i'm at unc, and i have to say that the CSO office has been extremely accommodating. They seem to go out of their way to make sure you have a good opportunity at landing a nice job (which i admit, may have a lot to do with getting the rankings back in the twenties.)

2/23/2009 10:36:10 PM

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" Maybe then I'll have a decent shot at a ranked school and if not I'll just grab a PhD and try to teach somewher"

can i just ask---why do you only want to go if you can get into a ranked school?

2/23/2009 11:15:19 PM

^I'll have to ask the same thing.

First...with the "legit cash" question that was first posted...I think he needs to do a little bit more research into the legal employment world right now. Just because you graduate from UNC law school in no way even guarantees you a job right now...much less what he seems to think is an automatic "legit cash" job. Might want to start talking to some current law students and graduates (of the "ranked" schools nonetheless) and see how many are expecting to or are making "legit cash" right now.

Second, it seems that you do really well in school, just not the standardized tests. So you could probably thrive well at a lower tiered school and have a good shot at maybe landing a really good job.

Third, I don't even know if a 160 is going to get you into UNC. They're still going to average the two scores, and 155 is pretty well below their average. Your GPA is nice...but UNC admissions are GPA whores, and a 3.77 in poly-sci is pretty par for the course for their. If you're going for the UNC/UVA/upper tier (you might have a shot at Wake if your re-take is 160), you should be shooting for at least a 165...or wait three years for your score to clear and take it again. I hate to be a downer, but that 150 is going to hurt you for the next three years.

Last...if the LSAT freaks you out...good luck on the Bar exam. Holy-fuckin-shit. The LSAT is like a high school biology quiz compared to the Bar exam.

[Edited on February 24, 2009 at 12:21 AM. Reason : .]

2/24/2009 12:19:51 AM

yeah i guess I've taken it one step at a time with the LSAT/Bar comparison. I'm not trying to seem like a money grubber the reason I said "legit cash" (which now makes me look silly) is just to qualify the costs of Campbell or a private school, as in, will I have enough money to pay off my loans in a reasonable amount of time. Campbell is definitely one of my top choices just because I'm from Raleigh I was just concerned over the T4 ranking and the job market after school. And as for CSOL I just couldn't find any decent information on it on my own.

I didn't realize UNC averaged LSAT scores, I thought that the most schools took the highest score.

Another question, I'm severely ADD, in fact ADHD and I have paperwork that goes back to kindergarten. If I retook the LSAT under "disability" conditions, i.e. more time on the test (which would dramatically improve my games score) would a disability test compensate for the 150, and/or does it make me look bad to test under those conditions? I also have documented test anxiety.

2/24/2009 1:53:32 AM

UNC doesn't average your scores. They look at your highest, but if it's a close choice between keeping you and denying you, then they look at your other scores as well. It will only help you to take it again, but you are going to need to show them the first time was a fluke.

2/24/2009 8:07:42 AM

If you take it again with extra time and such the schools would still just be looking at the score. The idea of the accommodations is to make it so they can compare just the scores. So basically if you take it under disability conditions there will not be any allowance etc for a lower score.

^^^ I'll echo that being at a ranked school doesn't mean instant job. At W&M, probably about 25% of the 3L class and 50% of the 2L class are still jobless. Even at UNC, Wake, UVA, W&M, W&L you still have to do well compared with your classmates. Job prospects in law school are all relative to your classmates. Being top 10% at UNC is better than being top 50% at UVA. However, you ultimately have more options at higher ranked schools. More employers recruit at higher ranked schools. One way to find out who interviews where visit http://www.nalpdirectory.com/dledir_search_advanced.asp Toward the bottom of the page enter the school you're interested in and it'll show you who interviews on campus there. For some comparison, Duke has 591 employers come on campus, CSOL has 24. It's just a reality that in the eyes of a lot of employers a school's ranking matters.

You should be asking schools how many employers interview on campus, and what percentage are large, med and small firms, how many are government and public service jobs. A lot of schools also track average exiting salary information for their students and will tell you if ask. Be wary of admissions people who give you examples of individual students who landed nice jobs. Often times those students are the exception rather than the rule. You want to hear total numbers of how many have firm jobs, how many have clerkships, how many gov, how many public interest.

2/24/2009 10:31:52 AM

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"You should be asking schools how many employers interview on campus, and what percentage are large, med and small firms, how many are government and public service jobs. A lot of schools also track average exiting salary information for their students and will tell you if ask. Be wary of admissions people who give you examples of individual students who landed nice jobs. Often times those students are the exception rather than the rule. You want to hear total numbers of how many have firm jobs, how many have clerkships, how many gov, how many public interest."

