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1in10^9
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glad you are ok Ryan.

7/20/2008 2:05:17 AM

Kurtis636
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What a lazy, pathetic cop. How can he not issue a ticket to someone in this instance. This was not an "accident" this pretty much has to be a case of negligence or recklessness on someone's part.

7/20/2008 11:08:55 AM

AntecK7
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as much as it annoys me i can kidna understand the cops point of view, if he caint determine 100% its probably better he dostn just give out tickets. Still i wish he had.

7/20/2008 9:53:41 PM

optmusprimer
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^^ shut the fuck up. it is not the job of a patrol officer to be an accident investigator on every simple accident call. they have better things to do.

7/20/2008 10:29:32 PM

JIP2587
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^They may have better things to do... But that doesn't mean they do them. And busting up parties doesn't count as better things to do.

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"OBJECTS IN MIRROR APPEAR TO BE LOSING WINNING"


[Edited on July 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM. Reason : ,]

7/21/2008 12:41:32 AM

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"plz, never trust mirrors on bikes, besides, they are mostly worthless."

this is why you wreck idiot. you have to turn your head about 45 to 50 degrees to see in your blind spot if you dont have any mirrors. if you are in rush hour traffic, someone jams on brakes,and you have your head turned. chances are you are not that far behind them and there is always a possibility of something happening.
this is why you need mirrors for inspection. its a saefty thing. its also good to know whats around you

7/21/2008 12:42:47 AM

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"HAHA, a sportbike can accelerate to 30 mph in, like the width of the road."


Ohh yeah... I know RRs are turds, but I do know that they aren't like Katana turds

7/21/2008 1:21:33 PM

underPSI
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an RR is a turd? compared to what? an SV650?

7/21/2008 1:35:52 PM

sumfoo1
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(sarcasm she has an r6 now i believe)

7/21/2008 1:40:28 PM

optmusprimer
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^^ a turd compared to the katana he used to have

7/21/2008 3:02:02 PM

underPSI
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i'd still take a RR over an R6. transmission issues like a motherfucker.

7/21/2008 3:31:21 PM

Thunderbear
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Anybody see that wreck on the Beltline last night? I rode past what looked like a red sportbike tits up on the shoulder.

7/21/2008 4:10:58 PM

AntecK7
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report is up, except they mispelled my name

P08080090 07/16/2008 R PALUER;M GREEAR CAPITAL

7/21/2008 6:25:36 PM

Squirt
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"an RR is a turd? compared to what? an SV650"


Ha ha the SV650 was a cruiser sweety... I was picking on Ryan and he knows it ;-)

7/21/2008 9:34:46 PM

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^^cop said you were only going 15mph when hit. you cant go 15mph on a sport bike if you tried

[Edited on July 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM. Reason : b]

7/21/2008 9:35:41 PM

AntecK7
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yea i know, i was in 2nd gear, which means at least 25

hopefully my insurance will see reason

7/21/2008 9:53:47 PM

underPSI
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definitely no turds or squids here

7/21/2008 9:58:23 PM

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"Ha ha the SV650 was a cruiser "


it is no such thing.

7/22/2008 2:42:46 AM

HockeyRoman
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"is anyone on here that rides bike HAVENT been in an accident yet?"

<--- Granted I have only been riding since March but I do have 7,800 miles ridden. Most of this mileage is on the highway between Raleigh and Greensboro. I couldn't fathom being without my motorcycle now as it is my principal source of transportation.

7/22/2008 3:55:08 AM

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^^^^^no, 15mph is his estimated speed of original travel. the estimated speed at impact is blank or whited out or something... it reads 40 for the truck.

any distance you traveled airborne off the bike should be on that diagram also. make sure you insurance company knows that it happened, that's very important to document in some way in case any medical issues arise. for example, here's mine:



[Edited on July 22, 2008 at 5:03 AM. Reason : .]

