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arghx
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same type of shit you had with the Miata

old car bullshit. fuck it.

[Edited on May 26, 2007 at 8:51 PM. Reason : oh yeah page 2]

5/26/2007 8:51:37 PM

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[Edited on May 26, 2007 at 8:54 PM. Reason : bbdouche]

5/26/2007 8:53:54 PM

BigBlueRam
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if you've got something to say, say it... your constant whining around behind me in threads is getting pretty old.

or, feel free to tell me how the hell a mustang really compares to a built bronco (besides the similar age/maintinance issue) or other off road oriented vehicle. i've personally owned locked cars and locked trucks, and worked on/driven countless others. they don't compare. a truck hides a locker/spool MUCH better than a car, and is just a completely different driving experience all together.

oh, wait... do i need to find you a google link for this? magazine picture?

[Edited on May 26, 2007 at 9:21 PM. Reason : gtfo, quit trolling me...]

5/26/2007 9:13:38 PM

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i'm 100% sure I didn't compare them, only the type of project he'd be undertaking (30+ yr old vehicle)

as to the locker, i've wrenched 4x4's too and a locked axle is a locked axle

now to your attitude, eat a dick

5/26/2007 9:43:53 PM

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if i get that big CJ, i have a feeling that the rear lockright might get replaced with an ARB. hell, it already has onboard air. put a set of more highway-friendly gears in it, then when those 40s are worn out, put stock-height springs back on it (keeping the SOA) and slightly smaller tires.

think i might go $5500 on it. MAYBE 6k.

5/26/2007 9:57:15 PM

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Quote :
"oh, wait... do i need to find you a google link for this? magazine picture? "



ftw

5/26/2007 10:28:46 PM

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"exactly how are you comparing a mustang to a bronco, besides them being similar year models?"


you mean apart from mustangs regularly being said to handle like a truck and they both are cheap fords with v8's, frequently 302's, have solid rears and are more often than most other cars optimized for off-road (drag strip is off road) applications to such an extent that they're barely roadable?

5/27/2007 8:11:40 AM

theDuke866
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well, i was high bidder on that CJ with a bid of $4550. I can't imagine he'll sell it for that price, but at least if he drops a really good 2nd chance offer, I'll have first dibs.

5/27/2007 10:43:37 AM

optmusprimer
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mustangs and broncos are both horses

5/27/2007 11:50:29 AM

theDuke866
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well shit, that settles it.

5/27/2007 2:26:24 PM

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Hey Ive had a 66 bronco for about 2 years. Ive always wanted one since I could drive. My parents would never let me have one in my earlier driving days. Mine is about 95% restored some Ive done and some other owners have done. I will say it is not my daily driver. Ive had to spend a lot of money on things like the transmission and now im having a 351W built. They are blast to own. Mine apraised $12,000 but only paided $8500. Its not in perfect shape but it sure turns heads when i drive it. If you decide to buy it you will deff need to learn how to work on it. The best thing is that there are about 5-10 web sites that have every thing you need to rebuild them.
Good luck.

5/27/2007 10:21:41 PM

theDuke866
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i'm capable of normal repairs/installs. doing something like an engine swap is almost certainly beyond my ability (although i've never tried it...i'm sure i'd take forever and go nuts, at best). I suspect I'd have a helluva time doing something like a transmission swap, too (even with a helper kit. without a kit, i'd DEFINITELY be in way over my head).


normal shit that breaks/dies and has to be replaced? generally fine with that. bolt-on stuff? generally fine there. I can work metal with a functional degree of competency, stick/MIG pretty well, and oxy-acetylene/TIG...uhhh, functionally.

I've done bodywork on and painted a motorcycle. Wasn't a pro job, but it beat the hell out of the Krylon touch (until I tried to get too fancy with flake in the clearcoat, got a bad run, and when I sanded it out and re-sprayed, it looked kinda shitty b/c the flake wasn't even).

one of my roommates in WA is a total gearhead, too. Has a Z28 with either an LS6 or LS7 swapped in...i can't remember...i just know he ran into lots of problems with the wiring harness, had to have a custom one built, and it makes an asston of power. Also has a sick FJ-40, minus engine/tranny/t-case. Think he's going SBC/NV4500. He also used to work on engines for a race team...he's pretty savvy, and said he'll help me for beer if I try to tackle anything really significant.

