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ThePeter
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should've known that lewisje was going to jump all over this injustice to society

3/5/2013 5:37:14 PM

lewisje
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lrn2reed

my first post ITT said that the beratement of "thin privilege" has gone too far

3/5/2013 5:38:31 PM

BridgetSPK
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I don't know about thin privilege, but attractive privilege is a bit of a problem...primarily when the attractive person is stupid, and nobody has made them aware of it.

3/5/2013 5:39:10 PM

Skwinkle
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"“But certainly asking people who can’t fit into one plane seat to pay for two is fair. It’s a matter of real estate, safety, and fuel efficiency, isn’t it?”

No, no, and no. Bad service, archaic standards that were wrong in the first place, the acceptability of fat discrimination, and ableism are the main reasons fat people are required/requested by some airlines to purchase two seats."


I need to stop looking at the FAQ.

3/5/2013 6:55:16 PM

Mr. Joshua
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My god. If it weren't so long and angry I would write it off as bad trolling.

3/5/2013 7:47:06 PM

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i want to know about this thin privilege.

i go to buy pants and can NEVER find a damn pair of 32x34 in pretty much anything. but there are plenty of 48x32 for all those goddamn fatties.

3/5/2013 7:53:10 PM

th3oretecht
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I find 32x34s all the time. I can very rarely find 30x34s though

3/5/2013 7:56:31 PM

justinh524
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i must only shop at the fat people stores

or am i a fatty now???

3/5/2013 8:02:04 PM

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i used to need a 31x31. now i need a 32x31

3/5/2013 9:05:10 PM

Mr. Joshua
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dat 190% baby weight

3/5/2013 11:00:04 PM

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/mother-finds-diet-list-in-her-7-year-old-daughters-bedroom

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"Mother Finds “Diet List” In Her 7-Year-Old Daughter's Bedroom

Australian mother of three Amy Cheney was cleaning her daughter's room when she found this note "innocently sitting on the floor" amidst "Polly Pockets, friendship bracelets and a variety of other crap 7-year-olds love to hoard."



Amy writes that she began to feel "physically ill" as she made sense of the "diyet" list.

Diyet. Jesus.

Where did she learn the word diet? How does she even know what a freaking diet is?

Whose fault is this? Is it mine because I let her play with Barbies? Because sometimes she's allowed to watch Total Drama Action? Is it because when I draw with her I can only draw stick figures?

Seventeen Poosh-ups two times a day.

I felt sick. Physically ill. Like someone had knocked the air from my chest.

I could feel myself getting increasingly anxious the more words I was able to interpret from her seven-year-old spelling.

Three Appals, One Per, Two Keewee Froots.

How did this happen?

"Weight has never been an issue in our home — it is, for the most part, irrelevant," Amy explains. "I am smart about this stuff."

The 30-year-old mother notes that she has a degree in early childhood studies, writing that her family "focuses on and promotes healthy eating and healthy bodies," and adds that she never asks her husband if she "looks fat" in something.
Via: mamamia.com.au
Via: stylemagazine.net.au

"And then I got angry," Amy writes. "Really, really angry."

F*ck you society. F*ck you and your and stupid obsession with women and the way they look.

How dare you sneak into my home with your ridiculous standards and embed them in my little girls head, polluting her innocence with your pathetic ideals.

Jog/run up and down the driv way three times.

Your unrealistic expectations will not win in my house.

I am tired of the beauty and body obsessed arena we live in. I am tired of women being portrayed as objects to be saluted and admired or shunned and shamed depending on whether they measure up to societies idealistic standards. I am tired of the conformist attitudes. And then, because I was so tired (and sad, so sad) that I cried.

When her daughter got home from school, Amy found out that "Miss Seven" learned about "diyets" from a friend (also 7 years old), who was on one herself.

"We chatted about diets and beautiful healthy bodies and the gift that they are," she writes.
"I am not naive. I know this will not be the last time I talk about food and weight and bodies with my daughter. I am just ultra pissed that it had to start when she was seven.""


I understand the outrage but why is it such a bad idea for a kid to know to eat well and exercise? Doesn't seem like such a bad idea. Am I wrong for thinking that?

*all of this is with the idea that the foods she listed aren't the only foods she'll be eating. Just including healthier food options

3/7/2013 1:12:01 PM

lewoods
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I'm tired of everyone saying that dealing with food allergies must not be that bad because it keeps you skinny.