7/22/2008 4:59:25 AM

AntecK7
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and its a total at 6200 dollars to repair

7/22/2008 3:00:03 PM

H8R
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buy it back

7/24/2008 12:42:09 AM

optmusprimer
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heres mine

7/24/2008 12:49:27 AM

Wyloch
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"they probably assume reckless driving just from stereotypes of sport bike riders

which is unfortunate

some idiots give all of y'all a bad rap"


I dunno. I don't know this guy - he could be responsible. But I daresay I have never once seen a sport bike on the road that wasn't going 90, bobbing and weaving in between cars, FULLY deserving to get wrecked.

7/24/2008 12:30:22 PM

Squirt
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"I dunno. I don't know this guy - he could be responsible. But I daresay I have never once seen a sport bike on the road that wasn't going 90, bobbing and weaving in between cars, FULLY deserving to get wrecked.

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So you are THAT guy that sees a motorcycle and just because its loud you assume he/she's going 90...

Look for the people that wear gear vs the people that don't.. more than likely the people wearing gear are the ones being a responsible rider... I have never seen Ryan NOT wear his gear...

7/24/2008 12:49:28 PM

BigBlueRam
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^^wow. i hope that's just a troll, but judging from your other posts i fear you might just be that ignorant.

7/24/2008 1:12:21 PM

Wyloch
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I'm not ignorant. If I'm on the highway going 75, and a bike zips by me (and the other cars around me) at a noticably fast pace, then I can probably make a conclusion that he's speeding at up around 90 mph. It could be more than that. I would hope you're capable of making the same kind of rough approximations.

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"Look for the people that wear gear vs the people that don't.. more than likely the people wearing gear are the ones being a responsible rider... "


That makes sense to me. I didn't say I had anything against bikers. All I'm saying is that I can understand where the aforementioned unfortunate stereotype comes from.

7/24/2008 1:48:23 PM

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"I dunno. I don't know this guy - he could be responsible. But I daresay I have never once seen a sport bike on the road that wasn't going 90, bobbing and weaving in between cars, FULLY deserving to get wrecked."


apparently this is the only way for them to get your attention, since you don't see any responsible ones, and i know there are plenty in the raleigh area

7/24/2008 3:19:20 PM

BigBlueRam
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^^you're ignorant because the only riders you notice are the ones doing that, when they're a clear minority of sport bike riders and motorcyclists in general. also because you seem to think that speeding automatically relates to danger or a safety hazard to anyone else but the rider. the statement that they DESERVE to wreck is even more ridiculous. maybe you should deserve to have your nuts cut off for not paying attention when you drive.

even considering the amount of people that ride like assholes, the at fault statistics on accidents are still decidedly biased towards autos. not to mention the gross differences in property damage and personal injury.

i'm not screaming for sympathy to riders here, because we/they all have taken the risk to ride knowing the possible consequences. however, that doesn't excuse cagers of being negligent.

7/24/2008 4:03:17 PM

JIP2587
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In my opinion, in light traffic, it safer to pass cars judiciously than it is to sit beside them. Dumb fuck drivers changing lanes are far more dangerous than going 90.

And wyloch, you sir, are a douche.

7/24/2008 5:21:40 PM

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"In my opinion, in light traffic, it safer to pass cars judiciously than it is to sit beside them. Dumb fuck drivers changing lanes are far more dangerous than going 90.

And wyloch, you sir, are a douche. "


id also rather be in front of someone talking on their cell phone or reading something in traffic than being beside them or behind them. if i have to speed up to 80 or 90 to get by, oh well.

7/24/2008 6:57:49 PM

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"I dunno. I don't know this guy - he could be responsible. But I daresay I have never once seen a sport bike on the road that wasn't going 90, bobbing and weaving in between cars, FULLY deserving to get wrecked."


Yep.

7/24/2008 7:13:13 PM

JBaz
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I like how everytime I rode around Campus and stayed in 1st gear going the speed limit. People would shake their fist or yell "slow down".

7/24/2008 8:28:09 PM

TULIPlovr
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First of all, I don't believe that for a second.

