It was good. he gets a little lost at times because he's got so much to say but overall he was impressive. where are the pics going to be posted i went to his site but didnt see them

3/29/2011 8:38:29 AM

Did his penis taste like you always imagined it would?

3/29/2011 10:39:22 AM

Pics will be up on the YAL or CFL flickr account within a few days.

3/29/2011 10:43:52 AM

Shouldn't you be re-reading the communist manifesto instead of typing on the internet all day?

3/29/2011 10:45:26 AM

^^ cool thanks, was a little drunk from open bar work event right before the speech. My gf had to leave before we got to the front of the line and she normally takes care of memory skills for me. Realized after I left I had no clue where to find the pictures haha

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3/29/2011 10:46:25 AM

The event was a great success, and a lot more fun than I even expected. It's encouraging to see more people getting excited about these ideas.

3/29/2011 12:17:09 PM

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"encouraging to see more people getting excited about these ideas."

What ideas did he speak about, and did he have any call to action to go along with his speech?

3/29/2011 2:38:58 PM

Terrible event.

Since when did libertarians become dirty hippies?
Spent more time badmouthing the war and advocating socialy liberal policies then talking about fiscal conservatism.

Ron Paul will remain a joke candidate until he deals with items that matter...

[Edited on March 29, 2011 at 5:33 PM. Reason : edit]

3/29/2011 5:32:17 PM

maybe you haven't tried his kool aid yet

3/29/2011 6:43:46 PM

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"What ideas did he speak about, and did he have any call to action to go along with his speech?"

He spoke in detail about our unconstitutional involvement with the conflict in Libya. He stated that it's not just illegal, but an all around bad idea, although in line with the foreign policy since WWII.

He talked about how the government asks us to sacrifice during recessions, yet Wall Street (big bank executives and their ilk) get rich off of the whole thing. He, of course, spoke about getting rid of the Fed or at least finding out what they're doing. He spoke about the unlikely coalition that exists between religious fundamentalists and drug traffickers - both are opposed to ending drug prohibition.

As far as a call to action, he mentioned how much the movement has grown just in the past few years, and emphasized the importance of discussing these ideas and bringing more people in. He was extremely reluctant to mention his running for any political office, probably due to the legal and political ramifications of doing so.

There should be a full video up soon. I'll post it when I have time to find a link.

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"Ron Paul will remain a joke candidate until he deals with items that matter..."

Because foreign policy and civil liberties don't matter. Are you listening to yourself? One of his main points, which apparently you missed, is that nearly 100 years ago, "freedom" got split up "economic liberty" and "social liberty." If you're serious about liberty, no separation is necessary.

[Edited on March 30, 2011 at 12:22 PM. Reason : ]

3/30/2011 12:18:19 PM

Buddy, I served two terms as Vice Chair of College Republicans and worked in a variety of political capacities at all levels of government...

I think I know a bit about what conservatism actual entails. Libertarianism is not conservatism.

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3/31/2011 11:57:38 AM

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3/31/2011 12:04:12 PM

http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2011/03/29

3/31/2011 12:19:19 PM

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"I think I know a bit about what conservatism actual entails. Libertarianism is not conservatism."

I’m not convinced that you do know what “actual” conservatism entails. Everyone’s got their own take on it, but the term is about as vague as “liberalism,” which makes it kind of an obsolete word for me.

Here’s what Ronald Reagan said to Reason magazine in 1975:

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"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."

It’s difficult to a maintain a neo-conservative foreign policy without a burdensome central authority. We spend trillions to maintain our military empire. I think the mainstream GOP take on foreign policy is extremely flawed and in no way sustainable. Foreign policy is, of course, connected with domestic economic and monetary policy. We could not afford to keep doing what we’re doing around the world without running permanent deficits. We have to make massive cuts across the board, and Ron Paul said as much.

If you talk about individual freedom, it doesn’t make sense to throw people in jail for using marijuana. Personal responsibility means making your own decisions for yourself (good or bad) and dealing with the consequences, not having a legislature that plays Minority Report and tries to save people from themselves.

3/31/2011 1:21:03 PM

Awwwww shiiitttt. Homeboy broke out a Reagan quote saying the exact opposite of what you did, Moox.

