you guys are sort of getting your feelings hurt and taken this argument i'm presenting out of context. i expect. it only proves me correct.

1/6/2008 12:36:33 PM

last time i was at jax, this dude kept sayin how he was from new york and raleigh aint shit and blah blah in the most stereotypical annoying ass new york accent ever

he got laughed out the bar

I'm one of those people that don't care where you're from, but he was definitely the prototypical up-north douchebag

[Edited on January 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM. Reason : i mean hell i agreed with him, raleigh aint the most jumpin place in the world, haha]

1/6/2008 12:37:47 PM

see thats not me. i'm not that type of asshole. half the time i don't even mention i'm from NY. it just becomes obvious. and I don't pull the NYC greater card amongst friends. to me it's just an observation.

1/6/2008 1:04:37 PM

he got pissed when my boy called him Johnny Two-Times, lawl

1/6/2008 1:07:26 PM

I'm guessing that in NYC, and the world by extension, there isn't a lot of value placed on grammar and proper word usage

1/6/2008 1:20:39 PM

Quote :

"London > Rome > Constantinople > Rome > Athens"

Pretty good list, I would put Paris and Madrid between London and Rome, and Babylon, Memphis (Egypt) and finally Sumer after Athens.

1/6/2008 1:49:48 PM

yeah and that's just talking about the Western world

1/6/2008 1:51:45 PM

Quote :

"i'm living upper east side right now...NY is definitely not smarter than Raleigh, not even sure how you can quantify a sweeping generalization like that though"

hahah

This is an Amsterdam thread, b.

Get the fuck out of here with your rational thinking, g.

1/6/2008 1:53:08 PM

he can't even qualify the statement

much less quantify

you see, there, how I ranked things in terms of primacy?
positivism suggests that quantification is greater proof than qualification

1/6/2008 1:54:09 PM

You so smart snewf.


ps Are you still on the radio?

1/6/2008 2:01:51 PM

not over the winter break but I'll start back during the semester

1/6/2008 2:02:36 PM

I should be on NPR breaking atoms for you motherfuckers. You guys that are being negative are being small minded.

1/6/2008 2:05:59 PM

You're trying to hard now, b.


Get our attention back slowly, g.

1/6/2008 2:09:11 PM

look I lived in NY for a minute
Scarsdale, not the city

my gf lived in Manhattan for a bit
I've been to the city many times and I would like to move there

it is quite nice but it is not the center of the universe
its not even the center of the human world

1/6/2008 2:13:04 PM

Quote :

"visualise growing up in the middle of this ! definitely, you'd be alot sharper more sophisticated person than growing up near 440 or some rural county in NC or anywhere else in america for that matter."

You made a thread about how sophisticated and intelligent northerners are compared to southerners ... and you can't even spell "visualize"?

1/6/2008 2:15:15 PM

city mouse, country mouse

1/6/2008 2:16:11 PM

Quote :

"and you can't even spell "visualize"?"

let me ask you this. is it pronounced differently. no it fucking isn't. perhaps i was my education at Murry Bergtraum High, which damn near trumps NC STATE in terms of teaching you about the world.

1/6/2008 2:38:29 PM

Quote :

"and you can't even spell "visualize"?"

let me ask you this. is it pronounced differently? no it fucking isn't. perhaps it was my education at Murry Bergtraum High, which damn near trumps NC STATE in terms of teaching you about the world.

[Edited on January 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM. Reason : mf.]

1/6/2008 2:39:21 PM

you're mexican, arent you

1/6/2008 2:41:04 PM

dude. I'm fucking American, B.

1/6/2008 2:43:32 PM

NC State has a problem with diversity, for sure

1/6/2008 2:46:10 PM

you know, Snewf:

the thing is i don't think people understand what "diversity" is and it's benefit. i mean this was what the Supreme Court really intended . . . i think they understood where we need to be as a country to compete. it's just that rural America is behind like 40 yrs . . . and smaller metro areas still don't get it yet. that's probably the basis of all the push back ...

I truely understand you guy's point, but i'm just saying BE MORE OPEN-MINDED.

1/6/2008 2:49:39 PM

Tokyo is so much better and so much more important world-wide than what NYC is

1/6/2008 2:51:06 PM

the idea of "the best" is ridiculous

the best under what circumstances?

1/6/2008 2:52:12 PM

how can a city right beside New Jersey be considered appealing?

