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bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	it's full or half... otherwise it wouldn't let me choose full duplex works great to the dsl modem - no collisions on e0/0. full duplex to two different switches is causing a huge slowdown out of e0/1. i wonder if it could be a layer 1 problem... will check cable that goes to main switch when i get a chance after everyone leaves. [Edited on March 17, 2008 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ] 3/17/2008 2:06:24 PM
wut Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post	could be vendor compatability issue. are both switches from the same vendor? debug the interface and see what comes up [Edited on March 17, 2008 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .] 3/17/2008 2:19:55 PM
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post	You should throw that service policy on there right now anyhow. Its not going to affect their web traffic, and would only help to optimize their upload queue/drops. And yes, you would apply it in addition to the VOIP service policy that Bobby helped you with. [Edited on March 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .] 3/17/2008 3:03:09 PM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	yeah i've got that up... after i verified the problems were with e0/1 on the full/half-duplex i applied the policies... what's the best way to test this? i'd like to see the amount of traffic and what not laid out if possible, showing that the policies are working. [Edited on March 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM. Reason : ] 3/17/2008 3:14:43 PM
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post	show policy-map int e0/0 post the output here and I will take a look to verify. [Edited on March 17, 2008 at 3:20 PM. Reason : .] 3/17/2008 3:19:30 PM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	CISCO#show policy-map int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 Service-policy output: PARENT Class-map: class-default (match-any) 423817 packets, 60399349 bytes 5 minute offered rate 92000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Traffic Shaping Target/Average Byte Sustain Excess Interval Increment Rate Limit bits/int bits/int (ms) (bytes) 512000/512000 3200 12800 12800 25 1600 Adapt Queue Packets Bytes Packets Bytes Shaping Active Depth Delayed Delayed Active - 0 423647 60161517 15025 5424386 no Service-policy : VOIP Class-map: voip (match-any) 423296 packets, 60367953 bytes 5 minute offered rate 92000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: ip rtp 51044 0 0 packets, 0 bytes 5 minute rate 0 bps Match: access-group 2 423296 packets, 60367953 bytes 5 minute rate 92000 bps Queueing Strict Priority Output Queue: Conversation 40 Bandwidth 360 (kbps) Burst 9000 (Bytes) (pkts matched/bytes matched) 15184/5661568 (total drops/bytes drops) 171/237902 Class-map: class-default (match-any) 521 packets, 31396 bytes 5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Queueing Flow Based Fair Queueing Maximum Number of Hashed Queues 32 (total queued/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/0/0 CISCO# 3/17/2008 3:25:47 PM
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post	CISCO#show policy-map int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 Service-policy output: PARENT Class-map: class-default (match-any) 423817 packets, 60399349 bytes 5 minute offered rate 92000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Traffic Shaping Target/Average Byte Sustain Excess Interval Increment Rate Limit bits/int bits/int (ms) (bytes) 512000/512000 3200 12800 12800 25 1600 Adapt Queue Packets Bytes Packets Bytes Shaping Active Depth Delayed Delayed Active - 0 423647 60161517 15025 5424386 no >>> Here we see that you have hit your 512 max rate at some point, and so the shaper was active, but is not currently at this precise moment. Service-policy : VOIP Class-map: voip (match-any) 423296 packets, 60367953 bytes 5 minute offered rate 92000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: ip rtp 51044 0 0 packets, 0 bytes 5 minute rate 0 bps Match: access-group 2 423296 packets, 60367953 bytes 5 minute rate 92000 bps Queueing Strict Priority Output Queue: Conversation 40 Bandwidth 360 (kbps) Burst 9000 (Bytes) (pkts matched/bytes matched) 15184/5661568 (total drops/bytes drops) 171/237902 Class-map: class-default (match-any) 521 packets, 31396 bytes 5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Queueing Flow Based Fair Queueing Maximum Number of Hashed Queues 32 (total queued/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/0/0 CISCO# Looks pretty good in general, but does seem that you are going over your total 360kbps in voice at some point there. May want to tweak it up just a bit more, but 171 drops out of 423k packets isnt really that bad. [Edited on March 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM. Reason : .] 