I'm sure he has a specific reason, he's just making it a point not to share it.

2/9/2008 3:29:25 PM

^ exactly. My reasons are my own.

2/9/2008 4:12:22 PM

water only since 4pm yesterday...

2/11/2008 9:28:15 AM

I wound up starting around 10 last night. I found that a quart of oil had slowly leaked all over the carpet behind the driver's seat in my new truck and I was cleaning that up till around 9pm.

I'm going with the advice of others and I'll be drinking water most of the day, I had an orange for breakfast, I'll have an apple with green tea for lunch, and then some more fruit this evening.

2/11/2008 9:37:52 AM

Maybe I'll go out and grab some fruit. Depends on if it warms up or not outside...

(i'm sorry about your truck...i hope you were able to get it out )

2/11/2008 9:46:22 AM

I fasted for three days on Green Vibrance superfood, natural juices, water, and fruits one time. I didn't have any specific reason or goals other than to see what the juice/water/fruit fasting was all about. I actually felt really good after the first day.

2/11/2008 9:58:37 AM

I highly recommend against any massive shock or routine change to jump start a healthier lifestyle. I think culturally we're inclined to believe that BIG changes require BIG actions but you're a lot more likely to slip back into old habits if you try to do something thats obscenely hard to maintain.

I recommend that you give up any drink that has sugar or salt in it: namely soda and sweet tea. By give up, I mean permanently. Getting calories from liquids is amazingly stupid and you'll reduce your sugar intake by a lot. If you can do that, then go ahead and cut down on the amount of sweets in general that you eat. Obvious stuff like candy, chocolates, ice creams etc.

Once you've reduced your sugar intake, then begin to cut down on the amount of fatty foods you ingest daily. Nachos, philly cheesesteak sandwitches, chinese take out etc. All of these foods are effectively poisoning you. Replace them with healthier fare. If you eat out constantly, go for soups and salads (without dressing).

If you can maintain these changes, and you should if stick to them for a month a piece, then you can start doing more fantastic stuff.

2/11/2008 10:11:02 AM

some people fast for other reasons than 'health'

2/11/2008 9:24:15 PM

religion

2/11/2008 9:26:39 PM

religious practices, glycogen depletion, and surgery preparation are the only legitimate reasons I can think of for why a person should fast. Even the glycogen depletion reason is a little iffy, because you can glycogen deplete while still eating certain foods.

2/11/2008 10:09:56 PM

Is fasting for only 24 hours really that big of a deal? And can it be effective?

Maybe my system is all messed up, but it isn't uncommon for me to not eat for 24 hours and I don't feel any different. Sometimes I just forget to eat

2/11/2008 10:31:40 PM

don't listen to these pussies. Fast for 24 hours and start your diet. Show your body who the fuck is in charge.

2/11/2008 10:39:21 PM

granted, i dont feel that different from doing the whole 24 hours of water only, but its certainly gotten me to drink a lot more water at the same time as eating healthy.

so worked for me

2/15/2008 11:43:46 AM

I've started to only eat a bowl of cheerios for my meals lately. I've been on a really strict diet lately and then one night my dad told me that I was gaining weight since I've been on it. Very dicouraging on my part. So now (except yesterday) I've been trying to only eat cheerios for my meals. I've also picked back up on my workout routine. Cardio every day, and weight training tuesday thursday and saturday

2/15/2008 12:20:42 PM

you should add some protein into your diet after you workout though. like a protein shake or grilled chicken.

2/15/2008 12:37:05 PM

do the lemon juice fast

you'll feel like dying [/no lil wayne]

2/15/2008 12:39:33 PM

everytime I read this I want to make a fisting parody

2/15/2008 3:16:33 PM

^ ?topic=513862

[Edited on February 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2008 3:18:02 PM

FUCK FASTING FOR ONE DAY !! FAST EVERYDAY.....in the form of eating less you fatass

2/15/2008 6:59:02 PM

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"So now (except yesterday) I've been trying to only eat cheerios for my meals."

That's moronic, unhealthy, and unscientific.