As it was so eloquently stated in "25th Hour",

"Fuck me, fuck you, fuck this whole city and everyone in it. Fuck the panhandlers, grubbing for money, and smiling at me behind my back. Fuck the squeegee men dirtying up the clean windshield of my car. Get a fucking job! Fuck the Sikhs and the Pakistanis bombing down the avenues in decrepit cabs, curry steaming out their pores, stinking up my day. Terrorists in fucking training. SLOW THE FUCK DOWN! Fuck the Chelsea boys with their waxed chests and pumped up biceps. Going down on each other in my parks and on my piers, jingling their dicks on my Channel 35. Fuck the Korean grocers with their pyramids of overpriced fruit and their tulips and roses wrapped in plastic. Ten years in the country, still no speaky English? Fuck the Russians in Brighton Beach. Mobster thugs sitting in cafés, sipping tea in little glasses, sugar cubes between their teeth. Wheelin' and dealin' and schemin'. Go back where you fucking came from! Fuck the black-hatted Chassidim, strolling up and down 47th street in their dirty gabardine with their dandruff. Selling South African apartheid diamonds! Fuck the Wall Street brokers. Self-styled masters of the universe. Michael Douglas, Gordon Gekko wannabe mother fuckers, figuring out new ways to rob hard working people blind. Send those Enron assholes to jail for FUCKING LIFE! You think Bush and Cheney didn't know about that shit? Give me a fucking break! Tyco! Worldcom! Fuck the Puerto Ricans. 20 to a car, swelling up the welfare rolls, worst fuckin' parade in the city. And don't even get me started on the Dom-in-i-cans, 'cause they make the Puerto Ricans look good. Fuck the Bensonhurst Italians with their pomaded hair, their nylon warm-up suits, their St. Anthony medallions, swinging their, Jason Giambi, Louisville slugger, baseball bats, trying to audition for the Sopranos. Fuck the Upper East Side wives with their Hermes scarves and their fifty-dollar Balducci artichokes. Overfed faces getting pulled and lifted and stretched, all taut and shiny. You're not fooling anybody, sweetheart! Fuck the uptown brothers. They never pass the ball, they don't want to play defense, they take five steps on every lay-up to the hoop. And then they want to turn around and blame everything on the white man. Slavery ended one hundred and thirty seven years ago. Move the fuck on! Fuck the corrupt cops with their anus violating plungers and their 41 shots, standing behind a blue wall of silence. You betray our trust! Fuck the priests who put their hands down some innocent child's pants. Fuck the church that protects them, delivering us into evil. And while you're at it, fuck JC! He got off easy! A day on the cross, a weekend in hell, and all the hallelujahs of the legioned angels for eternity! Try seven years in fuckin' Otisville, J! Fuck Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and backward-ass, cave-dwelling, fundamentalist assholes everywhere. On the names of innocent thousands murdered, I pray you spend the rest of eternity with your seventy-two whores roasting in a jet-fuel fire in hell. You towel headed camel jockeys can kiss my royal Irish ass! Fuck Jacob Elinsky, whining malcontent. Fuck Francis Xavier Slaughtery my best friend, judging me while he stares at my girlfriend's ass. Fuck Naturelle Riviera, I gave her my trust and she stabbed me in the back, sold me up the river, fucking bitch. Fuck my father with his endless grief, standing behind that bar sipping on club sodas, selling whisky to firemen, cheering the Bronx bombers. Fuck this whole city and everyone in it. From the row-houses of Astoria to the penthouses on Park Avenue, from the projects in the Bronx to the lofts in Soho. From the tenements in Alphabet City to the brownstones in Park slope to the split-levels in Staten Island. Let an earthquake crumble it, let the fires rage, let it burn to fucking ash and then let the waters rise and submerge this whole rat-infested place."

1/6/2008 2:57:38 PM

Quote :

"let me ask you this. is it pronounced differently? no it fucking isn't."

so Murry Bergtraum High taught you that it was okay to spell words however you like, as long as they are pronounced the same?

1/6/2008 2:57:41 PM

^ dude. i'm my own man. i can spell sh!t as incorrectly as possible. it's my language and that's the message I choose to convey. i'm in a NY STATE OF MIND. that means fuck everyone else. i'm an artist first and how i communicate is my art. that's my realisation.

1/6/2008 3:01:13 PM

realization

1/6/2008 3:21:34 PM

Quote :

