hyundai sonata.

100,000 mile/10 year warranty

[Edited on July 6, 2009 at 10:48 PM. Reason : 2]

7/6/2009 10:47:58 PM

we were looking at that too. i forgot to put it on the list.

7/6/2009 10:51:07 PM

nicklepickle has one as a rental right now, it rides smooth has XM, and decent room. im not big on the interior but its a decent car for the money

7/6/2009 11:01:22 PM

we'll drive it and maybe the genesis

7/6/2009 11:09:15 PM

I'll second that subaru legacy idea

7/6/2009 11:24:46 PM

added to the list i reckon

7/7/2009 8:33:36 AM

after some research, here's her list of cars to test drive

Acura TL, RL, TSX
Honda Accord
Toyota Camry
Lexus _insert entry level sedan here_
Infinity G35
BMW 3 series
Subaru Legacy

7/7/2009 3:04:28 PM

late model 4 cylinder honda accord auto.

7/7/2009 3:22:20 PM

any particular reason for picking the 4 over 6?

7/7/2009 3:28:45 PM

Quote :

" thanks, i hadn't even thought of volvo. i checked them out and they look nice and are within budget. not sure about a 5 cylinder. any opinions on it? i'll make her look at the volvos and reconsider lexus."

Curious as to why the Volvo didn't make the list--I don't really like the S40 (too small, interior doesnt feel premium) but the S60 is a really nice car. A friend was considering them last year and I test-drove a couple--responsive, reasonably sharp handling, nice ride. I think they are attractive on the outside and the interior is just outstanding--nice materials, well finished, and very comfortable. If you can find one with the sports package, not only do you get bigger tires/wheels and some suspension tweaks, but you also get some of the most comfortable front seats I've ever sat in. Really nice cars IMO.

7/8/2009 12:03:18 AM

just didn't look as good as the others on the list to us

this is what's left. we're gonna do a lot of test driving saturday.

Acura TL, TSX
Honda Accord
Toyota Camry
Lexus _insert entry level sedan here_
BMW 3 series
Subaru Legacy

7/9/2009 7:13:31 PM

how much driving are you gonna be doing a month?

7/9/2009 8:11:45 PM

just curious, why did the G35 get cut?

7/9/2009 9:09:11 PM

^^about 1200 to 1300 miles a month

7/9/2009 9:58:17 PM

7/9/2009 10:32:51 PM

hey dee how much country roads and how much around town?

reason I ask is if you do a lot of highway did you think of the hybrid, and did you think of the tax break that comes with it.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 12:09 AM. Reason : just curious]

7/10/2009 12:08:46 AM

of my daily 46 mile commute (round trip), 12 miles are on country back roads going 60 mph, 28 miles are on the interstate going ~78 mph, and the remaining 6 are city driving going 35-45 mph.

During the weekend, I either drive from Goldsboro to Raleigh via Hwy 70 and I40, roughly 65 miles each way or run around town here in Goldsboro.


The hybrid hasn't come up in any of our talks, but I can't give you a definite reason why. I, myself, know nothing about the tax break.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 12:26 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 12:27 AM. Reason : . i so can't add shit in my head]

7/10/2009 12:25:50 AM

yea i think its like $3k when you buy new. of couse you only get it once though

7/10/2009 12:29:48 AM

we aren't looking to buy new. and the only hybrid that looks presentable to me is the camry and those would be out of my price range.

thanks for your thoughts though, I appreciate them. :-)

7/10/2009 12:31:39 AM

i heard the early 90's sentra lasts FOREVER

7/10/2009 12:46:08 AM

Before the flame war, I just added in the new car Tax credit as an option. I did read the title

sentra isnt mid sized

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 12:47 AM. Reason : lol]

7/10/2009 12:46:42 AM

no flame war necessary, i like being knowledgeable and knowing all the options, regardless if it's related to new or used car purchases.

^^thanks dnl, but no thanks. I already feel like I'm driving a matchbox sometimes.

7/10/2009 12:58:40 AM

G35 gas mileage isn't much better than the mustang gt she's driving now

7/10/2009 12:58:49 AM

ut oh. not a GT. you got a keeper Brah

wait i didnt see anything on the fuzion in here


[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 1:01 AM. Reason : lol]

7/10/2009 1:00:15 AM

not crazy about the fusion's looks and not crazy about having another ford

although, i love my GT, she gets me where i need to go without any problems *knocks on wood and sends good car karma to the stang* but it's time to grow up and advance to the finer things in life, especially those with more room and comfort and higher gas mileage



[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 1:06 AM. Reason : .]

7/10/2009 1:05:03 AM

what year was/is it

7/10/2009 1:14:56 AM

it's a 98

7/10/2009 1:16:26 AM

that mustang is uncomfortable as fuck to me and the flowmaster 50s make so much cabin noise i get a headache if i ride in it for more than 15 minutes

but it's reliable, mostly because it's been maintained immaculately

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 1:19 AM. Reason : lkjfdsa;]

7/10/2009 1:18:52 AM

Quote :

"G35 gas mileage isn't much better than the mustang gt she's driving now"

in that case, the numbers for any other similarly engined car (lexus, bmw, acura, etc) won't be much different.

