Quote :

"Believing that it should have an LSD and finding it laughable that it doesn't are two different things. One is a rational opinion, the other is a moronic one."

Fair enough. Maybe if they had charged a little more they would add it.

11/27/2007 11:21:28 PM

there are people who buy a 325

then there are people who buy an M3

me (and quinn)






i buy a civic

11/27/2007 11:25:57 PM

D15B8 OWNS

11/27/2007 11:26:47 PM

They do charge more for an LSD.

15,000$ more to be exact.

11/28/2007 12:25:48 AM

im sure i could buy 19 civics with $15,000

11/28/2007 12:26:57 AM

12 Vespas.

11/28/2007 12:37:14 AM

So one could argue that LSD leads to a driving experience that's not quite as "pure", as both Dr. Porsche and Colin Chapman (of lotus fame) argued, an open diff car handles better. Some of the cars widely considered as greatest handling did not come with LSDs stock, such as Lotus Elise, Noble M12, 944 Turbo, current 911... There are many others. Of those 4, all but the Noble had it as an option. This isn't your trailer-mate's boyfriend's Trans Am, not all cars are meant for burnouts.

PS: LSD (two way/non torsen) increases understeer for the un initiated.
Ahmet

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 2:25 AM. Reason : who knew...]

11/28/2007 2:22:20 AM

I mean, other than monkeying around on the street, only cars that are not stiff enough seem to benefit from an LSD on track. I didn't get any inside wheel spin on a sport suspension 911 (996), or my 540i sport. But a stock 944 turbo (with 100 more ft lbs) gets boat loads of it.

For me personally, I do too much monkeying around to not want an LSD, but a requirement for good handling it is not.
Ahmet

11/28/2007 2:33:47 AM

15k sounds like a steal

11/28/2007 8:07:29 AM

listen, i need to lay down my stripes

11/28/2007 8:26:40 AM

When i was looking at loti elise's i could have sworn it was an option to add an LSD. Maybe I was dreaming ( i was looking at cars i cant afford, highly probable).

11/28/2007 8:33:00 AM

i do believe it is an option, or at least on the newer ones.

unless its like $500 upgrade... its not worth it from the dealer, and there is no way its $500.

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

11/28/2007 8:55:50 AM

I made a mistakey typo, the Noble is the one that didn't get it. I was sleep deprived then, and haven't slept since so best to ignore me for a while here...
Ahmet

11/28/2007 10:46:00 AM

I sure as hell can use an LSD when autoxing the GS-R, 30 ft of spinning the inside tire coming off a turn ain't good for times

11/28/2007 1:30:06 PM

Well, it's FWD... The Hypre-R's (excellent) LSD earns it's keep on track, that's for sure.

With FWD you've got bad weight distribution, wrong wheels driven, torque steer... so on. LSD's affects on handling is hardly high on the list...
Ahmet -->Resident FWD hater.

11/28/2007 1:55:46 PM

yeah, its def. a tool you need if you are an avid autoXer/tracker

11/28/2007 2:19:57 PM

Quote :

"I sure as hell can use an LSD when autoxing the GS-R, 30 ft of spinning the inside tire coming off a turn ain't good for times"

Same here. My brother has the exact same car with the same suspension as my car, but I can rape him in autocross due to his excessive wheelspin (his lack of LSD). That might also be a driver thing not FWD either.

[Edited on November 28, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : s]

11/28/2007 3:01:55 PM

I fucking knew it! New Car & Driver has this Hyundai coupe in the issue.

Curb weight.....3500 fucking pounds.

freaking shameful, but what you expect for the price I guess.

12/5/2007 1:54:54 PM

The price?

Its more expensive to make heavier cars dude.

You should blame your countrymen and their insistence on big motors and big features.

12/5/2007 2:36:12 PM

lol you silly gooses.


its too good to be true to come out with a 300hp car for $26K that would compete on the market.

its decent enough that it will compete against the stand.

if you expected 2500lb (or below) car. then yeah, thats a different story.

not from a company like hyundai. let them take it one step at a time.

next thing you know they will design a car to compete with the all mighty civic. and that will be the end of the world

12/5/2007 2:43:13 PM

Dude I'm sorry but reading anything you write is like trying to translate the sign language of an Ape.

12/5/2007 3:22:24 PM

lolers
i know

im just saying.
what were you (not you) expecting from hyundai

[Edited on December 5, 2007 at 3:31 PM. Reason : oh, i see, its suppose to be "compete with the stang, not stand". ]

12/5/2007 3:30:34 PM

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071205.005/hyundai-genesis-revealed-in-korea
http://www.leftlanenews.com/hyundai-genesis.html

Quote :

"Hyun-Soon Lee, head of Hyundai research and development, recently told executives that the company's new 4.6-liter V8 would be massaged to 380 horsepower in the company's flagship, but the production figure will actually be 375. The Tau engine will shift through a six-speed automatic transmission. Hyundai also revealed that its 3.3L and 3.8L V6 engines will be available in the Genesis sedan, but failed to release and performance numbers or available transmissions. "

Wow, 4.6 litre V8 producing 380 hp?

Lexus LS 460: 4.6 litre V8 producing 380 hp as well.

Damn!


They need to put that engine in the new Tiburon coupe... it would slaughter cars twice its price!