You want to lose weight? Eat these, and ONLY THESE for a month, and then thank me:

At every meal:

Large bowl of unprocessed oats/barley (with fruit and/or honey)
2 teaspoons extra virgin olive oil
Cup of skim milk (can be mixed with 1st item)

Throughout the day:

Fruits and vegetables (non-starchy, i.e., no potatoes) (at least 5-6 servings daily)


IF YOU REALLY have to have commercial cereal out of a box, go for Kellogg's All-Bran.


[Edited on February 15, 2008 at 9:29 PM. Reason : And at least 2.5 litres of water a day, half of it with food.]

2/15/2008 9:27:14 PM

^ wheres the protein source? You cant just live off milk for proteinz

2/16/2008 4:47:56 PM

Fasting and dieting are being confused in this thread.

2/17/2008 12:24:28 PM

this is a horrible idea. never fast like that unless you seriously know what you are doing.

my best friend hadn't been taking care of herself for quite some time, and eventually got sick of how she felt and looked. she saw a doctor about it, who proceeded to put her on a 6 week detox, starting with a week of eating only a special shake. she's only 4 weeks into it and has already lost weight and been feeling much better in the general health sense.

long story short- dont fast for a day because you think it'll help you get "back on track"... if anything, its just going to hurt you. if you really want to get on track- go see a specialist (or at the very least a primary physician) about it.


(an important thing to remember: just fasting or detoxing alone isn't going to help- you need to change your eating habits, which is much more difficult than most people think. it's pretty much a lifestyle change- and you have to be very motivated to actually do it successfully)

2/17/2008 1:13:33 PM

Yea its very very difficult to change eating habits in general, especially if you're young and tend to eat out a lot like most of our demographic. Restaurant food for the most part is near poison as far as healthy eating goes.

2/17/2008 1:33:46 PM

that is a retarted thing to say......

2/17/2008 11:45:14 PM

^ both of his ^^ sentences not only make sense, but are also perfectly correct and true. evidence can be found everywhere, if one just keeps their eyes open.

2/18/2008 7:13:08 PM

sorry for the delay

bees and beekeeping taught me there is no such thing as pure honey

either it is or it isn't honey

2/18/2008 7:18:44 PM

^ what was that in response to?

2/18/2008 9:43:03 PM

So has anyone here ever done a detox/cleansing diet? If so, what do you recommend?

2/19/2008 10:23:47 AM

I just watched an episode of The Truth About Food where they tested a week-long detox diet, and they found it did nothing. The participants did water/fresh juice days the first and last day and nothing but fruits and vegetables for the rest of the week. They compared the detox group with a group of women eating normally, then tested things like liver function and levels of toxins in the body, and nothing changed. But the detox ones did lose some weight, if that means anything.

2/19/2008 10:27:31 AM

you dont have to stop eating everything.

moderation is key.

its people who dont know when/(what) to stop eating that get fat and are unhealthy.

2/19/2008 10:44:50 AM

MYTHBUSTERS !

2/19/2008 10:46:47 AM

my parents do a "liver cleansing diet" once in a while, and they say it makes them feel better. I'm wanting to do it as a way of getting back to eating semi-healthy instead of all the fast food and eating out that I've done the past few months. Also, I've never done a real diet before where I've followed a regimen... I'd like to try it once.

2/19/2008 11:08:52 AM

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"^ what was that in response to?"

from page one:

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"wlb420 All American 5770 Posts user info edit post white tea is really good as well....unsweetened of course, but if you really need it sweetened, pure honey is a good way to go. 2/8/2008 11:17:29 AM"

just doing my part

2/19/2008 5:44:43 PM

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"moderation is key. "

2/19/2008 5:46:23 PM

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"bees and beekeeping taught me there is no such thing as pure honey either it is or it isn't honey"

True, but THERE is such a thing as 'commercial heated/pasteurized filtered honey', and 'raw honey'.

I just ordered some raw honey on the internet, and I am REALLY REALLY looking forward to having it. Something tells me it is gonna taste a helluva lot better than commerical 'Sue Bee' honey (and will be a lot more nutritious). It will have flecks of pollen, propolis, and honeycomb in it, since it is unfiltered.