3/17/2008 3:57:34 PM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	adjusted it to 448 from 360 and cleared counters. i'll check it tomorrow and see how we do there. overall i think it's working... 3/17/2008 4:23:04 PM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	switching cables to the switch on e0/1 didn't work... full duplex still won't work on that... so odd. won't work hooked up to 2 different 10/100mbps switches. 3/17/2008 4:41:48 PM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	CISCO#show policy-map int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 Service-policy output: PARENT Class-map: class-default (match-any) 1149517 packets, 143652896 bytes 5 minute offered rate 99000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Traffic Shaping Target/Average Byte Sustain Excess Interval Increment Rate Limit bits/int bits/int (ms) (bytes) 512000/512000 3200 12800 12800 25 1600 Adapt Queue Packets Bytes Packets Bytes Shaping Active Depth Delayed Delayed Active - 0 1149284 143322895 13789 6696108 no Service-policy : VOIP Class-map: voip (match-any) 1142863 packets, 143251865 bytes 5 minute offered rate 99000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: ip rtp 51044 0 0 packets, 0 bytes 5 minute rate 0 bps Match: access-group 2 1142863 packets, 143251865 bytes 5 minute rate 99000 bps Queueing Strict Priority Output Queue: Conversation 40 Bandwidth 448 (kbps) Burst 11200 (Bytes) (pkts matched/bytes matched) 14014/7025633 (total drops/bytes drops) 235/330125 Class-map: class-default (match-any) 6655 packets, 401085 bytes 5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Queueing Flow Based Fair Queueing Maximum Number of Hashed Queues 32 (total queued/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/0/0 Am I reading this right to show 4.7% of bytes are dropped ??? (330125 / 7025633) ? Also, shouldn't Match: ip rtp 51044 0 show numbers other than 0? Is it not actually matching up udp port 51044, but it's just matching access-group 2 (permit any)? EDIT: took out access-group 2 match since that was just giving all traffic priority, heh. I left only the ip rtp 15044 1 (correct port this time) and that is now matching data. [Edited on March 18, 2008 at 10:05 AM. Reason : ] CISCO#show policy-map int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 Service-policy output: PARENT Class-map: class-default (match-any) 5672 packets, 1649382 bytes 5 minute offered rate 59000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Traffic Shaping Target/Average Byte Sustain Excess Interval Increment Rate Limit bits/int bits/int (ms) (bytes) 512000/512000 3200 12800 12800 25 1600 Adapt Queue Packets Bytes Packets Bytes Shaping Active Depth Delayed Delayed Active - 0 5672 1649382 371 406378 no Service-policy : VOIP Class-map: voip (match-any) 1815 packets, 129326 bytes 5 minute offered rate 19000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: ip rtp 15044 1 1815 packets, 129326 bytes 5 minute rate 0 bps Queueing Strict Priority Output Queue: Conversation 40 Bandwidth 448 (kbps) Burst 11200 (Bytes) (pkts matched/bytes matched) 40/2764 (total drops/bytes drops) 0/0 Class-map: class-default (match-any) 3857 packets, 1520056 bytes 5 minute offered rate 34000 bps, drop rate 0 bps Match: any Queueing Flow Based Fair Queueing Maximum Number of Hashed Queues 32 (total queued/total drops/no-buffer drops) 0/0/0 [Edited on March 18, 2008 at 10:12 AM. Reason : new sh policy-map int e0/0] 3/18/2008 10:00:22 AM
