they probably removed it due to inactivity

7/3/2007 12:38:04 PM

i cant believe no one told me they were on it, i guess i never asked. but ive seen a few sites similar and assumed no one was on. no idea how i missed the boat, my e-friends must hate me

im new there and it is great to have so much cool and somewhat rare music

a) at such great quality on the live (soundboard?) stuff // and the encoding in general, really
b) the ratio requirement ensures i get everthing i want in no time, even of stuff without many seeders. cause there are actually seeders!!!1

problem

after i had 1 CD, i left it to seed hoping to get a little ratio buffer to play with. only uploaded 2mb so i have downloaded about 5 or 6 things now, and have only contributed 5mb back. it looked like the ratio enforcers wont come after me for a while, but i still want a buffer to play with so i can actually start downloading more stuff that i really doubt people will want

questions

1--do i need to do anything to reseed the stuff now that the domain has changed? or is the tracker smart enough to know whats up? never got too into reading about torrents before the FAQs (i also have made the changes to the hosts file but im not sure how the actual torrent works liek i said)

2--whats hot now? what should i download and reseed that people will actually want? i know the ratio will eventually be a non-issue, but when it sits at 1% for 2 days then i worry slightly

7/4/2007 2:23:50 AM

You're right, the Ratio enforcers won't come after you until you get 5 GB downloaded, just make sure you seed as much as possible on each of your downloads. And yeah, it wouldn't hurt to download something popular so your ratio might get better when you seed (one of the first albums I downloaded was a Pelle Carlberg album that's only been snatched 17 times, so nobody really wants it and I therefore didn't get much seeding off of it).

1. If you put those IPs in your host file (see page 1), you don't have to reseed from the new site because the IP hosts are listed in there regardless. I reseeded on .cd to make sure it works, anyhow.

2. Go under browse, then click on the down arrow next to the "upped by" title: that way, the list is sorted by the most number of users trying to download a file. You can also sort by # of snatches by using the +. Those two let you see some of the most popular things on the site either at the moment (current downloads) or ever (snatches). I look at my snatches and see what people are downloading most that day (for example, that new Smashing Pumpkins album and the last Peter Bjorn & John album)

OH, AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE CLEVER - you can see all about that and port forwarding stuff in the forums/FAQs.

[Edited on July 4, 2007 at 2:27 PM. Reason : .]

7/4/2007 2:26:37 PM

anyone got any invites?

7/4/2007 2:42:14 PM

the easiest way to keep your ratio up is just make sure you leave everything you download open for a long long time. forever if possible.

I been on the site for a couple months, and I'm still seeding every single thing I've ever downloaded from there.

7/4/2007 3:41:06 PM

gotcha SF, i made the host changes when DC sent me the invite, so i could read all the FAQs

i sorted by leechers like you said, and i actually want that new pumpkins album so i'll try that and a couple other on that list that may interest me. the last thing i want is to have a group of CDs in my rotation that i dont like.

this policing of file ratios reminds me of the old BBS days; although as a sysop of a big board i usually had noratio everywhere in 919!!1 (so l33t). its also sad that ratio is the only way to ensure that the system works... i remember when people would pay for CDs full of shareware just to be able to offer more to get new stuff uploaded, or to encourage donations. on the bbs tangent, it was more expensive to run a bbs in the early 90s than it is to run a pretty big site today... but you see more sites asking for donations than ever before. blah blah

i will read more about being CLEVER, i read every FAQ it offered up at any point within other FAQs (i had 12 pages open like i was on wikipedia), but i dont remember this part.

Ratio: 0.011 Uploaded: 6.80 MB Downloaded: 607.04 MB

7/4/2007 3:58:44 PM

i'm still not sure if i've got it working under the new oink.cd tracker. i've done everything short of redownloading, but no one has leeched from me yet. i'm guessing if you redownload, it'll just be like "hey, you've already got this. here's your torrent file that works." at least, i hope so.

