1/17/2017 9:00:58 PM

Atleast he's a really good dunker

1/17/2017 9:32:06 PM

The last 1:30 just proved that Smith isn't ready for primetime. He may draft well because of his upside, but I hope teams don't expect him to be lights out from the start or they'll be disappointed.

I don't know if Dorn in Kapita are in the doghouse or if Markell just got a lot more play because he showed energy and hustle and passed better than Smith.

Won't complain too much, I'm just glad we got a win.

1/17/2017 10:24:29 PM

Yeah it's weird how Dorn's minutes have gone down...Henderson and Mav played well tonight and so did Markell. But there's been games recently when those guys weren't playing well that I thought Dorn deserved more time.

Kapita maybe just wasn't a good matchup against a smaller lineup like Pitt. We went small a lot tonight because of Pitt's lineup.

1/17/2017 10:29:23 PM

SuperDude, are you suggesting that DSJ would benefit from returning for one more year? A little more seasoning? If so I would be down for the Gott Hyper Loop to continue to the next testing phase.

1/17/2017 10:51:14 PM

Yeah, he'd benefit to stay another year, but the money is calling and I don't expect him to stay. He's easily a first rounder, although I think he's playing himself into the late first round. Granted, scouts may be so high on his upside that he can still be a lottery pick.

1/17/2017 11:10:34 PM

IMO, going small with only one big man is by far the best option this team has.

-Better transition offense and defense
-Better spacing and penetration
-Better ballhandling and passing
-And surprisingly, better rebounding. We were +15 in rebounding tonight, and Pitt is a good rebounding team. IIRC, Tony said it was the biggest rebounding advantage we'd had in an ACC game in years. Guess it's just better quickness helping us get to more loose balls.

Hopefully we stay with small ball the rest of the year. Highly doubtful since Gott prefers playing two bigs, but one can hope

1/17/2017 11:23:38 PM

Yeah I'm sure dsj would get better if he played another year of college ball. But he'll also get better if he's in the NBA. And he's a guaranteed top 10 or better pick. That's 100% the right choice to go pro.

1/17/2017 11:36:29 PM

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"although I think he's playing himself into the late first round"

lol

1/17/2017 11:39:35 PM

^
You've seen the games so you see the glaring holes. Not a great shooter. Not a great decision maker. Terrible on-ball defender. He's getting by on his athleticism and his ball-handling skills and the idea that he'll improve in all the other areas.

Again, he's got upside, much like *cough* Marvin Williams *cough* back in the day to make himself a lottery pick. He likely won't reach his full potential until he's 23. He'll definitely have growing pains and whatever team that drafts him will have to accept them.

1/18/2017 12:01:24 AM

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"I hope teams don't expect him to be lights out from the start or they'll be disappointed."

I'm no expert on NBA drafting, but I don't think that's how it works.

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" He may draft well because of his upside"

Wait, yes I am. That is how it works

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"Yeah it's weird how Dorn's minutes have gone down...Henderson and Mav played well tonight and so did Markell. But there's been games recently when those guys weren't playing well that I thought Dorn deserved more time. "

Agreed.

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"SuperDude, are you suggesting that DSJ would benefit from returning for one more year? A little more seasoning?"

Plz don't jerk off ITT.

1/18/2017 12:04:08 AM

Hard to play Dorn last night since it was a bad match-up defensively and he was getting shot over at will. I like Dorn's game, his efficiency is crazy, but we were trying to maximize our defense and he was in a tough spot.

It was like Anya, he is clearly our best defender but he's so out of shape they were just killing him on ball screens and pulling him away from the basket.

DSJ staying another year would be insane. You don't pass up a top 5 draft grade for another year of developing in college, ESPECIALLY when you've already had a major knee injury. He's definitely going to struggle early, but he'll end up being a special player.

Yurtseven should stay, but it really depends on how the rest of his season goes. Right now he's not projected as a lottery pick, but obviously if he keeps putting up numbers like last night he could play his way into that high of a projection. It's hard to tell a kid projected to go in the lottery to stay another year.

1/18/2017 6:56:09 AM

At least there's a fanbase as miserable as ours.

From their boards:

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" Sorry, but that Wolfpack sign with their hands is really pathetic."

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" Our hand symbol would just be a thumbs down."

1/18/2017 8:11:37 AM

Dorn literally missed 8 points in a row at one point, including 3 free throws. that's why his ass is sitting

1/18/2017 8:26:00 AM

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"Hard to play Dorn last night since it was a bad match-up defensively and he was getting shot over at will. I like Dorn's game, his efficiency is crazy, but we were trying to maximize our defense and he was in a tough spot. "

Yeah that's fair and accurate imo. But his minutes have been going down before last night.

^yeah that's true. he missed some fts vs unc too I think. Not so much last night specifically, just pointing out that his minutes have taken a big hit recently. Granted, most of that has to do with Mav coming back. But Mav's had some bad games in this stretch too.

1/18/2017 8:47:55 AM

also, if gott was serious about defense, then rowan's minutes would be reduced as he is an abomination on that end of the floor.

1/18/2017 9:03:59 AM

^^^

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"his minutes have been going down before last night."

1/18/2017 9:23:51 AM

^^dude, we get it. sheesh.

1/18/2017 9:33:20 AM

CAN'T LET YOU FORGET MY UNDYING HATED BRO

1/18/2017 9:40:29 AM

Rowan at least TRIES on defense. That's more than we've been able to say about half our team before last night's game.