Secondly, you can still travel at an unsafe speed on campus in 1st gear.

7/24/2008 9:46:18 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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yeah, i know it was damn near impossible to keep the last one i had at a safe speed in 1st..

7/24/2008 9:47:09 PM

Squirt
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"In my opinion, in light traffic, it safer to pass cars judiciously than it is to sit beside them. Dumb fuck drivers changing lanes are far more dangerous than going 90"


Yea... I tend to speed only to get ahead of cars... I don't like to sit in their blind spot and I don't like to be in a position where a car or myself can possibly end up on its hood. I just try to put my self in a position where i have an escape route in case one of those fuckers decides to cut into my lane while their pissed off at the world because of their job or they are on their phone or some shit...

7/25/2008 12:02:00 PM

ncsukat
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^exactly

7/25/2008 12:06:08 PM

Igor
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"id also rather be in front of someone talking on their cell phone or reading something in traffic than being beside them or behind them. if i have to speed up to 80 or 90 to get by, oh well."


umm, behind them would be the safest spot..

7/25/2008 12:30:43 PM

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if you sit in someones blind spot in any vehicle (car or bike) you're asking for trouble. i make an effort to get out of and avoid them at all costs.

I imagine we've all been run off the road by people not looking. I can only imagine how scary that is on bikes.

[Edited on July 25, 2008 at 1:59 PM. Reason : . glad to hear youre ok. ]

7/25/2008 1:58:49 PM

ncsukat
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In my experience, it really depends on the vehicle you're riding behind.... because some people flat out cannot drive & brake uncontrollably. I usually opt to get as far away from those people as possible-- which usually involves going around them.

Ryan- any word yet on what's going on??

7/25/2008 2:04:51 PM

k2taboo
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blind spots are small enough that sometimes you catch a corner of a car when you look in a mirror but on a bike there is less mass that they can see so it is more dangerous to be in a blind spot on a bike.

7/25/2008 2:17:44 PM

TULIPlovr
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"blind spots are small enough that sometimes you catch a corner of a car when you look in a mirror but on a bike there is less mass that they can see so it is more dangerous to be in a blind spot on a bike."


Yes, but if you just got passed, these people had a very good chance to see you.

Which is a lot more than you can say for passing someone who has only (maybe) caught you in their rear-view mirror on your way to pass.

Passing through someone's blind spot, even at a good bit over their pace, is far more dangerous than that same time frame in a blind spot after being passed.

To be safest, you gotta be willing to give up some of that thrill. If someone passes you (or tries), and they're not accomplishing that very quickly, bleed off a few mph to give a safe distance and complete their pass for them. There is always someone going slowly in the right lane you can follow to give you a front buffer.

I'm a right-lane rider, except in the case of a school bus or big rig going up a hill. And I've never had a close call on the highway.

If you venture out of that, it's on your own head because you all evidently know there are plenty of idiots out there. Give the idiots some room for their idiocy and just don't play ball with them. If you do, and not to even mention riding at such excessive speeds mention here - you knowingly took the risk and have very little room to complain when idiots act like idiots.



[Edited on July 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM. Reason : a]

7/25/2008 2:26:50 PM

FL37
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I am still trying to figure out how the sport bike rider that was probably going 90 and weaving through traffic got rear ended by the truck that was going 40...?

7/25/2008 3:48:11 PM

Hurley
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^get the fuuuck out of the garage. hows about that

7/25/2008 4:12:55 PM

Wyloch
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"^^you're ignorant because the only riders you notice are the ones doing that, when they're a clear minority of sport bike riders and motorcyclists in general. also because you seem to think that speeding automatically relates to danger or a safety hazard to anyone else but the rider. the statement that they DESERVE to wreck is even more ridiculous. maybe you should deserve to have your nuts cut off for not paying attention when you drive."


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"In my opinion, in light traffic, it safer to pass cars judiciously than it is to sit beside them. Dumb fuck drivers changing lanes are far more dangerous than going 90."


