it works off of first names, not last names. Daniel Smith would have a son named Erik Danielsson and a daughter named Emily Danielsdattir.

7/12/2007 12:34:27 PM

LOL @ DANIELSDATTIR


All nordic and shit.

7/12/2007 12:41:34 PM

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"it works off of first names, not last names. Daniel Smith would have a son named Erik Danielsson and a daughter named Emily Danielsdattir."

EXACTLY.

7/12/2007 12:47:47 PM

totally by coincidence, i opened up a copy of spin just now to discover that Björk's last name is Guðmundsdóttir

7/12/2007 12:51:34 PM

i don't want my wife to take my last name

7/12/2007 12:53:19 PM

It would be a deal breaker. Can't have a woman thinking she calls the shots.

7/12/2007 12:57:50 PM

even though, in almost every case, she absolutely DOES call the shots. The whole reason for male domination is because men are so angry that women actually DO control them.

7/12/2007 1:03:51 PM

that's what happens when you let the penis do all the thinkin'

7/12/2007 1:05:16 PM

LISTEN

I am the master of my household. I make all the rules and call all the shots.





...when she's not home.

7/12/2007 1:06:26 PM

^^Reminds me of a time, many moons ago, my mother of all people (you meet her and you'd NEVER think it) told me, "you're thinking with the wrong head."

I had to climb up outta my shoes and exit stage left...quickly.

[Edited on July 12, 2007 at 1:08 PM. Reason : redirect, please.]

7/12/2007 1:08:08 PM

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"and i never thought twice about it, even though for the rest of my life people will be asking me "how do you pronouce your last name?""

I plan on taking his last name so I can (hopefully) stop having people ask me about mine

7/12/2007 1:21:30 PM

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"will you or have you taken your future husbands last name"

I'm taking his because it's easier to spell and pronounce, and is in the middle of the alphabet (I hated being at the end of the line in elementary school). It's a pretty uncommon last name, and I really like it.

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"would you be offended if your future wife didn't want to take your last name?"

He said he would be, but that isn't reason enough to make me take it.

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"i will keep my current last name and drop my middle name"

What I will do is what my mother did when she got married: first/maiden/new

[Edited on July 12, 2007 at 1:31 PM. Reason : CWM will be my new initials, and my current ones are CMW]

7/12/2007 1:29:06 PM

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"I plan on taking his last name so I can (hopefully) stop having people ask me about mine "

Same here. I kind of plan on keeping my middle name and dropping my current last name. Though I'm not even engaged or anything, so I have pleanty of time to think, haha.

7/12/2007 1:51:09 PM

I already go by my first and middle name so I have to keep em. I'm dropping my maiden name and then using my maiden name as a child's middle name later on.

7/12/2007 1:54:03 PM

I wouldn't have been upset if my wife had not wanted to take my name, but she did so it was never really discussed. She also kept her middle and maiden name as well so she has four names now. We both had boring last names to begin with so there was no worries about that.

7/12/2007 2:17:59 PM

We talked about making up a new last name. I was rooting for Pepper, so she would eventually be Doctor Pepper.


I think that might have killed the idea.

7/12/2007 2:38:16 PM

Wife took my last name and it was totally her choice. I let her make the decision and honestly it didn't matter to me either way. She kept her middle name and dropped her maiden name.

What was weird is that when she was filling out the paper work she wanted to know if she could combine her first and middle into her first name, change her middle to maiden, and take my last. They said no, she could only change her middle name to her maiden or keep it the same.

7/12/2007 3:18:26 PM

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"Yes, but if you were applying for a job or a grant, the company/agency would know you changed your name because you would have all your publications listed. And If an author lists here name specifically as Hillary Rodham Clinton, you would know that you may also find her information under Hillary Rodham. That is why I said professional women usually list their name as old name with the new name on the end. That denotes that information may also be under the first two names. I just don't get it. Am I missing something?"

yes, you're missing something

when a publication is referenced, the last name and first (maybe middle) initials are all that are listed (at least in the sciences) -- there's no way to cross reference if that last name changes in most databases, even if the maiden name becomes the middle name

in your example, if a journal article referenced something published by miss rodham that would listed as h.d. rodham -- but if you wanted to go read other articles published by the same person after she was married you would need to search for h.r. clinton, impossible to know that

so it's common for women once they've published under their maiden name, to keep that name (or at least continue to publish under it) even after they've married

7/12/2007 3:33:03 PM

^^ That's strange they wouldn't let her do that. I have a friend who did that exact thing. Was she going to hyphen her first name?