"As it was so eloquently stated in "25th Hour", "Fuck me, fuck you, fuck this whole city and everyone in it. Fuck the panhandlers, grubbing for money, and smiling at me behind my back. Fuck the squeegee men dirtying up the clean windshield of my car. Get a fucking job! Fuck the Sikhs and the Pakistanis bombing down the avenues in decrepit cabs, curry steaming out their pores, stinking up my day. Terrorists in fucking training. SLOW THE FUCK DOWN! Fuck the Chelsea boys with their waxed chests and pumped up biceps. Going down on each other in my parks and on my piers, jingling their dicks on my Channel 35. Fuck the Korean grocers with their pyramids of overpriced fruit and their tulips and roses wrapped in plastic. Ten years in the country, still no speaky English? Fuck the Russians in Brighton Beach. Mobster thugs sitting in cafés, sipping tea in little glasses, sugar cubes between their teeth. Wheelin' and dealin' and schemin'. Go back where you fucking came from! Fuck the black-hatted Chassidim, strolling up and down 47th street in their dirty gabardine with their dandruff. Selling South African apartheid diamonds! Fuck the Wall Street brokers. Self-styled masters of the universe. Michael Douglas, Gordon Gekko wannabe mother fuckers, figuring out new ways to rob hard working people blind. Send those Enron assholes to jail for FUCKING LIFE! You think Bush and Cheney didn't know about that shit? Give me a fucking break! Tyco! Worldcom! Fuck the Puerto Ricans. 20 to a car, swelling up the welfare rolls, worst fuckin' parade in the city. And don't even get me started on the Dom-in-i-cans, 'cause they make the Puerto Ricans look good. Fuck the Bensonhurst Italians with their pomaded hair, their nylon warm-up suits, their St. Anthony medallions, swinging their, Jason Giambi, Louisville slugger, baseball bats, trying to audition for the Sopranos. Fuck the Upper East Side wives with their Hermes scarves and their fifty-dollar Balducci artichokes. Overfed faces getting pulled and lifted and stretched, all taut and shiny. You're not fooling anybody, sweetheart! Fuck the uptown brothers. They never pass the ball, they don't want to play defense, they take five steps on every lay-up to the hoop. And then they want to turn around and blame everything on the white man. Slavery ended one hundred and thirty seven years ago. Move the fuck on! Fuck the corrupt cops with their anus violating plungers and their 41 shots, standing behind a blue wall of silence. You betray our trust! Fuck the priests who put their hands down some innocent child's pants. Fuck the church that protects them, delivering us into evil. And while you're at it, fuck JC! He got off easy! A day on the cross, a weekend in hell, and all the hallelujahs of the legioned angels for eternity! Try seven years in fuckin' Otisville, J! Fuck Osama Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, and backward-ass, cave-dwelling, fundamentalist assholes everywhere. On the names of innocent thousands murdered, I pray you spend the rest of eternity with your seventy-two whores roasting in a jet-fuel fire in hell. You towel headed camel jockeys can kiss my royal Irish ass! Fuck Jacob Elinsky, whining malcontent. Fuck Francis Xavier Slaughtery my best friend, judging me while he stares at my girlfriend's ass. Fuck Naturelle Riviera, I gave her my trust and she stabbed me in the back, sold me up the river, fucking bitch. Fuck my father with his endless grief, standing behind that bar sipping on club sodas, selling whisky to firemen, cheering the Bronx bombers. Fuck this whole city and everyone in it. From the row-houses of Astoria to the penthouses on Park Avenue, from the projects in the Bronx to the lofts in Soho. From the tenements in Alphabet City to the brownstones in Park slope to the split-levels in Staten Island. Let an earthquake crumble it, let the fires rage, let it burn to fucking ash and then let the waters rise and submerge this whole rat-infested place.""

all this is true. the irish, the brother uptown don't ever pass the fucking ball, handball is hot, it's all true. but that's why I love it. you gotta love it.

1/6/2008 3:26:28 PM

i dont have to love that shit

1/6/2008 3:27:19 PM

2006 Graduation Rates of top 50 metropolitan regions in US. Not saying graduation rate implies intelligence, but I know for damn sure it is not an inverse relationship.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-06-20-dropout-rates_x.htm#grad

1/6/2008 3:28:09 PM

^so much for Amsterdam's statement about people living in the city being smarter:

38.5% Baltimore City, Md.
81.5% Montgomery County, Md.
81.9% Baltimore County, Md.

1/7/2008 7:37:02 PM

I go to a doc in the lower east side and let me just say that if he wasn't there I'd say that manhattan and long islands could both sink and the world would be a better place.

1/7/2008 7:45:47 PM

Wake County School System has the second best graduation rate in the USA Today Study

1/7/2008 8:06:54 PM

1/7/2008 8:18:45 PM

^well, it can't all be perfect

1/7/2008 8:19:24 PM

new york is a shitty place for a kid to grow up though. raleigh ftw in that category

i wish i was from new york because there is no place as exciting like it on earth but its not because the people are special. the people are just some of everybody from everywhere. The city makes the people. The people don't make the city.

Paris is an old shithole and no city is as dynamic as NYC. NYC#1

1/7/2008 8:37:53 PM

^ agreed. but growing in a place so extremely sh!tty and challenging builds character. and that's what NYC is all about. it's about enjoying misery and making it chick. i think Woody Allen depicts a great aspect of NYC lifestyle.

1/7/2008 10:44:43 PM

i didn't read this whole thread but has anyone pointed out that a lot of people living in NC (esp Cary, RTP area) moved down from the northeast? i think if we are going to hate on a state for being stupid and uncultured we should probably sneak down to south carolina or even farther south to the heart of the bible belt.

1/7/2008 10:50:52 PM