forest

Group D.
Clemson
GT
FSU
Miami

This way every team plays round robin in basketball against its group, and always plays all three teams in its group each in football. Then each group plays another group each year, like Group D plays Group A, yankees vs deep south.

I guess you might then want one bonus conference game for each team to get it up to 8 conference games/season. This way, all the herda-hadas that don't want to play more yankee schools could at least be assured it would only happen once every three seasons.

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 10:37 AM. Reason : its not it's]

[Edited on September 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/18/2011 10:37:17 AM

I like the idea of pods. It keeps your primary travel more localized so it'd help keep costs down, plus the regional rivalries are important and should be encouraged.

But I don't think playing 1 division each year would work out that well. Maybe you play your pod, plus one guaranteed non-pod team each year (We'd play Clemson, for instance, UNC would play UVA, and so forth...). Then just alternate through the rest of the conference.

9/18/2011 10:49:17 AM

I really don't want Texas. At least the east coast thing makes sense. I'm already sick enough with these massive conferences for money's sake that do nothing but make schools more money.

Get Rutgers and UConn, call it a day, put them in a grouping with BC and Cuse. Everyone shares DAT $$$ and we shut up about this forever.

9/18/2011 11:09:40 AM

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"Yeah because we were in the driver's seat for a championship in both before we added Pitt and Syracuse."

That's my point. You think are odds are better now with Pitt and Syracuse??

9/18/2011 11:13:23 AM

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"Maybe you play your pod, plus one guaranteed non-pod team each year (We'd play Clemson, for instance, UNC would play UVA, and so forth...). Then just alternate through the rest of the conference."

the only reason that wouldn't work is for the years when UVa and UNC would play as part of a pod vs pod matchup, so they couldn't also play as an "annual rivalry" game. Maybe it could be scheduled around though.

9/18/2011 11:19:29 AM

Please don't add UConn and Rutgers... They bring very little to the conference...

9/18/2011 11:32:07 AM

^Agreed...definitely not Rutgers.

9/18/2011 11:33:20 AM

But, Rutgers could pair up with it's in-state rival Duke in an epic Jersey battle every year.

9/18/2011 11:35:15 AM

Why couldn't we find teams to add down south. Why the friggin CUSE and Pitt?

9/18/2011 11:39:44 AM

Yeah, like South Alabama!

9/18/2011 11:45:51 AM

^^What southern teams do you suggest? I don't think any SEC teams are going anywhere. And I'd rather raid the Big East than C-USA or some other non-BCS conference

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9/18/2011 11:46:14 AM