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post	what kind of ethernet interface is it? is it on a WIC or built in? classic 10MB ethernet ports are only spec'ed for half duplex, but we've made some 10MB ports that are not quite standard that will do full duplex, which is typically only seen on Fast Ethernet ports. Let me know what kind of interface it's on. (maybe grab a show inventory or show diag) and i can figure out if that situation applies. 3/18/2008 10:13:01 AM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	built-in. full-duplex works on e0/0 hooked up to the dsl modem. e0/1 doesn't work full-duplex (goes to about 1% of available bandwidth) hooked up to 2 different switches so far. CISCO#sh diag Slot 0: C2611 2E Mainboard Port adapter, 3 ports Port adapter is analyzed Port adapter insertion time unknown EEPROM contents at hardware discovery: Hardware Revision : 2.3 PCB Serial Number : JAD053403B4 (1345854647) Part Number : 73-2840-13 RMA History : 00 RMA Number : 0-0-0-0 Board Revision : C0 Deviation Number : 0-26213 Product (FRU) Number : C2611 - 2E EEPROM format version 4 EEPROM contents (hex): 0x00: 04 FF 40 00 92 41 02 03 C1 18 4A 41 44 30 35 33 0x10: 34 30 33 42 34 20 28 31 33 34 35 38 35 34 36 34 0x20: 37 29 82 49 0B 18 0D 04 00 81 00 00 00 00 42 43 0x30: 30 80 00 00 66 65 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0x40: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0x50: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0x60: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0x70: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF WIC Slot 0: DSU 56K Hardware revision 1.0 Board revision A0 Serial number 14857914 Part number 74-0573-05 FRU Part Number WIC-1DSU-56K4= Test history 0x0 RMA number 00-00-00 Connector type Wan Module EEPROM format version 1 EEPROM contents (hex): 0x20: 01 0B 01 00 00 E2 B6 BA 4A 02 3D 05 00 00 00 00 0x30: 50 00 00 00 01 08 02 01 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF CISCO#sh inventory NAME: "2611 chassis", DESCR: "2611 chassis, Hw Serial#: JAD053403B4 (1345854647), Hw Revision: 0x203" PID: , VID: 0x203, SN: JAD053403B4 (1345854647) [Edited on March 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM. Reason : ] 3/18/2008 10:25:14 AM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	would it be worth it to assign a policy for inbound VOIP traffic, too... or would that not even do anything since i don't control it until it reaches the router ? 3/18/2008 1:49:44 PM
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post	You dont need an inbound policy (unless you are maxing out your 10M ethernet interface. If you start seeing output drops on that interface, you may start considering a policy outbound on the lan ethernet interface. An inbound policy on the wan interface would not do you any good though. -- also, the change you made looks alot better now. I wouldnt expect any more drops to be seen on that router. Do you have QoS on a remote site or anything? I imagine these voice calls are going to a remote location somewhere. 3/19/2008 8:37:21 AM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	it's hosted PBX, so it goes to 1 place over the internet and i'm sure they do all they can to give voice priority... i know i've done all i can. my limitation now is DSL latency / overall line quality. (pkts matched/bytes matched) 19234/1403805 (total drops/bytes drops) 0/0 i think my problem now could be collisions on the LAN with not having full duplex... still working on that. i have a linksys/cisco 24 port switch i'm about to test hooked up to it. [Edited on March 19, 2008 at 9:02 AM. Reason : ] 3/19/2008 8:59:07 AM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	Okay i just hooked up e0/1 to a Linksys SR224G ( http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&cid=1159570515618 ) Full-Duplex still comes to a halt... bad IOS version? bad port? 3/19/2008 9:59:45 AM
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post	i'm thinking bad port, since the other ethernet port doesn't have the same problem. 3/19/2008 10:06:25 AM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	i'm gonna switch e0/0 and e0/1 config and cable... see if full duplex doesn't work on exact setup switched. i am also trying a new ios soon w/ ssh support. 3/20/2008 7:57:21 AM
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post	yeah you probably bought a broken router off EBAY ... Happens all the time. I may have an extra one lying around somewhere though if you want to buy it. I would give you a 30 day warantee 3/20/2008 9:09:56 PM
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post	bump per request 10/7/2008 12:32:59 PM
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post	all problems fixed ... upgraded to a 2611XM with FastE ports, no collisions, no problems with VOIP, etc. just couldn't get full duplex to work on the 10mbit ports for the regular 2611. 10/7/2008 2:18:57 PM

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