7/4/2007 4:18:08 PM

I hate to say it, but i think this ratio enforcing thing encourages less downloading. people are not as willing to "spend" their download allowance on things they don't absolutely want/need. so what you have is a bunch of seeders (a few different seeds per person) and very few downloaders at any given time...so it's great when you find something you want because you get gangbanged by seeders with the file (so that they may increase their ratio). but on the other hand, 90% of the time people are sitting around just seeding, so they can "afford" to download something big or try new stuff, etc.

classic supply/demand

7/4/2007 4:19:03 PM

Eh, if you're on a fast internet connection, you can leave your torrent program open at all times and never notice that it's eating your bandwidth. Just dl some stuff and leave it open, eventually people will dl what you have, and your ratio goes up. Also, the more you upload, the less each dl'd cd matters. For example, with my ratio at 2.something and over 120gigs seeded, dl'ing even a fairly large amount doesn't really affect it much. And I literally never think about whether or not I can 'afford' to dl something. So basically, your theory doesn't hold once ratios and amount uploaded get fairly high.

Also, uploading a new torrent is probably the best way to get your ratio up, especially if the torrent is on the request list. Just make sure you follow the rules/guides for uploading.

7/4/2007 4:59:40 PM

i went through and changed all my tracker listings to the oink.cd address as opposed to the ip (that i guess was probablly mapped through my hosts file) and now ive actually started to upload a little.

i even did the clever section, but its still really slow, like i'm pulling 800k down and only putting 2k up, i've forwarded everything i can think of, so i'm gonna try to see if putting my server in the DMZ for an hour or 2 will change anything. if that works, then i guess i'm gonna have to find more ports that need to be forwarded.

[Edited on July 4, 2007 at 5:01 PM. Reason : Ratio: 0.008 Uploaded: 7.25 MB Downloaded: 953.05 MB]

7/4/2007 4:59:55 PM

Ratio: 0.052 Uploaded: 49.70 MB Downloaded: 953.06 MB

ive got it working well in the DMZ, and i'm about to put it back inside and see what happens. but all of my 8 uploads have shared at least some. i am happy with the results and unless this changes when i pull back then i think i am fine with ratio. and now i see why you get 14 days / 10gb or whatever

7/4/2007 9:18:44 PM

quick question, whats the best/difference between

v0/vbr/320/192

192 is just normal cd quality right? thats what im used to dealing with. like if you had a choice between all 4, you pick what>?

7/6/2007 6:24:48 PM

V0 and VBR are variable bit rate, they cut out frequencies not used. They're good quality with smaller files. A cd is 320, and 192 is the minimum for 'decent' that oink accepts. V0 is my favorite.

7/6/2007 6:45:52 PM

gotcha, i read up and variable seems to be the smartest... although im sure 192 is just fine

thanks

7/6/2007 7:51:54 PM

I just wrote a script that opens my bittorrent client after 30 minutes of inactivity if it isn't already open

7/7/2007 1:14:59 AM

i was fucking around in WMP and i added a cover to one of the CDs it was showing... then next thing i know, Azureus is saying that about 15 of my torrents have a problem with track one (wrong size)

gonna read up on that, i guess windows resized them? something fucked up, thats for sure, hahaha

i hate azureeussss

7/7/2007 1:56:38 PM

yeah it was the covers. fuck you windows media player. hiding pictures in my shit

7/7/2007 2:14:19 PM

^^use Utorrent. Best by far IMO.

7/7/2007 3:33:56 PM

uTorrent. and V0 is my favorite, the only time I go 320 or FLAC is if I REALLY want the album and that's all that's available or it's an album that I know I'll get really stoned and listen to very loudly on my massive speakers. Otherwise it's V0/VBR/192 alltheway

7/7/2007 11:00:02 PM

uTorrent is pretty slick, but I gotta have my plugins

7/7/2007 11:20:35 PM

my ratio finally started moving today after seeding about 15 things, just broke .3 yay

also can you reseed your torrents that you had in azureus in utorrent easily, i wanna try this utorrent out

[Edited on July 8, 2007 at 7:54 PM. Reason : .]

7/8/2007 7:52:17 PM

thinking about switching from azur to utorrent

7/8/2007 8:40:41 PM

I need to switch to a new client, mine is rather annoying

7/8/2007 8:41:19 PM

what the hell is there to "think" about here guys, it's not like you're considering buying a new fucking car

7/8/2007 11:10:25 PM

yeah, morons

like this decision has pros and cons that warrant some consideration

7/8/2007 11:14:55 PM

I too love utorrent for what it's worth

7/8/2007 11:15:04 PM

There is a way to reseed your torrents if you switch. I forget how though. If no one else knows and I have some free time tm I'll figure it out.

