For the first time in history, a Palin has pulled out early.HAY-OOOOOOOO
7/4/2009 12:07:22 PM
nutsmackr:
7/4/2009 12:37:37 PM
whoever this schmidt guy is in the cbs article a few posts back...he sounds like a smart fellow
7/4/2009 1:43:07 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/07/04/sarah-palin-outsmarts-left/
7/4/2009 1:47:56 PM
i recommend she follows that guy's advice. run a campaign against mercury poison bulbs
7/4/2009 1:51:40 PM
Agreed. It could be as successful as that campaign against fluoride in drinking water.
7/4/2009 2:25:06 PM
Palin needs a speech writer.....
7/4/2009 2:47:53 PM
7/4/2009 4:03:17 PM
possible embezzlement scandal? it is think progress, but i'm curious to see how it plays out.http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/03/palin-hockey-arena-scandal/
7/4/2009 4:31:09 PM
Bitch is crazy.Anybody hailing this as the move of some misunderstood genius is totally delusional. McCain "suspended" his campaign in the middle of a national crisis and rightly faced a never-ending hailstorm of derision. Palin is quitting her job as a sitting governor for no apparent good reason -- what reaction does she deserve?As to protecting her family -- she chose to put herself in the national political spotlight, and to seek national responsibility. She contradicted herself on the degree to which her family was taken into consideration when making that pivotal decision. But the decision was hers. As the commander in chief of the U.S. military, would she believe it's OK to quit for the sake of her family while brave men and women are dying on the front lines, thereby destroying their own families?Partisan hacks like Glenn Reynolds, who claims to be libertarian while supporting this marauding nut case, say she's been the subject of an unusual amount of abuse from the national press and the liberal media. So what? As far as I'm aware, she wanted to put herself in the position to become chief executive of this nation, a job that puts you in the line of fire of would-be assassins, into the middle of war zones, and negotiating with despots and mullahs. Now she's said to everybody that she can't handle the job of governing a state with a tiny population, for a few more months.Cry me a fucking river. I hope she's gone for good.
7/4/2009 6:19:57 PM
i think dems would have to be delusional to think shes done with elected office. but i'm with ^ in that i wish she was gone for good. i think she does this country more harm than good.
7/4/2009 6:23:25 PM
^^^ Yeah that's the most likely explanation I've seen so far.
7/4/2009 7:54:33 PM
doesn't surprise me at all that palin is the type of politician that would abuse her powers. She always seemed to be an egomaniacal asshole.
7/4/2009 9:39:22 PM
She actually wanted more time to work on her own line of moose chili and burger
7/4/2009 11:25:01 PM
^some of us dont subscribe to "drive by media weekly"
7/4/2009 11:36:13 PM
Maureen Dowd crushed her in the NYT this morning.
7/5/2009 10:50:26 AM
hahaha that foxnews article had me rolling
7/5/2009 11:08:50 AM
Fox News has done a good job recently of hiding when an article is an editorial and when it's an actual article.
7/5/2009 11:16:18 AM
^^Someone sensible ought to seriously oppose the CFL mandate. I don't think it should be her, but someone ought to.[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason : foo]
7/5/2009 11:20:01 AM
The mercury in CFL's is a somewhat overstated, but real, concern. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.aspThat site has a good summary of the realities about them. The question about whether the reduction in emissions and ground level ozone would potentially outweigh mercury exposure concerns is still an open one.Of course, the question would be rendered moot if LED light bulbs were more affordable.
7/5/2009 11:42:58 AM
hey hey hey, this thread is for palin's epic fail. the merits of opposing mercury poison bulbs can go in its own thread
7/5/2009 11:52:18 AM
Most people have fluorescent bulbs in their house already, that contain mercury.
7/5/2009 11:53:54 AM
^^^^What you've posted is entirely in line with everything I've read about CFLs previously, and it's still entirely nuts, and ought to give everybody second thoughts about using them. Seriously, read what the EPA says: you have to clear everybody out of the room, ventilate it, and shut off your central air BEFORE cleaning it. You can't use a vacuum.Dude, this is a fucking LIGHT BULB. You shouldn't have to clear out a goddamned room if one breaks to avoid mercury poisoning. And keep in mind, most of the analysis about the "real" impacts of the CFL's mercury involve the "average" case scenario where a single bulb breaks.But moving on from that -- look, this is ridiculous. If somebody wants to hazard mercury poisoning or what have you from a CFL, that's fine by me. But it should be a matter of choice.What Congress has done is the household equivalent of phasing out all cars on the market and requiring that everybody drive a Prius. They "sell" it to the consumer with egregious statements like "well, it'll save you energy! It'll cost less!"Hey, guess what? Some of us, we really don't freaking care about how much our light bulbs cost us in terms of energy. Some of us, we make enough money that if we spend an extra couple of bucks for that glorious incandescent glow, we can pay it. Some of us, we grew up in a free country where we have the choice between an SUV and a Prius, and we buy depending on our tastes and budget. Some of us, we don't need a nanny government limiting our choices and telling us how to save energy whether we want to or not.This is egregious; even if the CFLs were powered by magical Jesus Juice it'd be bad government policy to strip the market of any options for consumers. Capitalism works by giving people choices and letting prices control how those choices are made. This is pretty basic stuff. And if the logic here is "saving the planet" -- which is what the arguments for it boil down to -- please, do tell me, where is the line in regulating household consumption from the Congress down? I don't see it. You can justify anything in the name of saving the planet.[Edited on July 5, 2009 at 11:55 AM. Reason : foo]
7/5/2009 11:55:13 AM
^ the issue of choice, and the issue of mercury are completely separate issues.It's ridiculous to be afraid of the mercury in a CFL, especially since you have to break it to be concerned. I've never in my life broken a bulb, and if I did, i'd imagine the shards of glass would be of a bigger concern than the tiny amount of mercury. Not to mention CFL generally have thicker glass walls than regular incancesdents.