Next on my list:

RAW MILK. (and consequently, raw milk products, such as yogurt, cheese, and ice cream)

But that is hard to get... however, I will get my hands on it soon.

For those who say there is no difference nutritionally or tastewise between commerical products and raw products, tell me there is no difference (nutritional or taste) between fresh home-squeezed apple/orange juice, and commerical bottled (i.e., filtered and heated) apple/orange juice.

I WANT THE REAL STUFF DAMMIT

2/22/2008 5:34:08 PM

processed honey is more appealing to me than raw honey. the texture is smoother and more consistent.

the thought of ordering raw milk makes me . I've drank milk 5 minutes removed from a cow before, but the thought of ordering something like that and having it shipped to me creeps me out.

2/22/2008 6:05:30 PM

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"I've drank milk 5 minutes removed from a cow before, but the thought of ordering something like that and having it shipped to me creeps me out."

So how did it taste? Any different from homogenized pasteurized milk? Taste, texture, mouth-feel, etc?

And no raw milk can't be ordered on the net and neither can you have it shipped to you, silly boy. If it is not heat-treated, it needs constant refrigeration. You can only get it from local farms and co-operatives. Also from some shops/stores licensed to sell it.

2/22/2008 6:50:01 PM

It's currently illegal for human consumption in NC. However, you can order it as "pet milk" provided, of course, that you don't intend to drink it yourself.

2/22/2008 7:04:38 PM

^^it tastes hot and thick. you can tell it still have all the constituents of butter in it from the creamy texture. It's not a bad taste, but I'd rather drink pasteurized milk that's been chilled and had more of the milk fat removed.

2/23/2008 2:02:45 PM

^ if it is commerical whole milk, none of the fat has been removed, just been homogenized (stirred at a high speed to break fat globules into smaller pieces so that they stay mixed in, and not come to the top).

i still wouldn't mind having raw homogenized milk. it is the pasteurization that i have an objection to. sure, it kills harmful bacteria, but it kills magnitudes of order more good bacteria, and destroys many enzymes. not to mention, radically alters the taste.

2/23/2008 5:01:28 PM

good bacteria isn't going to do you any good when you get milk contaminated with stuff like e. coli, salmonella, rabies, and staph.

also, the enzymes in milk are bovine enzymes. Your body has no use for them since human enzymes are different. This is the same reason why the peptides used in the dairy industry such as growth hormone and IGF-1 for increasing milk production have no effect on the humans that drink the milk.

when you consider just how nasty a dairy operation is, you'll understand why pasteurization is so important. You wouldn't eat uncooked beef, yet dairy products are exposed to the same risk of infection from sick cows and fecal matter contamination.

2/23/2008 5:40:23 PM

Quote :

"You wouldn't eat uncooked beef,"

the hell i wouldnt

beef carpaccio is delicious

2/23/2008 5:46:13 PM

Quote :

"I just ordered some raw honey on the internet, and I am REALLY REALLY looking forward to having it. Something tells me it is gonna taste a helluva lot better than commerical 'Sue Bee' honey (and will be a lot more nutritious). It will have flecks of pollen, propolis, and honeycomb in it, since it is unfiltered."

also lots of yummy bee parts-- legs, wings, etc....

2/24/2008 1:29:02 PM

actually no, not at all

2/24/2008 1:40:49 PM

that's not what discovery channel said

2/24/2008 1:48:53 PM

Quote :

"also lots of yummy bee parts-- legs, wings, etc.... "

what's wring with that? people eat WHOLE insects... a couple of twig-like legs is no big deal.

and insect legs look very unique; one can pick them out of the honey.

again, i don't have a problem with filtered honey; it is the pasteurization (COOKING) that i have a problem with.

if i want milk or honey, i want milk and honey, not COOKED milk nor COOKED honey. imagine how much damage the heating does to both the nutritional profile and the taste.

2/24/2008 2:08:36 PM

it doesn't do any more damage than your stomach acid does. people used to use that same ignorant mentality with why they thought eating raw eggs somehow provided better nutrients to the body.

2/24/2008 2:50:34 PM