7/8/2007 11:47:18 PM

Quote :

"like this decision has pros and cons that warrant some consideration "

oh please. name one "con" that isn't reversible (as long as you don't fuck it up)

7/8/2007 11:49:53 PM

yeah i like utorrent

100 times better on resources than azur

7/9/2007 2:01:10 AM

ok how the fuck do i reseed my old shit

7/9/2007 2:10:28 AM

Are you guys looking in the forums? They usually have everything you could need. The tutorial section is extremely helpful.

http://oink.cd/forums.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=56642 for example

7/9/2007 2:12:45 AM

ok i got it


had some new torrents in the wrong directory

7/9/2007 2:19:02 AM

Quote :

"name one "con" that isn't reversible"

What's one con that isn't reversible if you buy a new car that turns out to me a lemon?

Just about everything in life is reversible to some degree, but that doesn't mean some thought prior to making a decision makes you a shilly-shally milquetoast

7/9/2007 10:13:34 AM

^ again, we are NOT talking about buying a car here...just downloading and installing a piece of widely used and accepted software. i don't know why you have your panties in a wad over this

7/9/2007 10:37:13 AM

Quote :

"a shilly-shally milquetoast"

hahaha, I like your turn of phrase

7/9/2007 1:42:13 PM

BEST SEEDING DAY EVER

7/10/2007 10:34:20 PM

Quote :

"The tracker has detected that you are using an outdated verson of uTorrent. We're seeing this from ip address xxx using port 34885. If this isn't you, you need to change your passkey immediately. Otherwise you need to update to the latest stable version of uTorrent."

turned on the uploadmaster 3000 before i left a while ago, it asked me to upgrade when i turned on utorrent.... assumedly wouldnt ask me to do so if it werent a stable/nonbeta release. so i did

had this email when i got home. im assuming it was generated in the 3 minutes i didnt have the new client (based on time)

the link they sent to in the forums was the same one i went to when i first started. i'm on the correct version ("versions 1.4 - 1.6.1 and 1.7.1 only" -- now 1.7.1/3360 specifically)

just dont wanna get in trouble

7/20/2007 7:08:58 PM

it would be nifty if someone could give me one of those invite thingamajigs

7/20/2007 7:13:23 PM

SEEMS LIKE you can only get em through uploading or paying.. so you know my stance on that shit. i might have one in a couple more weekends.

7/20/2007 7:15:02 PM

ahh, I see

well, we'll see how that goes

7/20/2007 7:16:44 PM

i was just reading around trying to find the magic upload ratio number that would give me an invitation. i'll let you know when i get one, though. i donate quite a bit of bandwidth to the process so i should be special soon

7/20/2007 7:31:22 PM

I still have some invites, pm me your email address if you need one.

7/20/2007 9:48:23 PM

Quote :

"i was just reading around trying to find the magic upload ratio number that would give me an invitation"

reading is so hard

Quote :

"Where are my invites? Regular users start with no invites. Donors get 2 invitations for their initial donation only. When users are promoted to Power User+ they receive four invitations to use as they see fit. As detailed below, Power User+ get two additional invites per month. If you have any invites, you should be able to see a link at the top right corner of the page with the number of invites left."

Quote :

"Though you are not required to upload more than the limits given above, there are many benefits to uploading much more and becoming a Power User+ (upload at least 10GB, ratio at least 1.05, member at least 2 weeks):"

7/20/2007 11:17:06 PM

I may have some invites available

if you want one, pm me:

your email address
why I should give you one
links to other torrents sites where you maintain a good ratio
etc

9/16/2007 1:56:32 PM

i got an invite the other day. it's stupidfast.

9/16/2007 2:04:27 PM

^^

9/29/2007 2:28:26 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSL2315584520071023?feedType=RSS&feedName=internetNews&rpc=22&sp=true

10/23/2007 8:37:37 AM

seriously, guess i shouldn't have been so careful with my ratio.

10/23/2007 8:50:13 AM

OiNK PWNT

Stay Home

10/23/2007 9:04:15 AM

god dammit


wonder when/where the next one will pop up

10/25/2007 12:27:37 PM