7/10/2009 6:44:01 AM

i believe the G35 had the worst gas mileage of any car on the list

7/10/2009 7:34:25 AM

I get an average of 22 mpg with my G35 coupe. I do mostly city driving and I drive like a douchebag.
I just went from a 98 Sentra to a G35 so you can't blame for driving aggressively for the time being.

Also, G35s require premium. It's a little expensive at the pump but worth every penny of it. I like having a luxury car with the power of a sports car for <$20k.

7/10/2009 10:49:50 AM

she doesn't really need "sports car power"

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 10:53 AM. Reason : hell, nobody needs it]

7/10/2009 10:52:46 AM

What about a TSX? I know you mentioned TL... The TSX averages ~30mpg... 204hp from the 4 cyl is peppy enough and the TSX is still a nice car imo.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 11:00 AM. Reason : .]

7/10/2009 10:59:43 AM

the TSX is on the list and actually at the top. we haven't driven one yet, but everything i look at keeps making me return to it.

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 11:04 AM. Reason : i didn't realize that 4 cyl had 204. is that on the 06/07/08 models too?]

7/10/2009 11:03:57 AM

First generation (2004-2008) have the 2.4L I-4 with 2004 i-Vtec engine. So yes.

I'd go for a 2006 or newer . I know 2006 TSX's a can be had with ~30k miles for ~$18k.

Good luck

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 11:15 AM. Reason : .]

7/10/2009 11:10:48 AM

Quote :

"any particular reason for picking the 4 over 6?"

new 4 cyl accords have plenty of low end torque. probably the same as old V6s. not to mention, better on gas, cheaper on repairs, easier to work on and cheaper to insure.

TSX is great, reliable car but is VERY EXPENSIVE. if comfort and reliability is what you want, just pick a regular honda. somebody correct me, but doesn't TSX use premium gas?

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason : f]

7/10/2009 11:23:40 AM

Quote :

"I know 2006 TSX's a can be had with ~30k miles for ~$18k. "

exactly what we're looking at

[Edited on July 10, 2009 at 11:31 AM. Reason : ^we're planning on driving the v6 and 4 cyl accords. thanks for the help.]

7/10/2009 11:30:27 AM

A lot of TSX's have upwards of 50k to 60k miles for $17k. But with a little patients and searching, you can find some like this one:

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ctd/1257728520.html

7/10/2009 11:35:32 AM

Quote :

"But with a little patients"

The doc can't handle little patients son?

PATIENCE SON.

7/10/2009 1:22:29 PM

TSX = slow

7/10/2009 1:23:38 PM

^

Quote :

"Safety and comfort are the most important aspects."

The fact that it's not the fastest thing they can buy for the money doesn't matter. That isn't really what they're basing this decision on son....

7/10/2009 1:29:09 PM

if i wanted something fast, would i really be in the market for a mid-size sedan?

7/10/2009 1:32:28 PM

EX35

7/10/2009 2:50:38 PM

Quote :

"The doc can't handle little patients son? PATIENCE SON."

Damnit, I do that ALL the time >_<

7/10/2009 3:12:27 PM

Quote :

"if i wanted something fast, would i really be in the market for a mid-size sedan"

you very well could be

C63 AMG
E90 M3
E90 335i
RS4

...out of the price range however...

7/10/2009 7:19:48 PM

guess i should've said "would i really be in the market for $20k mid-size sedan"

7/10/2009 7:23:40 PM

nichole just got a 2010 mazda 3 i touring. walked off the lot for just over 17k with all the fees and shit. its a nice car. its got 8 miles on it

7/11/2009 7:39:15 PM

we drove a handful of cars today and the Acura TL wins

the TSX wasn't bad and i especially like the fact that it has a timing chain instead of a belt, but the seats were just uncomfortable to me. they were too narrow (for my fat ass) and the things on the back of the seat that kinda wrap around your sides were sticking into me. the TL fit like a glove and drives great. it has a small backseat, but that's not a big deal to us at all.

after all the hype i've read on the accord, i was severely let down. the interior didn't appeal to me (i think i was spoiled b/c we drove the acuras first), the little button thing on the shifter sucks (nitpicky, i know), and it had more cabin noise than anything else we drove.

so now we're looking for an '05 and up TL w/o navigation (we like the dash w/o navigation better and would rather just buy one of the little mobile gps things anyway). white is her first choice in color.

we really appreciate the help and opinions.

7/11/2009 8:06:13 PM

Honda/Acura may cost a little more to get into, but they'll hold their value pretty damned well, too


and I know you said she was gonna hold it for 10 yrs also, but a lot can happen in 10 yrs...



[Edited on July 11, 2009 at 9:05 PM. Reason : saer]

7/11/2009 9:02:16 PM

set Deemarie up

7/11/2009 9:57:09 PM