This is really good advice. I know UNC's CSO has lists of information they can give to prospective students. They keep catalogs of every class. It lists which students got jobs, who they applied with, who interviewed in the On Campus Interview sessions, and ultimately where everyone went and even if they were paid or unpaid. They do this for permanent jobs, as well as summer employment.


[Edited on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM. Reason : ]

2/24/2009 11:27:56 AM

Thanks minderbinder that was really helpful.

As for the disability testing, I wasn't asking if a lower score under those conditions would be favored differently, I was asking if they would look down on the fact that I was testing under disability conditions.

I should have registered for a disability test initially but I thought they would discriminate against it. Also, if I do retake under those conditions, could I write an addendum or something saying that the reason I did so poorly on the first LSAT is because I wasn't testing under disability conditions?

2/24/2009 9:09:38 PM

god i wish had a reason to get more time on that test!

i didnt even finish 2 sections, i could have gotten into the place of my choosing if i had time to finish

2/24/2009 9:11:59 PM

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" * If you receive additional test time as an accommodation for your disability, LSAC will send a statement with your LSDAS Law School Reports advising that your score(s) should be interpreted with great sensitivity and flexibility. * Scores earned with additional test time are reported individually and will not be averaged with standard-time scores or other nonstandard-time scores. * Percentile ranks of nonstandard-time scores are not available and will not be reported. * All information related to your request for accommodations will remain confidential unless you authorize its release. If you want this information to be sent with your law school reports, you must complete and submit the Authorization to Release Information Form (page 4 of the Candidate Form) included in the Accommodations Request Packet. "

That's what the LSAT information says. So, if you're going that route, you might want to explain the difference in your scores, but then you might be stuck explaining why you didn't "have" the disability the first time around. Not that big of a deal, but something you might want to think about.

I would practice, study more, and then make that decision when it gets closer to test time, you don't have to register your disability when you register for the LSAT, so you'll have some time to think about it. You can take practice LSATs (where they call time and it's all official) and see how you do. If you still feel you need the extra time, then apply for it. But if you can substantially improve the scores without the extra boost it might save you an extra hassle in the long run. And if you decide you need the extra time, it's not like you wasted anything by studying.

2/24/2009 9:47:45 PM

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"i didnt even finish 2 sections, i could have gotten into the place of my choosing if i had time to finish studied"

meh. you win some, you lose some i should have probably studied though. i would take the advice listed in this thread, practice, take a class, and if you still feel like you need the extra time, then register for it. and a top tier school isn't necessarily going to make or break your chances of making $$$.

also visit some schools and research programs. you may find that a certain school is a better fit for what you want to do than just choosing a school based on a ranking. plus, even if you dominate the LSAT next time, picking a lower tiered school might result in greater scholarship opportunities---less money to pay back---more money in your pocket when you land a job. all things to take into account.

[Edited on February 24, 2009 at 10:48 PM. Reason : .]

2/24/2009 10:47:07 PM

I feel for you ThatGoodLock I didn't finish half of the games section. I can't count how many hours I studied. I agree that a course would have helped, I did the whole Princeton Review book cover to cover but sometimes a tutor can just make it make more sense.

2/24/2009 11:20:11 PM

i'll probably sell my old LSAT study books for cheap, a neighbor also gave me at least 30 books for free on law school (beating the law school dragon, law school confidential, the scary warning type ones)

also i studied for longer than most people probably did because i had to postpone my actual test date, my father died a few days before the test the first time around. no way i was going to that test. so i had already studied for 2-3 months at that point and then added 3 more.

[Edited on February 25, 2009 at 3:14 PM. Reason : f]

2/25/2009 3:11:45 PM

I have almost two full sets of Kaplan study materials. I took the class, lost the main book, and had to repurchase all the books. Therefore, that's what I mean when I say almost two full sets. Most of the books are hardly used.

Someone PM me an offer and I will sell them.

2/26/2009 10:33:50 AM

This may not be on par with the thread but I have a few general questions for practicing attorneys:

First of all, I'm going through a major fork in the road of my life. On one side I can go study abroad (namely at Cambridge) and pursue my masters and later a PhD in comparative politics and then try to teach at a university. On the other hand, I can go to law school which my parents are definitely pushing me for (not to say I don't like law or don't want to practice, I do, but I am worried about a few things).