3/7/2013 1:19:38 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^Well, you definitely want to teach kids about food and energy and how it all works but not to obsessively write it all down and create a checklist. And, depending on how far this "diyet" went, the kid could be developing a food obsession that was totally avoidable.

^Get new friends.

3/7/2013 1:24:31 PM

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And it could be harmless seven year old emulation that really has no long term effects on anything.

But yeah, let's get all freaked out about it, that's the best approach.

3/7/2013 1:38:28 PM

BridgetSPK
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Maybe the kid is already crazy about food, and that's why she got pumped about a diet. Another kid might think the whole notion was stupid.

I dunno. Regardless, I'm definitely not freaking out. But I'm also not pretending that all the stupid, neurotic stuff adults do with food is totally harmless to children.

[Edited on March 7, 2013 at 1:48 PM. Reason : Ignoring it and letting it continue to happen is also not the best approach.]

3/7/2013 1:45:23 PM

Krallum
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Kid's already fucked. Who cares

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

3/7/2013 2:05:36 PM

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going to the media was definitely the best approach



I hope they took the kid/family to the doctor and a nutritionist. everyone should

3/7/2013 2:25:50 PM

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"I find 32x34s all the time. I can very rarely find 30x34s though "


This is the problem I have. Check your fat privilege at the door

3/7/2013 2:28:49 PM

GREEN JAY
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Of course terribly thin people are alienated from stores and made to feel sick and inferior too. Maybe people should just go ahead and treat everybody with respect already. Privilege for all!

3/7/2013 2:53:41 PM

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"I understand the outrage but why is it such a bad idea for a kid to know to eat well and exercise? Doesn't seem like such a bad idea. Am I wrong for thinking that?

*all of this is with the idea that the foods she listed aren't the only foods she'll be eating. Just including healthier food options"


I don't understand the outrage. Why does everyone assume that diet = weight loss? I think there's a lot of projection on the part of fatties going on.

3/7/2013 4:57:02 PM

BridgetSPK
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As far as I can tell, nobody is assuming that diet = fat loss.

So if anybody is making assumptions, it's you.


I'm surprised you think it's appropriate for a healthy 7 year-old to be making a checklist of food and exercise they intend to eat and do every day. It's ridiculous.

3/7/2013 5:05:01 PM

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How is it any less appropriate than making a list of the fun shit she's going to do throughout the day?

Starting good habits is best started young. I see no problem with a seven year old girl having the opinion that eating good foods and exercising should be part of her daily routine.

I agree with ^^, everyone is all up in arms because they are assuming this little girl's diet list has something to do with her self image or interest in losing weight and there's no evidence she's doing anything more than being a normal, imaginative kid.

3/7/2013 5:11:35 PM

BridgetSPK
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To be clear...I'm not assuming anything about this particular 7 year-old.

But some of you seem to be dismissing all concerns about children/nutrition/etc...by saying it's possible that this one particular 7 year-old is normal.


I get that people are fat, mindless pigs, and some of you want them to be healthy or whatever. But if that means we think it's cool for children to eat 3 apples and run up and down the driveway, then apparently people are also incredibly cruel (to children) and stupid (because they're promoting the opposite of good health).

3/7/2013 5:28:10 PM

d357r0y3r
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"As far as I can tell, nobody is assuming that diet = fat loss.

So if anybody is making assumptions, it's you."


By people, I mean the blogger and the blog post comments, not necessarily anyone in this thread.

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"I'm surprised you think it's appropriate for a healthy 7 year-old to be making a checklist of food and exercise they intend to eat and do every day. It's ridiculous."


I'm not seeing how it's unhealthy or inappropriate. Can you elaborate?

[Edited on March 7, 2013 at 5:34 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2013 5:32:03 PM

Skwinkle
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If she made that kind of checklist and her mother says she's never used the word diet and "weight has never been an issue" it seems like she might be unhealthy and the kid has tried to figure out how to NOT be like her. I did that as a kid. Not at 7, but not too much later.

If it's the other end of the spectrum and she is healthy and knowledgeable about food and exercise, I don't think she would be surprised that her daughter was showing an interest in those things too.

3/7/2013 5:53:48 PM

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Jesus Christ. Somebody discriminates against an illegal alien, woman, or someone non-white, you people are all over it. But you're all about some fat-people discrimination. Is it b/c fat people did it to themselves? I'm sure that's true for 99.4% of the overweight population. But what about those that really can't help it.