[Edited on December 5, 2007 at 5:56 PM. Reason : ]

12/5/2007 5:56:10 PM

Quote :

"if you expected 2500lb (or below) car. then yeah, thats a different story. "

I don't think such a car will be made going forward. Even this years mx5 is near that. I cant think of a car that weighs less than an mx5 that could be considered sporty. The base mx5 doesn't even have a spare tire or a powered roof.



BUT QUINN WHAT ABOUT THE ATOM AND THE ELISE!!one!11

12/5/2007 6:37:37 PM

yeah, im saying that everyone is expecting sooo much.

anywhoooo... i like the shell. not so much what it can do.

i agree, put a supra motor in it, call it a day

12/5/2007 8:51:38 PM

^^Not really. An MX-5 is already well over 2500lbs.

^stop with that shit. its not asking too much for a 3000lb coupe

Quote :

"Its more expensive to make heavier cars dude."

Oh really??! Last time I checked iron was a lot cheaper and heavier than aluminum, titanium, magnesium, etc Not to mention good engineering can save weight (but that costs more money too)

[Edited on December 6, 2007 at 1:13 AM. Reason : k]

12/6/2007 1:12:49 AM

Scion tc!!1

Civic Si!


need rwd ? you're boned

12/6/2007 8:31:30 AM

a company like hyundai isnt going to make a 3000lb 300hp RWD car off the bat

12/6/2007 8:35:45 AM

Quote :

"Scion tc!!1 Civic Si! need rwd ? you're boned"

wtf does that mean? And yes, RWD is a requirement for my next car.

12/6/2007 1:27:16 PM

coupe < 3000 lbs

sorry to be so vague

12/6/2007 6:21:55 PM

quinn. i think we need to put 300hp in your hatch. gut it and make it < 2000 lbs

12/6/2007 6:23:25 PM

its 2000 lbs now dude

WITH ME IN IT

12/6/2007 6:26:01 PM

right at 2K ehh..

ok well... lets see.....

we can go for 1500 lbs

12/6/2007 6:28:20 PM

if youre not joking im in

no more d15b8 though :-0

12/6/2007 6:29:01 PM

bttt per request

3/16/2008 8:43:17 PM

Hyundai Genesis Coupe Photos Leaked

Quote :

"With a rear wheel drive platform and the entry level engine as a 2.0 liter turbo producing 215hp, the Genesis Coupe is off to a great start. But Hyundai is out for blood and takes it a bit further with a 3.8 liter V6 making approximately 300hp."

Wow, the entry-level model is 215 hp, whereas the top model of the Tiburon was 170 someting hp. I will probably be up for this if I can get it for about $20,000 dollar bucks.

My only qualm about the styling: At the front, the left+right ends of the front lip under the top grille should extend downward to break the bottom ONE LONG ASS grille into 3 parts (as in any other car). That ONE LONG ASS GRILLE looks awkward.














Finally, it can be said:

Hyundai, you are there. GG.

3/16/2008 9:00:51 PM

Rockin out that G coupe styling.

3/16/2008 9:59:54 PM

thanks for bumping this thread, it reminds me how much i love baonest

no homo

3/17/2008 4:41:13 PM

I am really liking this... some new pics:

3/17/2008 4:49:00 PM

meh, looks just like Solara/G6/Altima coupe

3/17/2008 5:02:59 PM

i dont want to read. how much did this car end up weighing?

3/17/2008 6:00:14 PM

Its projected anywhere from 3,275lb (base curb weight) to 3,500lb (fully loaded v6)

3/17/2008 7:09:32 PM

Official numbers:

310 hp 3.8 litre V6
223 hp 2.0 litre I4 Turbo



Hyundai planning lightweight Genesis coupe, targa model to follow

Quote :

"more variants are planned for the future, including a targa model sporting a retractable glass roof (ala Porsche 911 Targa), a convertible, and, more compelling, a lightweight version only offered with the 2.0-liter, turbocharged four-cylinder."

New York 2008: Hyundai Genesis Coupe burning rubber [w/VIDEO]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/19/new-york-2008-hyundai-genesis-coupe-burning-rubber-w-video/

Click above for video, which shows:

Quote :

"Hyundai pulled out all the stops at its press conference, including hiring a couple of Hollywood's finest female stunt drivers to unveil what is perhaps its most exciting vehicle ever. Above is video of an impressive array of spin-outs, burnouts and power slides in V6 (Silver) and turbo-four (Red) flavors. This thing is completely hot."

Another video: (official footage of still shots and driving footage)

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/20/video-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-b-roll/


[Edited on March 21, 2008 at 10:04 AM. Reason : ]

3/21/2008 9:49:24 AM

thats a nice video and all, not really, but that fact that they are driving on ice doesnt help.

i could do that in my civic.

3/21/2008 10:07:46 AM

Dude I'm not going to lie, that actually looks pretty hot.

I hope it puts pressure on Honda/Toyota to stop releasing shitstain fwd coupes.

3/21/2008 10:10:33 AM

^ exactly.

the genesis coupe will provide the most performance per dollar on this planet.

and it looks hot to boot.

3/21/2008 10:36:51 AM

Honda and Toyota will make a rwd coupe the same time ford stops making the F series truck.

Ring Ring Reality is calling

3/21/2008 6:58:40 PM

i saw those female drivers and thought, they drive like crap,

one looks as though she's on a cell phone.

3/21/2008 8:47:29 PM

yeah. they could have gotten much better drivers.

the way they tap the brakes during the runs.

3/21/2008 9:58:57 PM

Dear BMW

Hyundia now has better brakes then you as well.

Thnx

-engin

3/22/2008 4:29:11 AM