1) Is being a lawyer fun and/or rewarding?
2) Is being a lawyer extremely stressful and/or boring with all of the paperwork?
3) If I wanted to pursue International Law and then get an LLM in England what is the likelihood of finding an international law job?
4) What exactly do international lawyers do? Do they travel extensively? Is it profitable compared to the other fields of law?
5) How many hours a week do lawywers work the first start out?

Thanks

2/27/2009 6:23:05 PM

if you can read 1000 pages overnight about a topic you absolutely have no interest in then youll be ok

2/27/2009 7:54:23 PM

are you talking about daily? or when you cram for an exam? or are we talking about actual lawyering (word)??

[Edited on February 28, 2009 at 9:32 PM. Reason : ?]

2/28/2009 9:31:10 PM

well you're talking to another law school hopeful (2010) here but ive read 2 or 3 of the law school prep books that try and make sure you know what you're getting into and the basic ideas are

1) the school you pick is important both for job reasons and the type of law you want to study, as well as how competitive/community based you want your classes
2) get ready to read. ALOT.
3) lose the social life, unless it happens to be with other law students or your spouse (and even then it will be little time)

2/28/2009 10:41:17 PM

^, that's all a load of shit in my book.

From my experience at Carolina (and of course, it could be different elsewhere), law school is not nearly as demanding, stressful, competitive, etc. as people make it out to be. Everyone wants to pretend like it's the paper chase, but in reality its not nearly as bad as most of the 40 hour a week jobs I've had.
I have plenty of free time, and I'm not stuck reading 300 pages a night. In fact, I quickly learned after the first semester/year, its not about endlessly scouring over all the cases and readings, its about knowing how to take a law school exam. I've just been reading hand me down outlines for tests since the first semester (rarely even skimming the actual cases), and I've had about a 3.6 - 3.7 gpa since then.

Truth is, at least at UNC, if you don't buy into the hype you will be just fine. The only ones at my school that seem to be the stereotypical nut-jobs are the early twenty something, ultra type As that have nervous break-downs after getting a B or B+.

[Edited on March 1, 2009 at 12:15 AM. Reason : ddd]

3/1/2009 12:09:44 AM

well yeah like i said it depends on what school you go to, theres always extremes like Yale and NYU

but its nice to hear Carolina isn't like that, personally i dont think id be too stressed anyways because ive worked/studied 60-80 hours since i was in high school so a 40 hour work week is something very foreign to me

3/1/2009 10:27:17 AM

^^That's been my experience so far as well (also at UNC). There are a few people who go crazy on reading and really do go overboard, but for the most part, you'll fall into a routine. I wouldn't recommend going out of town every weekend, but you won't be stuck at home studying all the time. Now, I do actually do all the assigned reading, but even so, I spend 3 hours on homework a night, which isn't so bad when you get home at 3pm. Once exams roll around, I'll focus less on reading for class, and more on preparing for exams. But it's all a process you have to work through. I seriously wouldn't agree with the last two things ^^^ posted.

I don't want this to come across as UNC being "easy." Because it is challenging, and if you aren't prepared for exams, then you're screwed. But it's manageable, nothing to freak out over.

[Edited on March 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM. Reason : ]

3/1/2009 10:36:20 AM

I had more fun in law school then I did in undergrad. But I'm probably an outlier.

3/1/2009 4:33:25 PM

haha tucker max style?

thanks that definitely helps my descision. my lawyer is a carolina grad and he said just about the same things (not to call out a carolina trend). I applied to about 15 schools and I think I'll get into a decent one. I don't mind reading at all, and three hours of studying a day is very manageable.

Any practicing attorneys have any advice on the work week once your out of law school?

3/1/2009 7:17:48 PM

Just a word of advice to those applying to law schools, and particularly to UNC: I hope this is common sense for most of you, but admissions offices do look at your facebooks, myspaces and whatnot. Our Dean of Admissions said they didn't base their entire decision on what they found online, but that it did influence them.

3/1/2009 7:25:28 PM

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" Any practicing attorneys have any advice on the work week once your out of law school?"

Again...it really depends on what you end up doing.

My old roommate is a clerk and has an average 9-5 working for a judge. His older brother works for one of the bigger firms in the Southeast and puts in some 50 hour weeks, and then some 70-80 hour weeks if they're preparing for a big trial.

My current roommate works for a big real estate firm and puts in about 55-60 hour week.

Me and my partner put in about 40-50 hour weeks. We had a slow December and sometimes only worked about 30 hours (we have a general practice).