3/7/2013 5:57:52 PM

th3oretecht
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"I'm not seeing how it's unhealthy or inappropriate. Can you elaborate?"

3/7/2013 5:58:03 PM

BridgetSPK
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I'm going to assume you guys don't understand because you're men, and you never would have voluntarily started an aspirational food journal when you were 7, but whatever, since you're all apparently unaware, this type of activity encourages preoccupation/obsession with food, which can lead to an actual weight problem.

And, Skwinkle, the mother made it clear that weight isn't an issue in their home so they don't have to talk about the act of dieting and keep food and exercise journals. They just eat right and exercise normally, which is how we should be with and for our children.

3/7/2013 6:12:48 PM

BJCaudill21
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A lot of fatties don't think their weight is an issue. That's the point of this..

3/7/2013 6:18:30 PM

Skwinkle
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Right. It could be "we are all fat but we don't talk about it and we love you anyway, and so should everyone else"

3/7/2013 6:19:51 PM

th3oretecht
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When I was young, we were taught early on about the food pyramid and how to eat right and exercise. The Terminator was appointed to the president's council on physical fitness and visited my school. A lot of us got excited about being healthy, even if it was just because Arnold was there.

I don't think it was a terrible thing for our future selves.

3/7/2013 6:19:53 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^^,^^Despite a vocal minority on the Internet, most fat people are too ashamed of themselves to have that attitude. Furthermore:

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"The 30-year-old mother notes that she has a degree in early childhood studies, writing that her family "focuses on and promotes healthy eating and healthy bodies," and adds that she never asks her husband if she "looks fat" in something."


^You are not talking about what the rest of us are talking about.

3/7/2013 6:26:47 PM

th3oretecht
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What are you talking about, then?

3/7/2013 6:33:07 PM

BridgetSPK
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LOL I think I've been pretty clear at this point.

And I definitely share no common texts or experiences with you people.

3/7/2013 6:44:38 PM

Kris
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What! How is my favorite TITP post ever not on this?

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"Thin privilege is being able to see people of your own body type in Les Miserables.

Like, really. It’s my favorite musical, but there was not one single even remotely overweight person in the whole movie. "

http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/post/40764405928/thin-privilege-is-being-able-to-see-people-of-your

3/7/2013 6:50:25 PM

theDuke866
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clearly we don't have enough thin privilege in this country, because we are collectively fat as fuck.

3/7/2013 6:52:19 PM

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"LOL I think I've been pretty clear at this point.

And I definitely share no common texts or experiences with you people."


quit bitching, it's never to early to recognize healthy habits. it's not like she wrote out how fat and ugly she thought she was. regardless, the kid probably threw down the list in favor of playing with her other toys within five minutes anyway.

3/7/2013 7:00:49 PM

th3oretecht
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^that's my thought

3/7/2013 7:03:03 PM

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This has to be quite possibly the funniest tumblr I've ever seen!

This one took the cake. Thanks Kris!

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""Thin privilege is being able to see people of your own body type in Les Miserables.

Like, really. It’s my favorite musical, but there was not one single even remotely overweight person in the whole movie. ""
... Because you know, all those starving people before the French revolution were grotesquely obese.

Reading this thread / TITP is like sitting on a dock watching hordes of kindergarteners throw bread at ravenous ducks. Except the children are the internet and the ducks are trolls. Fat trolls.

Woah there, not discriminating, I'm just saying the trolls are really well fed... And don't exercise.

3/7/2013 7:11:48 PM

BridgetSPK
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^^^

3/7/2013 7:42:31 PM

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i'm surprised there are so many people who enjoy this with as many fat apologists as there are on this site. i think some of you just don't know what fat is.

3/7/2013 7:44:35 PM

Kris
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I also like the les miserable post's mod note:

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"Not all people who are starving and/or food-insecure are thin. That’s incredibly ignorant, and a movie romanticization."


Fucking media always showing thin starving people and never focusing on the fat starving people!

3/7/2013 7:50:42 PM

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"I'm going to assume you guys don't understand because you're men, and you never would have voluntarily started an aspirational food journal when you were 7, but whatever, since you're all apparently unaware, this type of activity encourages preoccupation/obsession with food, which can lead to an actual weight problem."


