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ScHpEnXeL
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have you tried a single blade safety razor? i thought it was you that made a thread about it.. maybe it was someone else.

i had similar problems and they're gone after getting DE razor a few years ago

8/25/2009 1:40:13 PM

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i shave with soap lather. it's fantastic and doesnt clog my razor as much. i prefer the kiss my face olive oil and green tea soap bars you can find at whole foods.

8/25/2009 1:40:57 PM

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i've been meaning to make this switch for a while, but never got around to buying all of the shit.

8/25/2009 1:47:22 PM

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This bears repeating:

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"Since when does 'shaving like a man' entail blowing almost two hundred bucks on toys and lotion and shit?

~"

8/25/2009 1:54:15 PM

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^ yeah, but that's just dumb...my first DE razor (parker 90R) was $20 off ebay (came with 10 blades, too)...walmart sells a shaving kit that has a bowl, a boar-hair brush (not as good as badger, but i can't imagine it makes THAT much difference) and shave soap (i can't remember the brand, but i really like it...it doesn't smell girly and it doesn't dry out my skin at all, which most soaps, including shaving cream/gel, do) for $8

is it the nicest gear? no
is it a helluva lot better than cartridges? yes

that's $28 for 10 weeks of shaving...how much do cartridges cost? and that's just the initial layout...past that, you can get quality blades for $0.10-$0.15/each and you replace them weekly...you're looking at a whopping $36 for a year's worth of shaving that gives you a better, closer shave and for a lot of people, something that's better for your skin (fewer cuts, razor burns, ingrown hairs, and pimples)



[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2009 2:08:53 PM

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I got the same kit from Walscrog. My face feels so much better using the shaving soap versus any of the off-the-shelf creams/foams/gels. They just plain burn.

And shaving wet with HOT water after I get out of the shower makes a lot of difference. But I've got to get rid of the damn Fusion razor. It's stupidly expensive, and I really don't think it gets me as close or as nice as I would like.

I'm still not brave enough to use a cutthroat on myself. Well, brave enough without a doubt. But nicking one's self is just a pain in the ass.

8/25/2009 2:15:37 PM

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^ this is true...i've taken to shaving right after getting out of the shower and that makes a lot of difference

if i'm shaving and not taking a shower, i take a mug, fill it with water, and zap it in the microwave until it's boiling...i wet my face with hot water, dip the brush in the mug, and lather it up with soap...it goes on hot, but it's pleasant...i rinse the razor in water from the tap, but dip it for just a second in the almost-boiling water before actually shaving (more than just a dip and it get hot FAST...brass'll do that)

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2009 2:19:33 PM

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Quote :
"Since when does "shaving like a man" entail blowing almost two hundred bucks on toys and lotion and shit?"


that's humorous

do you shave, Frosh? if so, with what? how often? how often do you change your blade?

assuming market price of 8 Fusion/Schick Quattro Tit blades are around $25, those razors will last about 8 weeks

the 200 blades I bought for 35 bucks will last me between 100 and 200 weeks (that's two to four years)

(8 x 25 = 200 and 25 x $25 is $625)

$625 > $35

With me so far?

The shaving creme I bought will last me about 4 months for about $15. A can of Barbasol is about $2 and will last about 2 months.

12 tubs of the good stuff = $180 for 4 years (let's call it $200)
24 cans of Barbasol = $48 for 4 years (let's call it $50)

$625 + 50 > $35 + 200

With me so far?

Your plastic disposable razor costs $10 and who knows how long it will last. My steel razor costs $50 and will last as long as I take care of it (trying searching Ebay for some vintage safety razors and see how old some of them are)

$675 + 10 > $235 + 50

With me so far?

Anyone who doesn't use an alum block or a styptic pencil is dumb, so let's call that one even.

$685 > $285

Aftershave? Yeah...pretty much same thing as the alum block.

Am I missing anything else?

So your plastic, disposable, non-biodegradable razor will cost you $171.50 a year, where as mine will cost $58.75 a year, and I'll have a much better shave than you will, every time I shave (even if I cut myself at first).