5/27/2007 10:35:25 PM

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if ur looking for a DD i probablly wouldnt go for anything uve shown thus far. with a little work and maybe some engine/tranny/tcase swaping(not necessary by all means) this
http://nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24895
could be nice, make it what u want yet look original i guess

5/27/2007 11:54:45 PM

BigBlueRam
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"as to the locker, i've wrenched 4x4's too and a locked axle is a locked axle"

bullshit. besides differences in types and brands of lockers, tire size, vehicle weight, and wheelbase GREATLY affects the effects of a locker.

5/28/2007 12:20:39 AM

theDuke866
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with a little work and maybe some engine/tranny/tcase swaping, it would be just much like the other trucks I've posted in this thread!

except it would cost a helluva lot more than just buying it with all (or at least most) of the major drivetrain players in place.

5/28/2007 12:40:52 PM

Scuba Steve
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hey Duke, have you seen this?

http://nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24967



asking $4k obo

[Edited on May 28, 2007 at 10:30 PM. Reason : .]

5/28/2007 10:29:28 PM

MattJM321
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Duke I've got an EB, drove it this weekend back home. Favorite vehicle I've ever had and won't ever sell it. Get one.

One day I want to put a powerstroke in it...

5/29/2007 2:14:23 PM

hgtran
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http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/344347069.html FTW

6/4/2007 12:41:28 PM

sumfoo1
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you mean ftl jeeps are $.10 a dozen broncos are awesome
the only other thing in the ball park of an EB is and Fj40 or one of the variations of




ft m-effing W!

6/4/2007 1:36:38 PM

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"One day I want to put a powerstroke in it..."

hell with that, put a 4bt in it.

6/4/2007 3:22:37 PM

theDuke866
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that would fucking rock

6/4/2007 3:30:24 PM

MattJM321
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Gotta keep it all Ford. Don't you have a Ramcharger? You do it.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 6:17 PM. Reason : well International I guess...]

6/4/2007 6:16:39 PM

BigBlueRam
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eh, when it comes to diesels there's not really anything brand specific. i see what you're saying though. cummins have been put in bigger ford chassis from the factory. also, if you want to get technical the powerstroke is a navistar engine not international. navistar owns 100% of international truck and engine. the old 6.9 and 7.3 idi motors were internationals.

the 4bt would really be a much better choice for an eb if you're serious about a diesel swap. it's alot smaller/lighter than a powerstroke, all mechanical (none of the electronic bs, direct injection crap, etc.). you'd have to do some pretty serious body/frame/suspension work to get a powerstroke in.

yeah, i've got an old rc. no way in hell it's worthy of spending that kind of $$ or time on though.

6/4/2007 6:34:41 PM

theDuke866
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/356595981.html

that 4 speed is an SM465

taillights don't work. starter switch is a pushbutton switch. otherwise says it's ready to go...no problems other than dents.

gonna email pictures later. figure i'll offer him $1000 if it checks out.

6/21/2007 7:06:22 PM

BigBlueRam
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replied to your pm.

6/21/2007 7:34:16 PM

sumfoo1
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why do i think scouts are shitty?

i don't know why i love ebs and i love fjs but i fucking can't stand scouts.

6/21/2007 8:17:39 PM

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I fucking love Scouts. Except the fact that they rust so damn badly. It's really hard to find one that hasn't totally rusted out the rear wheel wells/tub.

6/21/2007 8:37:41 PM

theDuke866
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oh, one more thing that's a minus in my book...the rear diff is welded in that Scout.

6/21/2007 8:46:23 PM

zxappeal
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A Detroit Locker would be much, much better for a DD than a welded diff, especially with 35s.