7/5/2009 12:12:43 PM
wow didnt mean to start this shit storm... i was just mentioning it because it was a random ass tangent at the end of a dumbass paragraph.
7/5/2009 12:24:56 PM
The problem isn't personal exposure to a single broken bulb (or even multiple bulbs over a lifetime).The problem is the accumulation of mercury in land fills.
7/5/2009 1:14:51 PM
from digghttp://wonkette.com/409650/insane-sarah-palin-late-at-night-on-july-4-threatens-to-sue-entire-internet-via-twitter
7/5/2009 1:17:08 PM
oh shit, there are some gems there
7/5/2009 1:47:32 PM
7/5/2009 2:06:40 PM
except for the fact that she can't think on her feet.
7/5/2009 2:15:22 PM
CFLs are a non-issue. The phase out date is well beyond when the manufacturers said they were going to stop making them anyway.
7/5/2009 2:16:16 PM
7/5/2009 2:44:07 PM
7/5/2009 3:05:00 PM
isn't tungsten (in incandescent lights) dangerous too? i'm finding mixed things on google now but i swear i remember reading an article at some point talking about the dangers of tungsten in ammunition.
7/5/2009 3:41:02 PM
he did a cost benifit analysis and made a decisionseriously...her prize is the presidencyin 2012the end of the world
7/5/2009 4:09:08 PM
i just listened to a Fresh Air podcast from July 1 (Wednesday) titled "Assessing The State Of The (Republican) Nation". They, of course, talked about Palin for a minute, and I thought it was funny that Terri Gross said this: "I really kinda' half-thought after the election that she would kind-of officially enter the land of celebrity and give up politics, and either do a television show, or just some kind of more celebrity-oriented thing. But.... she's staying in politics."maybe she was right after all, just 2 days early in her assessment.
7/5/2009 4:49:05 PM
another huffington post article from digg:The Real Story Behind Palin's BombshellGeoffrey Dunnhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/the-real-story-behind-pal_b_225636.html
7/5/2009 5:15:30 PM
The real story is that Palin knew people were going to talk about her like we're doing, and that we're now going to be following her next moves very closely, with the media hanging off every word, to see what's up. It's almost brilliant...And we're far enough away from 2012 that if she wanted to make a move then, people would have already forgotten how weird this is. And if the republican part is in the same level of disarray then, as they are now, then they would be desperate enough to nominate her as their candidate. And just like how Schwarznegger won California, people might "flock" to the celebrity Palin; or perhaps people will vote for her as a joke, and she'll end up getting elected like that dork guy at the high school prom that becomes the prom king.
7/5/2009 5:20:30 PM
7/5/2009 5:31:29 PM
^ you overestimate the memory span of the American public.No one remembered Bush smearing McCain for having an illegitimate black baby, did they? Or the swift-boating of Kerry orchestrated by the Bush admin? He got elected anyway. No one is really talking about Obama's association with that shady real estate guy (i can't even remember his name now...). If palin is doing well even 6 months from now, trying to bring this back up will ring very hollow.I think Palin's achille's heel though is that she really doesn't know what she's talking about. She can put on a good show, and is otherwise a great attention whore, but when it comes to actually saying something meaningful and serious that people like Gingrich or Kristol can get behind, she is never successful. She'd make a great sidekick to Rush Limbaugh though.
7/5/2009 5:35:28 PM
7/5/2009 5:47:17 PM
yeah thats whats annoying...its like no matter what she does ppl still support her etc
7/5/2009 6:01:49 PM
7/5/2009 6:21:39 PM
i just got around to reading todd purdum's Vanity Fair piece. it's pretty amazing, really. this woman is astoundingly irrational. Never knew about this little gem:
7/5/2009 7:43:27 PM
7/6/2009 12:55:50 AM
I'm really afraid.This incompetent nutjob has a real chance of being president in 2012.We're the country that has already elected an incompetent failure FOR TWO FUCKING TERMS....AND IN 2012 of all years...this is not cool, please someone make it stop
7/6/2009 10:24:52 AM
I don't know what you're afraid of. Barry's doing a hecukuva job.
7/6/2009 11:48:30 AM
I was out in the country for the 4th and I lol'd when I heard this happening. The response from the country folk: "I'd still vote for her over Obama".
7/6/2009 11:59:32 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/06/sarah.palin.fbi/index.htmlwell looks like those people waiting for some shit to hit the fan will have to wait a little longer.
7/6/2009 1:12:50 PM