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[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 9:17 PM. Reason :

2/5/2008 9:17:44 PM

WillemJoel
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lol

the only one i haven't read of the top 7 is Freakonomics.

wait, i haven't read Atlas Shrugged, either. Only The Fountainhead.

poor Bronte

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM. Reason : asdfasdfasfdasfasfd]

2/5/2008 9:22:32 PM

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shut up joel, you can't read.

2/5/2008 9:23:51 PM

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big boobies on a short crazy latina..

2/5/2008 10:20:05 PM

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This book made me feel dumb...


[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 10:52 PM. Reason : /]

2/5/2008 10:27:09 PM

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1350 and i love Enders Game, Enders Shadow, Lord of the Rings, Da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons, etc.

and I think i did poorly on the SAT, i still dont know why people say that is high. 250 points away from 1600, pff, maybe if i was 1450 or higher I would have been satisfied.


[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 10:39 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2008 10:38:06 PM

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"SAT doesn't prove if you are smart or dumb"

it's basically an intelligence test

2/5/2008 10:40:23 PM

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^ key word prove. I would guess that over 50% of dumb people that do poorly on it have a matching IQ and vice-versa. There's a chart out there somewhere for this.

Edit, first post was ignorant.

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2/5/2008 10:43:58 PM

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"making something of themselves" != "intelligent"

and i would hope that all "dumb people" (not that you can just self define those people anyway) do poorly on it, not just 50%.

is that even what you were trying to say? either way, i'm glad you have such high standards.

2/5/2008 10:47:13 PM

WillemJoel
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and I know some dumb fucks who have read Vonnegut and Rand, too.

2/5/2008 10:48:09 PM

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heh, i have

2/5/2008 10:48:53 PM

WillemJoel
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you're a pretty smart fella, cody

you and i both know one person to whom i could be referring.

2/5/2008 10:51:00 PM

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"Atlas Shrugged" is in exactly the right position

Not to talk shit to people who like it, they don't necessarily fit this description, but

a lot of fans of the book are intelligent enough to understand Ayn Rand's philosophy, yet still stupid enough to swallow it whole

V changed back, dawg...on second thought it seemed like it was more of a parody sort of post...all good


[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM. Reason : /]

2/5/2008 10:51:01 PM

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gaither i came back in here to look up that book you posted. why the edit holmes?

^ lol thanks mang. sorry if i outed you to homeboy down v

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 10:54 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2008 10:51:35 PM

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^^lol yeah. i love rand, but it's almost like reading fantasy.


wait wait wait....JefferyBSG is Gaither??? I never knew.

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2/5/2008 10:51:39 PM

JeffreyBSG
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yup, here on TWW you see all the shit I would never write about in columns

2/5/2008 10:56:23 PM

WillemJoel
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oh hell

you're still writing columns?

jesus. i remember when you came in and spoke to my class once. I believe the prof was Dr. Reavis. I could be wrong, though.

2/5/2008 10:57:46 PM

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no, I graduated and haven't written since last May

I remember that...it was Dr. Reavis...there was a really hot chick in the back row that I thought was Christin Liverance

2/5/2008 10:59:21 PM

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I don't think Christin was in there with me.

she's got a dude now, btw.

however, there were some cuties in there (twas an English class)

2/5/2008 11:01:12 PM

d7freestyler
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it wasn't an engineering class if it had cuties.

2/5/2008 11:02:25 PM

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I think that's why I never performed up to my full potential.

too many womens.

I've become a much better writer since graduating.

2/5/2008 11:04:42 PM

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haha, interesting take

Arthur Miller did write absolutely nothing while he was married to Marilyn Monroe

2/5/2008 11:06:31 PM

WillemJoel
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wait.

Focus Arthur Miller??? he was married to Marilyn Monroe??

2/5/2008 11:07:30 PM

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I was in that class. I'm pretty sure Christin was in there.

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

2/5/2008 11:08:08 PM

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^^
Yup

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"Miller - "the man who had all the luck" - married Marilyn Monroe in 1956; they divorced in 1961. At that time Marilyn was beyond saving. She died in 1962."

2/5/2008 11:08:35 PM

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^^man, lemme ask her. seems like I'd remember that.

LOFUCKINGL

A 13 YEAR WRITING GAP

yeah i know you were in there, Jake.

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM. Reason : ashfldkashfdklahsfklhasfha;sl]

2/5/2008 11:09:52 PM

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^^^
I seem to recall she wasn't, cause I was going to compliment her on being the best stylist on Technician staff, but then I just had to tell the class...maybe she was there but just didn't want to be recognized

2/5/2008 11:12:22 PM

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she hasn't responded via text yet.

i really don't think she was in there, though. i've known her for quite a good bit.

yeah, I know she wasn't...cause Dick used to always compare our Technician writings in class, and Jake and I would always compare pieces. If she were in there, we would've compared with her, too. HOWEVER, there was a girl in there, can't recall her name, but she had very similar features to those of Christin.