3/1/2009 7:29:48 PM

thanks for the practical advice, how difficult is it to start a practice out of law school? did you put in a few years experience anywhere or just start it up straight out?

3/1/2009 7:41:15 PM

It really depends. In general, it's really difficult to start straight out of law school. You've either got to have a niche, or some plan that's going to get you a lot of clients.

My situation:

I had no idea what I was going to do. I bartended full time during law school, saved up a lot of money, didn't do too much clerking or any other work (worked for one judge for half a summer), and really didn't even know if I was going to practice law at all.

Took the Bar exam, went backpacking in Europe, came back about two weeks before the results were going to be released and started helping a friend who went solo about 6 months ago (actually lent him some money to get started). He worked for a huge firm right out of law school, but quit after a year. He was really social in law school, class president, good friends with all the professors, etc. So he gets a shit ton of referrals. When someone in a real estate firm gets a family law matter, they send it to him, stuff like that.

I don't think I could do it on my own because I didn't make enough connections during law school (although I've brought in a considerable amount of clients because of knowing people through my bartending gig). But we're definitely not hurting for clients...the trouble these days is getting people to pay. We pretty much don't extend credit to anybody anymore.

3/1/2009 8:10:20 PM

I interned for a civil law firm for a year and we had the same problem: people not paying. she (the senior partner) did the same thing, not extending credit. She wouldn't even give free consultations.

3/2/2009 3:16:10 PM

i am 1/2 way to getting an interview and i'm really excited because it is for the job i REALLY REALLY REALLY want this summer.

got e-mailed for times i am available to come in. that is why i say "1/2 way" because i'm scared i won't get e-mailed back or something. like e-mail correspondence seems so sketch sometimes. like what if it gets to his inbox and he doesn't see it?

anyway fingers crossed. i know an interview doesn't mean anything (have had tons of them before and still haven't gotten anywhere) but i haven't even gotten to the interview stage in a few months so, i am happy. plus it is for the job i really, really, really want. i don't know how to convey that in an interview without sounding beggy. it isn't because i want something on my resume, it is because this is actually what i would like to do as a career.

3/6/2009 1:12:00 PM

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"it is because this is actually what i would like to do as a career."

And that is what you tell the employer/recruiter.

3/7/2009 10:32:20 PM

I have always heard that if you use disability during the LSAT or the Bar, it will be held against you.

Sadly, the only time you will see money from people is in the form of a retainer. My firm requires a retainer unless it is special circumstances. Sometimes that retainer is the only money that we ever see. We do sue our clients that do not pay and the client pays the judgment in a matter of months.

Several attorneys have a reputation for taking a low retainer ($2k) and running through it. They just withdraw halfway through the case.

I am also seeing more attorney fees being awarded in Family law situations.

3/9/2009 5:40:52 PM

What Rule is it that allows third-year practice certificates? I have looked on Lexis, but it is probably called something different and my search isn't yielding much.

Never mind, found it under NC Bar Rules Subchap. 1C. Now I just got to get the ball rolling on the paper work.

Ohh yeah, it's not called a third year practice certificate, its called a legal inter certificate.

[Edited on March 18, 2009 at 1:09 PM. Reason : Found it]

[Edited on March 18, 2009 at 1:10 PM. Reason : Ohh yeah]

3/18/2009 12:50:57 PM

^ That would be a local Bar rule most likely. I would check the NC Bar website.

should have read your whole post first. i fail...oh wait, no i didn't you are editing right now. HAHA!



Can anyone tell me anything about the market in Greensboro and the surrounding Guilford county towns?



[Edited on March 18, 2009 at 1:11 PM. Reason : .]

3/18/2009 1:10:15 PM

apparently people keep telling me greensboro is one of the hardest hit areas by the recession. i haven't like heard anything to verify this (like on the news or anything, i don't really have time to watch that stuff). but i do know law firms are laying off people, the govt is on a hiring freeze, and like a lot of the 3Ls do not have jobs

the ones that do are not staying here

3/18/2009 4:41:50 PM

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"and like a lot of the 3Ls do not have jobs"

For real, we all picked the wrong time to go to law school

3/18/2009 5:29:07 PM

I wouldn't say that's true across the board for Greensboro. There are some practices that are doing well. I'm interning this summer (and have worked in the past) for DLG. They specialize in Workers Comp and Social Security. It's booming right now. They just hired two new attorneys, three new paralegals and upgraded their office building. Their new commercials went out this week, and phones are off the hook with potential clients calling in. I think it really depends on the type of firm as to how well things are going right now.

