I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bullshit. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free.

12/26/2008 10:59:43 AM

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"lolz, people arguing about which stock ~200 hp car is faster do you people make bets at the special olympics too?"

That was kind of my point... bragging about an underachieving sports sedan beating an underachieving roadster.

I tried to point out that ~200hp from either of those cars is unimpressive, that these days you can get as much from a Japanese econobox at a much better hp/weight ratio.

Maybe it's my fault that I didn't state my point explicitly, because somewhere in there the dude got the impression that I'm all about ricers.

Quote :

"I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bullshit. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free."

Are you quoting a deleted scene from Joe Dirt?

[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .]

12/26/2008 11:23:40 AM

I had a S4 once. Worst mistake Ive ever made.

12/26/2008 11:28:46 AM

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"whered you get your 2.0T"

Leith Audi in Raleigh. They had 2 S4 there and one RS4 when i got my car.
Go to leithaudi.com they actually have a 2006 S4 with 41000 miles in stock right now.


^^ I never intended this thread to be a brag about your 200hp. I was just trying to tell a story about what happened on the road.

[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM. Reason : l]

12/26/2008 11:56:56 AM

just got a z4, i'd be very surprised if you got any kind of lead if the guy had a 3.0si in sport driving mode. the thing will FLY (and eats gas like a mofo). after test driving a few, anything less than the 3.0si is a waste imo.

12/26/2008 12:51:08 PM

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"I never intended this thread to be a brag about your 200hp."

I don't have 200hp.

12/26/2008 12:58:41 PM

I think Audi somewhat tarnished their heritage with the S-line. When BMW came out with the M-tec program it was not highly pushed, and really just added some appearance to already well performing cars(540i). However from everything I have seen many S-line owners seem to think they have something far far ahead of a normal A car.

12/26/2008 1:23:54 PM

^^^ haha, i wouldn't say that it will "fly". it's a reasonably quick sports car--basically what it should've been all along.

Also, I doubt that "sport mode" feature makes any difference at WOT acceleration. If it does, it would be minimal...a tenth of a second in the quarter or something, probably.

[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM. Reason : and you can always get a lead if the other guy fucks away the launch.]

[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM. Reason : asdfadsf]

[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ^ what's M-Tec? Is that what it's called when they put "M" wheels on a 330i, for example?]

12/26/2008 1:27:16 PM

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"When you have 70hp like me, everything is a race. I'm the only one who knows though "

Ahahah, glad I'm not the only one who feels this way

(Well, 106hp '97 Civic LX, but that's at the crank and it's 11 years old, so it probably is around 70 at the wheels now hah)

12/26/2008 2:16:14 PM

12/26/2008 2:43:19 PM

^^^yes, for example some e36 328's came with M body parts...540i came with steering wheel and door sills, sometimes referred to as "M sport"

12/26/2008 3:06:42 PM

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"udi somewhat tarnished their heritage with the S-line. When BMW came out with the M-tec program it was not highly pushed, and really just added some appearance to already well performing cars(540i). However from everything I have seen many S-line"

I didn't get it by the way to be an S4 wannabe.

The reason i got it was it was one of two certified A4's in my price range that was a 6-speed. Was a color i liked, leather seats, and a sun roof which i considered a must. the special trim, sports suspension, bigger wheels, and whatever else makes it an s-line were just added bonuses.

12/26/2008 3:36:26 PM

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"I didn't get it by the way to be an S4 wannabe."

I didn't say you were, I simply said many S-line owners that I have met are. I'm obviously a huge Audi fan, but lets not brag about a 7.2second 0-60 car.

12/26/2008 4:59:46 PM

what kills the 0-60 on that car is the ratio of 2nd is too high. If I did not have to shift to 3rd to hit 60 w/o going into redline i bet it'd shave a good half second off.

12/26/2008 5:20:33 PM

Well that and the weight....you should look into a reflash.

12/26/2008 5:25:31 PM

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"lolz, people arguing about which stock ~200 hp car is faster do you people make bets at the special olympics too?"

lol. I was just kiddin' around...

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"07 A4 2.0T S-line Quattro 6-speed "

Neil Street, I was talking to the OP. I don't know where you got S4 from when I mentioned

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"I'd like to see how it would hold up to this "s-line" of yours"

Just clarifying... I honestly don't care to put up the IS250 against his AWD Sports Sedan. I just thought it ironic I have a Jap car that's in the same category as his (very similar in every aspect except I'm RWD and he's AWD).

this thread is something else... I can't believe how many threads have derailed in the garage lately

[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 5:48 PM. Reason : .]

12/26/2008 5:45:34 PM

Train Crash BOOM!

12/26/2008 7:21:58 PM

heh...i remember when I had 200HP...lol

12/26/2008 7:29:44 PM

im tell you folks right now.

ill run anyone here with a freakin scooter.

damn you guys argue like some school girls.

YOU'RE ARGUEING ABOUT STREET RACING. FUCK!