3/31/2011 2:14:15 PM

now that is some funny shit

3/31/2011 2:20:25 PM

We are breaking out quotations now?

“I don't agree with the libertarians. I want my security first. I'll deal with all the details after that.”
-Trent Lott

See? I can do it too! Personally, when I judge the merit of a politician, I place more value in the physical safety of myself, my loved ones, and the continuation of our nation than I do in the legalization of the drug habits of our societal dredges.

Furthermore, if you actually knew a thing or two about being a strict constitutionalist, as you so feign, you would be advocating for the decision on such matters to be in the hands of the states pursuant to the tenth amendment. You have not argued this point. You have argued for social liberalism. You, like Ron Paul, are a joke.

Before I forget, next time you wish to use a Reagan quote I suggest you find one that actually coincides with his presidency (81-89). Arguing that a president whose entire administration was an arms race against the Soviet Union was a staunch isolationist like yourself is an unwinnable fight...

[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 5:26 PM. Reason : ...]

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3/31/2011 5:26:01 PM

Who's Trent Lott?

3/31/2011 5:30:34 PM

Former Senate Majority Leader...

3/31/2011 5:41:54 PM

Which came first: war or freedom?

3/31/2011 5:45:18 PM

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"Which came first: war or freedom?"

More importantly, how can you understand the value of freedom without understanding war?

3/31/2011 5:47:46 PM

I was quoting Ronald Reagan, a President heralded by many conservatives and conservative commentators as one of the greatest of our time. You're quoting Trent Lott, in what amounts to a justification for fascism. Well played, sir.

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"See? I can do it too! Personally, when I judge the merit of a politician, I place more value in the physical safety of myself, my loved ones, and the continuation of our nation than I do in the legalization of the drug habits of our societal dredges. "

Right. I'm sure you believe that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are guaranteeing your safety. Here's your wake up call: our foreign policy is making you less safe and less prosperous. We've fostered a generation of terrorists that resent Western powers by intervening in places literally on the other side of the globe. We've also borrowed untold trillions to do so, and as a result, you and your loved ones will experience a substantial reduction in your standard of living.

As for the drug habits of the "societal dredges," that's awfully judgmental of you. The great thing about taking a principled stand on the issues (as Ron Paul and I have done) is that you don't have to prioritize. You can take a look at any issue and determine where you stand. You don't have to choose between "security" and "freedom." You can have both. You don't want both, though, you want a police state. Like many Republicans, I'm sure you pay lip service to the founders, but in reality, you want to tell everyone in and out of this country how to live their lives. Your ideology is precisely what the founders warned against.

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"Furthermore, if you actually knew a thing or two about being a strict constitutionalist, as you so feign, you would be advocating for the decision on such matters to be in the hands of the states pursuant to the tenth amendment. You have not argued this point. You have argued for social liberalism. You, like Ron Paul, are a joke."

Ask anyone that reads TSB regularly - I do say that states should be the ones to make these laws, if the laws should be made at all. The federal government has no constitutional authority to regulate drugs, yet it does. Ron Paul argues the same thing.

It's really no wonder that college republicans have become irrelevant (and seemingly inactive) with individuals like you at the helm. Your views are logically inconsistent and probably don't appeal to very many young people, though I'm sure you'd be a hit in a room full of bankers, politicians, and derivatives traders intent on leaving our generation with as little as possible. Groups like YAL are the future - fiscally conservative, socially liberal, and non-partisan.

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"More importantly, how can you understand the value of freedom without understanding war?"

Just curious - how do you think wars are paid for? Who pays for them, and how specifically do you imagine that the revenue is collected?

[Edited on March 31, 2011 at 6:14 PM. Reason : ]

3/31/2011 6:04:11 PM

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"Here’s what Ronald Reagan said to Reason magazine in 1975"

Here's what Ronald Reagan said in 1995:
"I was wrong with libertarians, Prime Minister Bush has toilets, win one for the Gipper!"

4/1/2011 1:30:02 AM

"Also, Nancy is still a firecracker in the sack."

4/1/2011 4:39:06 PM

Beddy bye boze time again!

-Ronald Reagan, to Sir Philip Collins, 1986

4/1/2011 5:46:00 PM