[Edited on March 18, 2009 at 9:55 PM. Reason : ]

3/18/2009 9:45:28 PM

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"There are some practices that are doing well. I'm interning this summer (and have worked in the past) for DLG. They specialize in Workers Comp and Social Security."

Worker's Comp, Social Security, and Bankruptcy (duh) are the pretty much the only areas of practice that are doing well right now. Family Law is still booming, but people just aren't paying (the problem you don't have with Worker's Comp, SS, and Bankruptcy on at least one side).

And yes, as someone said earlier...this year, last year, and probably next year...not a good time to be coming out of law school.

3/19/2009 8:43:37 AM

I just got my first acceptance back -- to Charlotte School of Law

anyone have any thought on the school?

3/24/2009 2:25:22 PM

I would wait to hear from other places first before accepting. It's still early.

I haven't bumped into anyone interning from there, haven't heard of anyone that went to school there. Nothing.

They are graduating their first class this spring.

3/24/2009 2:30:05 PM

Wait it out. Charlotte is run by a company that opens law schools for profit. Not saying that's all bad, but it doesn't necessarily align their interests with yours. They've currently just got provisional accreditation from the ABA, and according to NALP they don't have any employers that interview on campus there.

3/24/2009 2:57:39 PM

yeah I was a bit sketched out by them. the company owns Charleston Law too (and Phoenix)....

I'm really hoping for Campbell as I'm from Raleigh, go to State, and have somewhat of a good network of friends here which I would benefit from.

Does anyone know how much criminal history affects admissions decisions? I guess that's what I'm most worried about. I have a 3.77, a 150 and a ton of honor societies, service, honors program, scholarships for study abroad, etc. but in high school I ran into some pot/drinking charges. I got stuck with one drinking ticket but the rest were dropped with no stipulations and were really explainable situations. I also got a drinking ticket in college which was dropped as well. I reported everything to the schools, citation numbers, court dates, fines, etc. to be honest and clear about it.

3/24/2009 3:21:58 PM

^ as long as it's something that you can attribute to just being stupid when you were younger... i wouldn't worry about it. if it's a huge pattern of reckless behavior, you better have a good explanation. if i were you though, i wouldn't worry about it that much. decent lsat, decent gpa... you're bound to get into a few places. good luck, and let me know if there's anything i can help you with or answer for you.

3/24/2009 4:32:05 PM

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"yeah I was a bit sketched out by them. the company owns Charleston Law too (and Phoenix)...."

To my knowledge (and please tell me if I'm wrong)...but Charleston School of Law isn't run by a company. It's run by a group of lawyers and judges in the Charleston area. Charleston is also accredited now. Don't see any reason to be sketched out by that.

3/25/2009 12:47:50 AM

i thought the consortium was charlotte, phoenix and florida international?

i could be wrong. but yes, i would wait and see where else you get in. if you got into charlotte with a big scholarship though, it might be worth looking into just because law school is expensive. but i thought it was charlotte, phoenix and fl international.

^^^ wow no employers that interview on campus? nevermind. if no one interviews on campus i wouldn't go there. if you don't get in anywhere else, i'd take time off and reapply. IF the no interviewing on campus is true. and minor drinking tickets shouldn't affect your admissions. especially if you did supplemental essays, which most schools require if you have any criminal history.

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 2:01 AM. Reason : .]

3/25/2009 1:58:59 AM

Good to hear CSOL is accredited now, that's one of my top picks simply because of location, man I love Charleston.

I didn't write any "supplemental essay" but I wrote an explanation of conduct that addressed each issue and explained the circumstances and why they were dropped. I wrote a brief paragraph or two before I explain the charges that basically says that I won't make excuses for my actions and I definitely learned from my experiences and have made strides to change. One of my letters of recommendation is from a court of appeals judge so hopefully that will help too.

If worse comes to worse, how difficult is it to transfer to say Campbell, Wake, or UNC from a school like Charlotte, Elon, or NCCU?

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 2:01 PM. Reason : .]

3/25/2009 2:00:32 PM

^I wouldn't put Elon and Charlotte in with NCCU as NCCU is fairly established, and while they might not have a high ranking, they still have a solid reputation. So I think it would be easier to transfer from a school like NCCU if you have very solid grades. You might have to knock it out the park to transfer from a school like Elon or Charlotte if they haven't gotten provisional accreditation yet (for some reason I think they both have, but could be wrong). I know you couldn't transfer out of CSOL until we got provisional accreditation, but somehow I actually knew a kid that transferred to USC (backwards SC will let you do anything if you know someone).