[Edited on July 12, 2007 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ^]

7/12/2007 3:34:36 PM

wouldn't care at all

though

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"I'd rather she keep her name than hyphenate. "

7/12/2007 3:50:10 PM

I took my husband's last name, but it was completely my decision. My maiden name was boring and at the end of the alphabet while his was unique and in the middle. I also kept my middle name, since the name I go by is a shortened version of my middle name (which makes me think my parents just wanted to punish their children, because my brother has the exact same shortened middle name scenario as I do).

7/12/2007 3:57:07 PM

I've sadly had a serious conversation about this (hyphenating). This is the product of what happens when 4 or 5 girls in serious relationships get together and talk. I just kind of laughed and said, "we'll talk about it when time comes--i don't have an opinion at this time." I later called one of her freinds' bf and told him what was about to happen.

7/12/2007 4:21:39 PM

In Russia as well, for example:

Khasanova: daughter's last name
Khasanov: son's last name

Gorbachev
Gorbacheva

etc.

7/12/2007 5:29:37 PM

why should I keep my name at all?

If I marry my boyfriend, I will be Mrs. Benjamin L. Pahl. Why change tradition?

7/12/2007 7:58:29 PM

i didn't think about that before - i guess you could never correctly be addressed as mr. and mrs. guy's name - i'm glad i didn't have to put up with this crap

7/12/2007 8:04:04 PM

wouldn't bother me that much since I sure as hell am not taking hers or hyphenating

7/12/2007 8:20:44 PM

OmarBadu said:

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"guys with hyphens get laughed at by other men "

Wow. What kind of people do you hang out with?

But seriously, you're talking (like usual) out of your ass. I have a hyphenated last name and it has nothing to do with a wife keeping her name.

7/12/2007 8:23:50 PM

they don't laugh at you to your face...and kids that are doomed by parents can't really help it - but yeah the guy that gets convinced to do this - other guys are laughing

7/12/2007 8:25:53 PM

haha... "doomed"? I think you're placing a little too much importance on a name. Well, unless you have a last name like Rockefeller or Hitler...

7/12/2007 8:33:58 PM

what would you do if you married someone with a hyphenated name and she was crazy enough to want to hyphenate both of your names - i wonder if there are women out there that have hyphenated names that immediately rule you out as a possibility because they want to escape the hyphen

7/12/2007 8:37:00 PM

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"When a woman marries a man, her blood, lineage, ancestors, parents, etc. (and in interracial cases, ethnicity, race, etc) don't magically change. That's my take on it. If women want to voluntarily change their name out of devotion/love/whatever without being asked, that's up to them. But they should never be asked, or even hinted towards that. Again, that's my take on it. "

I'm in complete agreement with that.

That being said, I don't know what I'll do. I was pretty adamant about hyphenation and now I'm leaning towards either keeping my last name or taking his. I can't see myself with a guy who would care about something like that. In any case, it's most likely going to be a long while before I have to worry about it.

7/12/2007 8:53:20 PM

^^first scenario: jesus christ. second scenario: in that case, i would consider my last name as an automatic screening for women i wouldnt want to marry

7/12/2007 9:00:07 PM

Oh, what choices: our father's name, or our husband's?

7/12/2007 10:44:03 PM

I've brought this up with my girlfriend and she mentioned that she might have a hard time parting with her name. Her dad had three daughters and no sons. She's the baby and she's watched her first two sisters get married and not bring the name with them.

She's wants the name to live on through the kids and whatever, but knowing kids, they wouldn't pass it on after that, so it's all kinda pointless to me.

But long story short, there will always be some kind of circumstance that might make taking a certain person's name a little tough.

7/12/2007 11:19:04 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with her taking my name as long as the kids do. It just makes keeping track of family trees and stuff easier, ya know?