Plus they tried throwing a zone at us, only reason we kept them out of it was Henderson and Rowan knocking down 3's. Small ball will work fairly well, but we're going to face some teams that are going to crush us when we try to run it too much.

We really need good Abu to show back up, the one that was averaging a double-double in ACC play last year.

1/18/2017 10:26:02 AM

he doesn't try. he's constantly out of position.

1/18/2017 10:37:00 AM

is the consensus that we still suck or nah?

1/18/2017 10:38:52 AM

we're not good...

1/18/2017 10:43:17 AM

not good. they had multiple wide open threes at the end, even to tie, and they just missed.

[Edited on January 18, 2017 at 10:59 AM. Reason : s]

1/18/2017 10:58:50 AM

Positives from this game:

1. Yurt finally looked like an impact player.
2. Mav found his 3pt stroke and hit a couple big shots.
3. We won a close game and didn't collapse when we got down 7-8 pts in the 2nd half.
4. The defense was actually solid the final ~8 minutes.
5. Won a game in which DSJ was not good.

Negatives:

1. Our D still sucks. It's insane that every team can hit 40%+ against us from 3.
2. DSJ was pretty bad and continues his up and down trend game to game.

1/18/2017 11:30:01 AM

And not to take away from yurt's good game. But Pitt is very small, so that's the type of game he should have against an undersized opponent.

1/18/2017 11:56:09 AM

You can see Yurt's upside, but he is pretty soft.

Needs to get stronger and come back next year!

1/18/2017 12:07:26 PM

would be nice, but he will probably declare or transfer.

1/18/2017 12:10:24 PM

I can't think of a bigger disappointment in recent memory than BJ. Guys like Scoot and Fells "underperformed" due to their blue chip status, but they were still valuable assets to the team.

1/18/2017 12:14:59 PM

^If you ever talk shit about Scooter Sherrill again i will find you.

1/18/2017 1:41:22 PM

Dynasty2004 has a very particular set of skills

1/18/2017 2:05:03 PM

???

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"they were still valuable assets to the team."

How was that shit talking?



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1/18/2017 3:06:38 PM

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"would be nice, but he will probably declare or transfer. "

No he's not transferring. He could be a top 20 if he went pro now. No way he transfers and sits a year.

Scooter underperforming, imo, was more a product of the offensive system. He would've excelled in a more uptempo offense. In hindsight, I'm surprised he didn't transfer. He didn't see a ton of playing time till his senior year, iirc.

1/18/2017 3:19:22 PM

^Totally agree with that. Scoot could have been an All ACC guy somewhere else, but he was neutered by Herb's Princeton offense. Turned him into strictly a 3 and D guy. I always thought Herb's offense made some players who weren't that good look really good (Etimov, Melvin) and it made some players who were really good look average (Scooter, Bethel, even Bennerman to an extent).

Anyway, Mav is such a weapon against zones when he's hitting shots. His release is so fast that the defense can't react fast enough to stop him. Plus he's also great making the extra pass to get other guys good looks. He's pissed me off a lot in the past, but I really liked everything he did last night.



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1/18/2017 5:17:59 PM

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"Plus he's also great making the extra pass to get other guys good looks. "

He is??

1/18/2017 5:33:36 PM

Scooter and Bennerman could've been a lot different and more prolific in a more uptempo offense. Would have been very interesting to see their athleticism displayed differently.

1/18/2017 6:18:14 PM

^^Yep, did it at least four times last night. Kind of surprised me.

Probably should have said was really good at doing it LAST NIGHT

1/18/2017 7:52:41 PM

Ah. Was gonna say, dude has a well earned rep as a black hole

1/18/2017 8:31:03 PM

re: Beejay and defense:

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"Joe Giglio ?@jwgiglio 9h9 hours ago Counted 21 uncontested shots (out of 54), down from 27 in the GT loss, but that's still a lot Joe Giglio ?@jwgiglio 9h9 hours ago Nine of Pitt's 21 uncontested shots came against State's zone. The big on the weakside would collapse and leave the wing open Joe Giglio ?@jwgiglio 9h9 hours ago BeeJay on Young was responsible for three of the open looks in the first half and Mav lost Cameron Johnson three times in man"

1/18/2017 9:25:09 PM

at least we have someone watching tape, because so far this season it doesn't look like any coaches or staff are

1/18/2017 9:29:14 PM

Scooter didn't play early in his career because of defense. Herb didn't play guys who couldn't contribute on defense. He ended up being a really good player for us his senior year, and his ankle injury late in the season (vs UNC if I'm not mistaken) really hurt our postseason chances that year.

And LOL at Rowan passing. Also, any time Anya was in the game we should have be in a zone because he isn't going to guard a guy shooting threes.

1/18/2017 9:51:51 PM

Yeah Anya was just a bad matchup vs Pitt. Really bad.

1/18/2017 9:59:04 PM

I am impressed that Giglio watched all that tape. Good to see he is doing some research.

1/18/2017 9:59:41 PM

he does that all the time. marked down where Jaylen lined up every single offensive snap this year.

1/18/2017 10:11:37 PM

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"at least we have someone watching tape, because so far this season it doesn't look like any coaches or staff are"

get him synapse

1/18/2017 10:22:16 PM

Giglio is doing a good job, people on twitter attacking him are ridiculous

1/19/2017 6:07:45 AM