I honestly don't see what sex or gender has to do with it. Age 7 or 8 was when I began to plump up as a kid. I continued to gain weight all the way though college, and eventually I addressed my poor diet, but I had to reverse over a decade of bad habits. I wish that some adult in my life had helped me develop good habits and understand the foundations of nutrition; it would have saved me a lot of grief during middle and high school. Being fat had a significantly negative impact on my self-esteem.

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"And, Skwinkle, the mother made it clear that weight isn't an issue in their home so they don't have to talk about the act of dieting and keep food and exercise journals. They just eat right and exercise normally, which is how we should be with and for our children."


Here's the thing: humans evolved in an environment where energy dense foods like candy were basically non-existent or at least extremely rare. There's a good reason that chocolate tastes better than broccoli. Children (and really, many adults) don't understand that, though. In the modern era, it's more important than ever that kids start learning to control their food consumption.

It doesn't have to be a task. The fact that this girl is actually interested in something so vital to her lifelong health is really encouraging. But, rather than helping the child harness that natural curiosity and use it in a positive way, the mom (who, undoubtedly, is projecting her own insecurities) goes nuts about it.

3/7/2013 8:13:03 PM

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". But if that means we think it's cool for children to eat 3 apples and run up and down the driveway,"


I think it's very cool for children to eat three apples as part of a regular diet and exercise, whether it's running the driveway or playing soccer. Why is it bad to encourage healthy habits?

3/7/2013 8:49:25 PM

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if she ate 3 apples, the only place she's gonna be running is to the toilet

3/7/2013 9:04:24 PM

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http://www.theonion.com/articles/450pound-man-didnt-go-to-doctor-for-a-lecture,31625/

3/12/2013 10:54:07 PM

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I can't stop reading this ridiculous website! It's hilarious how she talks about research studies backing her up... seems like this fattie has never heard of the Food Research and Action Center

http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesity/what-are-the-consequences-of-adult-overweight-and-obesity/

or the National Weight Control Registry

http://www.nwcr.ws/

It's like a bad wreck - I can't look away!!

3/13/2013 5:43:29 AM

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"adoption, birthing/fertility options, custody of their own fucking children, certain life-saving medical procedures"


Ok, let me break this down:

1. Adoption - I do think some agencies are ridiculously strict and refuse adoption to couples where one or both might be overweight even if barely so. I know it's not the norm, but I have seen it happen to my former boss (she went through a different company and they now have a beautiful little boy)

2. Birthing/fertility options - ATTN FAT PPL: you have different "options" because quite frankly, being obese increases your risk of complications as pregnancy increases your blood flow tremendously, thus you're making your heart work even harder. You're also at risk for diabetes, which can cause birth defects alone but the biggest concern is ultimately stillbirth. You also don't have the same fertility options because being obese can really jack up your hormones, so if you lose weight SURPRISE, you might just have better luck getting pregnant. You also don't have the same great options for genetic testing during pregnancy because the bigger you are, the harder it can be to either a) perform a procedure, or b) even get a damn test result because the concentration of whatever we are looking for will be much lower because you're so big. /rant

3. Custody - well, what do you expect to happen if your BMI is 50+? How is that not dangerous?

4. Life-saving procedures - Wait, wait, wait. So this bitch is honestly confused as to why these are not as available? Uh, maybe because it's such a big risk to your life that it doesn't make sense! Why the F would you perform a risky operation on someone when they're already a huge risk because so many things can go wrong due to their body being all out of whack from too much poundage?! Ridiculous.


Finally, as someone who has been battling chubbiness pretty much her entire life, this website pisses me off. I guess I don't understand why someone wouldn't strive to at least be somewhat healthy and attempt to get to a good weight, even if it happens to be a little above your "best" BMI. And I damn sure don't blame someone for all my fucking problems just because they're thin. She needs to own to the fact that she doesn't want to change, but wants all the benefits as if she really is healthy. Bitch please. Admit you like cake and be done with it.

3/13/2013 7:11:04 AM

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"When I was young, we were taught early on about the food pyramid and how to eat right "


I lolled

3/13/2013 2:11:18 PM

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http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/overweight-patients-face-bias

commenter on facebook:

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"Wonder if people stopped to think that this attitude contributes more to the "ailing health of fat people" than the number on the scale ever will. Why regularly go to an office to get berated and treated like your weight causes every problem with your body?"

4/30/2013 3:20:34 PM

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