But, hey....my math could be wrong.

8/25/2009 2:48:06 PM

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i knew this thread was getting too educational/information/non-NSFW for chit chat

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 2:53 PM. Reason : aha]

8/25/2009 2:53:33 PM

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Jeepin4x4 had a good idea...so I asked qntmfred and he's the man

this should be an informational thread! btw...can someone pls embed that vid I posted in the first post?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhDjWSJk0cQ

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM. Reason : wrong link]

8/25/2009 2:55:32 PM

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I shave when I feel like it, and I have no idea what it costs.

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 2:57 PM. Reason : For the record, Mach3 and Williams mug soap.]

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 2:57 PM. Reason : And a badger hair brush, I guess.]

8/25/2009 2:56:21 PM

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I use Witch Hazel instead of an alum block. It does essentially the same thing. And if you don't cut yourself you don't need a styptic pencil. But I agree, the saftey razor wet shave is the way to go. I use a Merkur HD and Col Conk. Soap.

8/25/2009 2:57:31 PM

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Quote :
"Anyone who doesn't use an alum block or a styptic pencil is dumb"

any reason in particular, or are they dumb because they don't do what you do?

i don't use any of the three (alum, witch hazel, or a styptic pencil) because i don't need them

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"I shave when I feel like it, and I have no idea what it costs."

so...your point is that you're making assumptions out of ignorance and you expect people to take what you say seriously?

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2009 2:57:48 PM

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Uh, no. I shave when I feel like it, and I have no idea what it costs. The implication is that it must not cost enough for me to pay much attention. I think it's pretty lame to be like SHAVING LIKE A MAN and then list hundreds of dollars of fucking gewgaws and creams and shit.

8/25/2009 3:00:16 PM

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shavingessentials.net is a pretty good site. it's where i get my soap and stuff.

8/25/2009 3:03:55 PM

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"Uh, no. I shave when I feel like it, and I have no idea what it costs. The implication is that it must not cost enough for me to pay much attention."

i guess we'll agree to disagree...i think your choice of ignorance makes you stupid, and you think it makes you cool

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"I think it's pretty lame to be like SHAVING LIKE A MAN and then list hundreds of dollars of fucking gewgaws and creams and shit."

i agree that the "shaving like a man" bit is dumb, but it was a chit chat thread...they aren't USUALLY serious...as for "gewgaws and creams and shit", the things he listed are generally accepted as requirements for DE shaving and they're an investment that lasts a helluva a lot longer than whatever disposable crap you use

even if you're not one of the people that would benefit physically from using DE over disposable/cartridges (some of us do it because it is a LOT more comfortable), you can't possibly argue the fact that it's cheaper in the long run...while i realize you're made of money and keeping track of the money you spend is beneath you, the rest of us use a bit more common sense (not necessarily saying that using a DE razor makes more sense, but that we're at least aware of our finances)

8/25/2009 3:06:17 PM

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You are so fuckin' lame for getting butt-hurt over shaving. You are busting out rolleyes and jargon like "DE" over shaving. Fuckin' shaving, dude. You are writing essays about me pointing out that this is fucking gay like the problem rests with me.

8/25/2009 3:09:12 PM

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dude, calm down...it's okay...take a deep breath

i know you get upset when someone doesn't think you're the greatest thing in the world, but it's OKAY...you'll be fine

you've been happy in your ignorance up to this point, i'm sure you'll be just as content once you slow down and breath deeply...some of us think you're a dumbass, but that's not important right now...this is the internet, your real life WILL go on, i promise

8/25/2009 3:21:17 PM

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it's as if the smog of fagginess has destroyed your self-awareness

8/25/2009 3:22:06 PM

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it's as if the smog of fagginess ignorance has destroyed your self-awareness common sense

fixed it for you...i know you're not thinking straight, as much as you care about my opinion of you and all

8/25/2009 3:23:14 PM

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are you another one of State409c's aliases or

8/25/2009 3:23:45 PM

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no, i'm just someone who thinks you might want to take some time out of your busy schedule contributing mindless drivel, work your way out of your ignorance, and pay attention to the FACTS of the world around you...i realize that it's hard for you, needing to use common sense and all...but i have faith that you might one day achieve intelligence and insight that you struggle so hard with now