7/12/2007 11:23:07 PM

I would not want my wife to do anything of this level if she doesn't want to do it. But if she doesn't take my name, I won't marry her. This has already been firmly established in my current relationship.

Concerning hyphens, there is another problem that may not have been considered here. Having filed many documents in my past jobs, I found that hyphenated names--particularly newly hyphenated names--caused major problems for women.

For example, let's use Hillary Rodham Clinton. If she had chosen to hyphenate her name, her documents would have been filed under R instead of C. See? All it takes is for one person to forget to add the hyphen on a form or not notice it and your paperwork is misfiled or incorrectly entered into some database.

Ladies, take the guys' names or not--I don't care. But DO NOT hyphenate your name--just trust me on this one.

7/12/2007 11:44:05 PM

I would be offended

7/13/2007 12:36:08 AM

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"What was weird is that when she was filling out the paper work she wanted to know if she could combine her first and middle into her first name, change her middle to maiden, and take my last. They said no, she could only change her middle name to her maiden or keep it the same."

Um, if not, you shoulda lobbied harder. I mean...

http://www.wkyc.com/weblog/optimus/

The blog of the guy who changed his name to OPTIMUS PRIME

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/transformers/real-life-optimus-prime-challenges-megatron-to-epic-battle-275922.php

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"You may remember these two gentlemen, as we recently covered them in the run-up to the Transformers movie debut. Optimus Prime changed his name to honor his childhood hero, while Jason Burrows took the less drastic step of altering his middle name to Megatron. Now it seems that Optimus has had enough tomfoolery and wants to settle things once and for all:"

I... look... your wife should have been allowed any name she wanted

7/13/2007 1:35:45 AM

my sister has kept her name. with all 4 husbands. i guess it makes sense when you trade them in every couple of years.

7/13/2007 1:39:06 AM

Hell no I ain't giving up my name.

4 reasons:
1) It's Lithuanian, unique, and a ton of family history in it

2) I'm in research, and when I get cool enough to publish my own stuff, it will remain consistent

3) I'm one of 3 girls and a boy, and I don't trust my brother to carry on the name

4) Why would I do something that the man wasn't equally willing to do?

7/13/2007 2:05:12 AM

what if you just flipped a coin

7/13/2007 2:18:17 AM

^^ Whatever.

7/13/2007 2:24:16 AM

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"3) I'm one of 3 girls and a boy, and I don't trust my brother to carry on the name "

If the men usually carry on the name of the family.....why in the world would you expect your future husband to say, "okay honey, your last name is more important than mine, the children can have your last name instead." I think guys would have a lot bigger problem than that rather than you just not taking their last name.

7/13/2007 7:56:49 AM

my girlfriend (of close to 3 years so probably future wife) has already said she won't take my last name. I'm guessing it's due to 1 of 2 reasons. a) I have a long as fuck german last name and she has a nice short english last name. b) she comes from a super rich/semi high maintenance family and they have told her not to. here grandfather was a millionaire, father is worth over a mil, her mom and two of the 3 aunts have doctorates.
i'll be honest, it was an issue for me at first. I had never even thought of a girl not taking my last name before. I got over myself though eventually when I realized that her last name really makes no difference in the relationship or who we are as people.

7/13/2007 8:13:10 AM

My girlfriend wants to take my last name, which is fine by me, but I'll be damned if people refer to her as 'Mrs. Greg Townley.' I think that shit is demeaning and offensive. Like, when people address a couple as Mr. and Mrs. 'husband's first name' 'husband's last name.' It makes my skin crawl because it takes away all autonomous identity the woman had/ has.

7/13/2007 8:16:14 AM

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"I would be offended."

7/13/2007 8:29:04 AM

I would be offended if my wife wanted my last name.

7/13/2007 8:33:50 AM

^why?

7/13/2007 8:39:08 AM

For the same exact reasons people are giving for the opposite.

7/13/2007 8:49:40 AM

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"my sister has kept her name. with all 4 husbands. i guess it makes sense when you trade them in every couple of years. "

no offense but why would someone even consider marrying her after the 2nd one...

7/13/2007 9:30:18 AM