12/26/2008 7:33:31 PM

2006 Audi A3 2.0T 6speed auto-clutch manual: 15.0@93mph (3350 lbs)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0709_2006_audi_a3/specs.html

2006 Civic Si 6speed : 14.9@95mph (2871 lbs)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0606_midsize_coupe_comparision/specs_pricing.html
that's in Integra type RR territory

I guess that torque got you nowhere there. also, I would bet on a civic si outhandling an A4

12/26/2008 7:35:42 PM

did u really bring up the specs for an A3 n00b

12/26/2008 7:42:30 PM

same stuff, even lighter weight, still slower

12/26/2008 7:44:22 PM

My 3.0 Vulcan would take all of you fools.

12/26/2008 7:46:43 PM

^ I'd hope so

^^ to bad the drive quality doesn't compare; and my money is still on the A4 (at least the quattro) for handling over the FWD SI





[Edited on December 26, 2008 at 7:52 PM. Reason : l]

12/26/2008 7:51:01 PM

heavy heavy pig

12/26/2008 8:31:23 PM

^^drive quality is purely a matter of opinion. performance, however, isn't. all things being equal, even an a4 quattro would get its feelings hurt by the civic in pretty much any handling/acceleration contest. i'm sure the a4 would probably do better in the snow or something. maybe.

12/26/2008 8:42:27 PM

are we still even trying to compare a civic to an audi?

12/26/2008 9:26:34 PM

Quote :

"what kills the 0-60 on that car is the ratio of 2nd is too high. If I did not have to shift to 3rd to hit 60 w/o going into redline i bet it'd shave a good half second off. "

Who gives a shit about 0-60, anyway?

12/27/2008 5:07:31 AM

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"Who gives a shit about 0-60, anyway?"

high school kids driving stock econobox's trying to figure out which is fastest and since the 1/4 times are too depressing they look at 0-60 instead

12/27/2008 10:28:19 AM

Generally I look at 0-60, 60-100, 1/4 mile and lap times....

12/27/2008 10:59:02 AM

comparing apples to apples though it would only make sense to compare the civic (sports tuned) SI to the Audi S4.

At this point the argument is pretty much a joke.

12/27/2008 11:43:39 AM

Are you planning on looking into a reflash?

12/27/2008 1:04:48 PM

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"Generally I look at 0-60, 60-100, 1/4 mile and lap times...."

1/4 mile trap speed is all that matters!

Not even a high school idiot is going to clutch drop his 4 bang blender at 6,000rpm.

12/27/2008 4:16:25 PM

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"Not even a high school idiot is going to clutch drop his 4 bang blender at 6,000rpm."

Have you seen the video of the guys racing in the triangle town center parking lot. I don't put much past them these days.

12/27/2008 4:21:16 PM

i look at weight first.

12/27/2008 7:15:20 PM

^^&^^^ I've dropped the clutch in the 'Teg from 6000-7000 many, many times. Just ask Duke

There are many statements in this thread that I'd like to comment on, but I'll only argue one. HUR, there's no freaking way your A4 out handles a Civic Si.

Also, regarding shifting when accelerating, having to shift into 5th running the 1/4 mile's a bitch

[Edited on December 27, 2008 at 7:18 PM. Reason : ^]

12/27/2008 7:18:19 PM

The closest match up I know of is the civic type R Nurburgring times from the early 2000's was slightly faster than the R32...

12/27/2008 7:35:23 PM

If we dont stop talking about the Civic, Im removing this thread from My Topics

12/27/2008 7:38:53 PM

Back to Audi then? Or the Z4?

12/27/2008 7:41:14 PM

Yes, either would be excellent

Speaking of Audi, Im excited about the 2010 supercharged S4

12/27/2008 7:45:51 PM

I dunno, I feel as though it's not really a huge jump from what they have had for the past 4 years. They aren't doing a good job of keeping up with BMW.

12/27/2008 7:47:44 PM

I read an article about it in Evo magazine that said it was miles ahead of the current 4.2L v8 S4 and praised it from every direction

Im assuming Audi is positioning the S4 to be up against BMW's 335 inline6 twin turbo, while the RS4 is up against the M3

12/27/2008 8:12:40 PM

Sadly it seems that they are....While the dubed 3.0T makes more power throughout the rev band it is not what I would expect to see out of the next generation of a performance car.

12/27/2008 8:22:52 PM

Although Im excited to see what a supercharged Audi will do - I'm sad to see the v8 go - nothing sounds like the growl of a european NA V8.

Unfortunately european V8s are probably going to disappear completely from the sports touring segment in the next few years

12/27/2008 8:27:48 PM

Yea I enjoy the sound of my 4.2, and the lack of additional power in the b8 will keep me from looking into it. Either VF's supercharger kit that is about to be released or an Rs4 seem to be much better options.

12/27/2008 8:30:00 PM

I was actually looking into switching over to a BMW with their 0.9APR advertisements, but the cost for anything less than an M3 is just too much for what you're getting - and the M3 too far outside of my price range.

Now Im back yet again looking for a nice low-miles (~25k) 4.2 S4. You said you had a 4.2? Is it a B6 or B7?

12/27/2008 8:36:01 PM

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"Have you seen the video of the guys racing in the triangle town center parking lot. I don't put much past them these days. "

HPJ delivers. "That's how you Tokyo drift biatch!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrocJO-p20s

12/31/2008 12:50:28 PM

love the A4.

A5 would have beat him!

12/31/2008 5:09:49 PM