8/25/2009 3:27:09 PM

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i seriously can't get past the first five words from you anymore

8/25/2009 3:27:27 PM

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weren't you an english major? you must have struggled pretty hard, eh?

between that and the difficult you that you obviously have with numbers, life must be difficult indeed

you have my sympathy

[Edited on August 25, 2009 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]

8/25/2009 3:28:01 PM

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this is pretty much exactly like flying a kite

8/25/2009 3:29:03 PM

quagmire02
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yes, yes, we've all been there

8/25/2009 3:30:38 PM

FroshKiller
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you're just going to post like every time i post

8/25/2009 3:34:16 PM

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i want your body, and i thought that, if you saw how i can't get enough of your well-constructed witticisms, you might love me the way i love you

8/25/2009 3:36:13 PM

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you are up in arms about my "drivel"

yet you will run this thread right into the ground

8/25/2009 3:37:34 PM

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no, i'm hoping to get to page 3 before i leave work

i have 18 minutes...think we can do it?

8/25/2009 3:42:42 PM

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poast

8/25/2009 3:48:11 PM

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don't try to shave your balls with a straight razor

8/25/2009 3:48:37 PM

quagmire02
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i keep my mach 3 around for shaving down there

8/25/2009 3:52:37 PM

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i just said 'fuck shaving' and let mine grow out.

8/25/2009 6:21:29 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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i use my DE

DOWN THERE

8/25/2009 6:39:11 PM

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^ BALLSY.

8/25/2009 6:50:56 PM

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"^Girls definitely like the rugged look if you can pull it off (that is...if your beard comes in full and equally distributed about your face)."


goddamn, I've got a spotty beard. the only part that comes through no problems is the goatee.

I like MWF as well.

8/25/2009 7:35:57 PM

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I PLUCK ALL MY FACIAL HAIR OUT WITH A FUCKING SET OF TWEEZERS



THAT'S HOW A FUCKING MAN SHAVES

8/25/2009 8:02:05 PM

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screw any razor, disposable or not. i use one of these

8/25/2009 8:24:32 PM

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"assuming market price of 8 Fusion/Schick Quattro Tit blades are around $25, those razors will last about 8 weeks"


through the use of a usual sunday coupon, 8 cartridges should cost no more than $4, which throws off your calculations significantly

if you want to say you enjoy doing it your way, that's fine, but let's not pretend that it's any more economical or manly to do it a different way

fwiw, i eat cereal like a man. that is, out of a pointy german WWI helmet with a mother of pearl spoon. i stick it to the kaiser while eating cinnamon toast crunch.

8/25/2009 8:37:35 PM

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i just use a mach 3, works well enough, cheap enough (i don't have to use it every day (yay lab environments)) and fast enough (one $30 pack of cartridges typically lasts me a year or so, i have almost never had issues with razor burn or ingrowns or cutting myself)

i'd rather not and currently do not have the time and initial cash outlay to invest into something like shaving.

so ultimately there is a possibility of a minuscule amount of less money spent in the very long term (safety razor over semi-disposable) with no perceivable direct benefit for me or my face other than i'd be "shaving like a man" if i used a safety razor or a straight blade.

to assume, as the very thread title does, that somehow to not use a straight or safety razor implies that you are 'not' "shaving like a man" is, to be blunt, ignorant, short sided, and stupidly condescending.

but hey, have fun with your hobby.

8/25/2009 10:40:47 PM

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I wonder how many hurt feelings would have been saved if the thread would have been titled "Shaving like your grandfather"

oh well, what's done is done...hurt feelings are part of life...I'm sticking with what I say

I'm glad everyone feels adequate with how they shave

I'm still excited about getting my gear

quagmire02, I heard some really good things about those blades, and I saw the deal on ebay for them, so I picked them up...I hope they work for me!

I was looking at B&B last night and I may join up

do you have one of those brush and blade holders?