3/25/2009 2:40:37 PM

I go to Elon and we had people transfer to Campbell and Wake from my class. But yes, you would probably need to be in the top 20% AT LEAST of your class to have that option. I thought about transferring as well, but then realized that for me, it wasn't worth it (financially). Plus I didn't really see a difference in transferring from Elon to Campbell besides location. Wake, yes, is probably a different story, but the guy that I know that transferred from my class still has the same problems we are facing at Elon as far as job prospects, and law school dynamics, etc. So from his perspective, a law school is a law school.

But like I said before, UNC doesn't accept in-state transfers, per their website, save for a "good reason" which doesn't include better program, course offerings, etc, etc. This is just what their website says regarding transferring from an instate law program to UNC.

And I also wouldn't loop Charlotte and Elon in with Central. Central has an established program with an extensive alumni network. It also seems like a great value (tuition wise).

I think that you will find, accreditation aside, which Elon and Charlotte both have the provisional stuff, that transferring from NCCU, Elon, or Charlotte to Campbell, you aren't going to find a huge difference in the schools. Yes, Campbell has the alumni network. But especially Elon and Campbell, VERY similar programs. And a lot of the same administrators that used to be at Campbell are at Elon. And UNC I do not think accepts transfers so you are probably out of luck there. You could always do a visiting student thing as a 2nd or 3rd year if you really feel the desire to go to another school.

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 5:15 PM. Reason : .]

3/25/2009 5:12:58 PM

No offense to anyone, but I have never understood those that choose to go to Campbell or Elon over NCCU. NCCU is a fraction of the cost, they are all Tier 4 schools and all fill the same level of firms when they get out. Plus, NCCU definitely has the best clinic in the state, it's top 20 in the nation.

If you think that you are interested in pursuing an LLM in Taxation, NCCU has all of them beat. NCCU places several students each year into Florida and Georgetown. I am not altogether positive, but I think those two schools are 1 and 2 in the country for that specialty. If they aren't 1 and 2 they are 2 and 3. The people that I know that went to those schools walked out STARTING at about 140,000 a year.

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]

3/26/2009 1:12:47 PM

No offense, if you want to get an LLM in tax, you should jump off a bridge. I just cant imagine putting myself through anymore studying. I have heard great things about NCCU and tax LLMs.

As far as where you go to law school, if you know the right person, you can get any job you desire.

In terms of preparation for practice, I am slowly learning that law school is similar to using the rhythm method for BC. It is effective only 70% of the time. Sometimes I feel mislead by professors as to what really happens out in the real world. The rules of civ pro and evidence are optional.

WC and SS are good areas to go into, but you are limited in what you can get from each case. There essentially is a cap at what you can make over the lifetime of your career, kind of like a pharmacist. In this economy, it would be a wise career choice. It sounds like you got a great clerkship.

Our new family law solution is to essentially file suit and stick the parties in mediation. Let them resolve as much as possible on the cheap and then litigate the real issues.

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 5:52 PM. Reason : school = gross]

3/26/2009 5:49:45 PM

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"The rules of civ pro and evidence are optional."

i know seriously. i'm not even done with law school and found this out very quickly the first time i just sat in court. and then through internships. i was more shocked to see a rule followed.

^^ that is true. sometimes i wish i had gone to central instead of elon (well i really wish i had known campbell was moving before i started school, because i would have waited to go there). but that isn't necessarily true cost-wise if scholarships are involved. but nccu does have great clinical programs, which is seriously something to think about. new schools seem all shiny and fancy and they lure you in with $$$ so it is hard to remember to think about the fact that programs, like clinics, won't be as established. this is both a good and a bad thing. bad because lots of nuts and bolts and kinks to work out, but good because you are able to help start and create something. and because you are in charge of laying the foundation for the school's relationship with the community. but i didn't really think about a lot of things i should have when choosing a school. i don't really feel that disadvantaged though because the schools i was choosing from were all about the same caliber anyway (campbell, elon, nccu, vermont). and because i realized transferring doesn't make as big of a difference as i thought it did. i mean yes, if you are transferring from like central to harvard. but that doesn't happen. most kids i know that transferred to better programs are in the same boat they were at my school. however, that is also probably a result of the current economy, which kind of levels the playing field (yayy everyone is screwed!). so who knows.

3/26/2009 8:24:58 PM