Use your words, guys. I know you can do this.

The scenario I described was "going 90 and bobbing/weaving in and out of traffic." That is, if two cars are running side-by-side in two lanes next to each other, the biker goes in between them (on the dotted white line). And yes, I say anyone stupid enough to do that pretty much deserves anything that happens to them (such as a wreck due to their own recklessness). To be clear: the danger I observed was not so much in going 90, but the bobbing and weaving and typical lack of turn signal use.

Furthermore, I am capable of viewing more things at one time through my windshield than a reckless biker...because I have two working eyes. In other words, sure, cut my nuts off for not paying attention when I drive...good luck catching that happening though.

I'm sure there ARE responsible bikers. In fact I KNOW there are (people such as BBR). FOR CHRISSAKES, ALL I was saying is that understand where the unfortunate stereotype comes from. A responsible biker is transparent because, well, he's being responsible! Can we stop agreeing so fucking much??

[Edited on July 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM. Reason : ]

7/25/2008 5:21:07 PM

JIP2587
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"umm, behind them would be the safest spot.."


In some cases this is true. But for the most part, that requires going too slow, and often puts you in someone elses blind spot. Passing people quickly, you only stay in each persons blind spot for a very short period of time, and since they're ahead of you, you can better see if they're about to change lanes.

The fact that someone just passed you is NO INDICATION THAT THEY SAW YOU. The only time I've had a close call on the freeway was when some ass hat came up beside me, from behind, and merged all the way into my lane. Since then, I have never gone slower then traffic, and never had another close call.

I wish anyone who thinks a motorcyclist deserves a wreck would go kill themselves. People die in motorcycle accidents, NO ONE has EVER deserved that for their driving behavior.

[Edited on July 25, 2008 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

7/25/2008 6:04:35 PM

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"I wish anyone who thinks a motorcyclist deserves a wreck would go kill themselves."


What about anyone who only thinks that irresponsible motorcyclists deserve a wreck?

7/25/2008 6:28:51 PM

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Having traveled to a few countries in the 3rd world it amazes me how good the drivers are.
with trucks and motos and cars all crammed within inches of each other. They all seem to work it out and not waffle each other (for the most part) Then again they're poor and not yakking on the cell or texting.

7/25/2008 6:40:28 PM

Igor
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^tr00tr00

Asians can drive like champs over in Asia. They just can't do it over here for the most part

7/25/2008 6:56:20 PM

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"Use your words, guys. I know you can do this."

i'm using lots of words, you just seem to be lacking in comprehension.

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"The scenario I described was "going 90 and bobbing/weaving in and out of traffic." That is, if two cars are running side-by-side in two lanes next to each other, the biker goes in between them (on the dotted white line)."

again, ignorance. you obviously are IGNORANT to the laws and accident data concerning motorcycles. you're just pulling your comments out of your ass. in california, it is perfectly legal to lane split (passing between cars on the dotted white). same with most areas in europe. it's desperately needed in other urban area in the u.s. besides ca, but like so many other things the laws haven't caught up with the times. the facts are clear that allowing motorcycles to lane split reduces the risk of collisions involving them, especially rear end ones. just because something seems dangerous to you doesn't make it so.

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"To be clear: the danger I observed was not so much in going 90, but the bobbing and weaving and typical lack of turn signal use."

please explain to me the purpose of using turn signals on a vehicle supposedly traveling at least ~20mph in excess of any posted speed limit?

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"And yes, I say anyone stupid enough to do that pretty much deserves anything that happens to them (such as a wreck due to their own recklessness)."

again, you're labeling something as a wreckless behavior for invalid reasons. everyone should be responsible for their actions and accept any associated risks with those actions, but wishing harm to someone just because they're doing something you don't like is asinine.

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"ALL I was saying is that understand where the unfortunate stereotype comes from."

all we're saying is the stereotype shouldn't exist in the first place, and that it's only perpetuated by comments like the ones you're making.

7/25/2008 8:45:30 PM

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