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:15 PM. Reason : ehasflha]

2/5/2008 11:14:39 PM

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she was pretty quiet in the class

2/5/2008 11:15:05 PM

JeffreyBSG
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^^
yeah, and then I was all ready to compliment that chick, and it wasn't Christin

2/5/2008 11:21:09 PM

WillemJoel
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I feel like I recall years ago you posting on here about how well she writes. I think it was after that fallout with her ex, or maybe just after one of her dating columns (which people incessantly shat upon for whatever reasons).

2/5/2008 11:23:45 PM

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yeah, some ex bf of hers got pissed off at her Sexcapades column, and started some silly crusade to get it banned

I never understood that, Sexcapades was excellent

2/5/2008 11:27:30 PM

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"1 Get a friend of yours to download, using Facebook, the ten most frequent "favorite books" at every college (manually -- as not to violate Facebook's ToS). These ten books are indicative of the overall intellectual milieu of that college.
2 Download the average SAT/ACT score for students attending every college.
3 Presto! We have a correlation between books and dumbitude (smartitude too)!"


This actually seems like a pretty terrible way to measure something like this, even if it did actually mean something.


I'm surprised one of his steps didn't say ... Profit!

2/6/2008 1:03:33 AM

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men are from mars, women are from venis

2/6/2008 1:07:04 AM

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1360, but some of my favorites from that list stick in about the 1050 range.

2/6/2008 1:10:23 AM

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"I like how Lolita is at the top...you have to be really smart to view pedophilia with an open mind"


If you aren't reading Lolita for the language of it, there's no point regardless of the subject matter.

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"and I think Atlas Shrugged should be lower"


[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .]

2/6/2008 1:15:36 AM

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figured still furshia would post near me if i posted here

2/6/2008 2:33:50 AM

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I got a 1450...I wanna see where Adventures of Huckleberry Finn shows up.

2/6/2008 2:36:06 AM

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Myself and most of my friends got in the 1400s or higher...

And we all read humor, which doesn't even show up as a genre on the list of books that make you dumb.

Humor readers are generally successful people who tend to perform well in college. Proven fact.

2/6/2008 5:05:36 AM

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what about tucker max bro's brah man

2/6/2008 5:10:01 AM

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"If you aren't reading Lolita for the language of it, there's no point regardless of the subject matter."


No, no point at all
It's not a great, famous book which deserves to be read on the merits of things other than language
The plot sux
The characters are boring
The emotions are all hackneyed and untrue
Yep, language the only valid reason for reading it




[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 8:41 AM. Reason : /]

2/6/2008 8:17:00 AM

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"Not to talk shit to people who like it, they don't necessarily fit this description, but

a lot of fans of the book are intelligent enough to understand Ayn Rand's philosophy, yet still stupid enough to swallow it whole"

Intelligence != common sense.
At first, I felt so awesome that The Secret wasn't on there, but then I saw the Power of Positive Thinking, and it made me weep for humanity.

2/6/2008 9:14:30 AM

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1520 (800 verbal), and I've read and enjoyed books all over that spectrum. Probably my favorite of the ones listed though would be Catch 22, though I've never read any of the 4 books that placed higher on the list. (I do own Freakonomics but I haven't gotten to it yet, my "to read" stack is pretty tall.) I began Atlas Shrugged back in HS when I thought Ayn Rand was the best thing since sliced bread, after finishing The Fountainhead, but never got through it...damn thing just bored me after a while.

2/6/2008 9:19:29 AM

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^^ I'm going to see a theater production of Catch 22 this weekend

but I only made a 700 on the SAT verbal... I was on drugs, however

I scored a 630 on the GRE verbal

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2/6/2008 9:41:20 AM

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2/6/2008 10:02:11 AM

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do people (other than your mom) tell you you're smart?

is this an indicator of intelligence?

2/6/2008 10:18:13 AM

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bttt

2/6/2008 10:26:58 AM

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^^^

Truth

2/6/2008 11:51:45 AM

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"It's not a great, famous book which deserves to be read on the merits of things other than language
The plot sux
The characters are boring
The emotions are all hackneyed and untrue
Yep, language the only valid reason for reading it"


The things you listed are all functions of its language, especially the characters and emotions.

You're the one who said "Smart people love pedophiles, hurrrr!"

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:19 PM. Reason : /]

2/6/2008 12:18:41 PM

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show me something that ISN'T language

2/6/2008 12:34:38 PM

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