8/26/2009 1:36:24 AM

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yeah, best of luck with the blades...i wouldn't have thought that something like the blade would matter overmuch (i mean, they sell a one-size-fits-all mach3 blade, right?), but some work really well for people and some don't...best you can do is try out a couple of different brands and pick the one that works best for your face

i don't have a brush and blade holder myself...i picked up a stainless steel 4-brush holder for my electric toothbrush...since it's just mine and my girlfriend's in the holder, i just put the razor in the one farthest from the toothbrushes (it's not like they drip on it or anything)...and because of the way my sink is designed, the brush sits at an angle over the basin (so the bristles aren't just sitting on the counter or sink itself)

it's a cheap setup, but it works

i'll probably ask for a holder and a badger brush (maybe some old bond street, too) for my bday or christmas

8/26/2009 7:52:57 AM

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You guys should just ignore the trolls and moronic statements?.

Quote :
"through the use of a usual sunday coupon, 8 cartridges should cost no more than $4, which throws off your calculations significantly

if you want to say you enjoy doing it your way, that's fine, but let's not pretend that it's any more economical or manly to do it a different way

fwiw, i eat cereal like a man. that is, out of a pointy german WWI helmet with a mother of pearl spoon. i stick it to the kaiser while eating cinnamon toast crunch."


I'm curious what kind of coupon reduces the price of blades from $25 to $4. Please point me in the direction of that super dooper coupon.

and LOL at eating cereal like a man

[Edited on August 26, 2009 at 8:37 AM. Reason : d]

8/26/2009 8:36:42 AM

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^ i, too, would like to know what magical coupon this is...scan to a recent, valid, name-brand coupon or i call bs

8/26/2009 9:25:15 AM

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i can't scan the coupon because i used it i don't remember when it was in the paper, but i know it expired 7/31.

it was maybe 2 months ago, there was a $4 off fusion blades coupon in the paper, which i combined with some sale that was going on at target. i do the same with schick quattro blades. i don't spend a lot of time hunting for deals, if i happen to have a coupon i glance at the display in the store and do the math. usually it doesn't come out that cheap, but if it's a good deal i get however many make sense. it happens often enough that i only have to buy blades 2-3 times a year.

you could probably get them for even cheaper if you or your lady is one of those maniacal couponing stackers. i think there is a thread in cc or the lounge about it.

[Edited on August 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM. Reason : -]

8/26/2009 9:51:00 AM

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you have NEVER gotten 8 catridges of mach3/fusion/quattro for $4, i promise you

i'm calling you out right now as a cocksucking liar, because that's complete and utter horseshit

8/26/2009 9:53:12 AM

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While I haven't gotten them for $4, with coupons and sales and online purchases I have gotten them (8) for <$10 on occasion and I've never spent more than ~$15 for 8. The Schick Quattro 8-pack is like $18 at Walgreen's not even on sale. That plus the quattro's almost always last me 2 weeks easy, usually 3 weeks (3 mornings a week of shaving), as opposed to the 1 week per blade that kdawg(c) used in his assumption. So a pack of 8 blades lasts me 5-6 months and I just glance for deals/coupons and wait until I see them at a bargain since I'm never in a hurry to restock (I have about 20 blades at home right now because I bought 2 sets of 8 last month for $11 each so I won't be needing any for awhile ). Also if you use the math and look at 200 weeks/ 3 weeks per blade, thats 8 packs of blades of 4 years at $15. Thats $120, significantly less than the $625 figure used.

Not that it matters, since it doesn't bother me much how other people shave, just adding my voice.


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8/26/2009 10:39:58 AM

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^ i agree, the $625 figure is a bit high...also, i realize that some people have to shave more or less often (for me, it wasn't that i had to shave so much, but they'd dull quickly and leave me with burn and bumps, so i had to replace them every other week at the latest)

8/26/2009 10:41:39 AM

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oh yea I can see both sides. I've just used Mach III (for awhile) or more recently the Quattro for awhile now and found no reason to switch. But I have friends who do it your way too.

[Edited on August 26, 2009 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ]

8/26/2009 10:44:19 AM

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