6/21/2007 8:48:08 PM

sumfoo1
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hahaha a welded diff in a dd w/ 35"s

nice

6/21/2007 8:53:58 PM

theDuke866
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^^ yeah, i'd put an automatic locker in the rear (or even a posi in the rear with locker up front). i'd even go for a spool over a welded diff...at least then i know it won't break and trash the whole works.

still, if i can grab it for $1000, i think it'll be more than worth it. that leaves me free to get a fairly nice sportbike and likely another car as a DD...maybe another (tamer than the last) Miata. some sort of inexpensive sports car--lots of curvy mountain roads around to put it to use on.

[Edited on June 21, 2007 at 9:16 PM. Reason : or maybe a V8 Datsun Z-car]

6/21/2007 9:05:37 PM

BigBlueRam
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you won't notice the welded rear much. the tires are big enough, wheelbase long enough, and it weighs enough. doesn't it snow where you are? if so, a welded/spooled rear is actually better for that. it's predictable, where as a mechanical locker can go from unlocked to locked and send you sliding before you know what hit you. you also don't have the associated clicks/bangs that a mechanical gives. not saying a welded/spooled axle is better, it's just not bad and even has some advantages.

6/21/2007 9:10:30 PM

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open has always been recommended for snow though leaving you a "rudder"

6/21/2007 9:15:05 PM

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I've DD'd a spooled rear truck for two years,and never had a problem. been in deep snow, ice, mud, rocks, and pavement. really haven't noticed accelerated tire wear either. its bulletproof and always on. my next rig will get a spool too.

6/21/2007 9:17:16 PM

theDuke866
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^^^ it doesn't snow much on the island (couple of inches once or twice a year, supposedly), but it snows like a mad dog if you go inland. that's a big part of why i want a badass 4x4.

1. wheeling is fun

2. i am a ski bum if there ever was one, and now i'm right by tons of places to go, and don't want the weather to ever stop me (hell, the more it snows, the more i wanna go!)

3. gotta have a backseat for a child seat and so my buddies can ride with me to the ski slopes.

[Edited on June 21, 2007 at 9:20 PM. Reason : just hope it doesn't break and fornicate the whole diff.]

6/21/2007 9:19:21 PM

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^^^if you know how to drive worth a crap and understand what reactions it's going to give, it doesn't make any difference.

^^case in point. his 4 runner is lighter and on a smaller tire, and you can hardly notice the spool.

6/21/2007 9:31:28 PM

theDuke866
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talked to the dude again...he's gonna email me more pictures. hopefully go check it out (and maybe buy it) later today. said the lift is suspension (aftermarket springs), and doesn't believe it has any body lift. also said rust is minor and floorpans are good.

6/22/2007 1:07:09 PM

BigBlueRam
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cool. eyeball the steering good too, especially if it's a spring over.

6/22/2007 1:11:32 PM

theDuke866
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the "aftermarket springs" leads me to believe that it's not spring over. it would prob have ricockulous lift on lift springs AND a spring-over.

what exactly am i looking for on the steering besides no leaks from the box? where am i looking for binds?

6/22/2007 1:28:09 PM

BigBlueRam
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just anything that looks hacked basically. any odd bends in the drag link to compensate for the lift, etc.

6/22/2007 1:33:04 PM

theDuke866
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well, the Scout was AFU. inch thick slabs of bondo falling off of the sides, springs and shackles looked feeble, turn signals didn't work (along with with taillights), fuel gauge didn't work...

but most importantly, it didn't fucking run. it would fire up if he poured gas in the carb, but die after a few seconds. i don't feel like fucking with all of that stuff, because i can get a truck that works for the same price.



prob call about this one tomorrow:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/357466162.html

('77 K5, 305, SM465, NP205, D44 swapped in front, 12 bolt)

6/25/2007 1:55:46 AM

theDuke866
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going to check out that K5 tonight. owner agreed to $1100 if I decide to buy it.

6/25/2007 7:00:13 PM

theDuke866
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that K5 turned out to be like 3.5 hours away...i'm not driving that far just for a beater, unless it's an even better deal than that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200123709699&rd=1

that's right up the road about 30 minutes...hopefully it doesn't go out of sight in the bidding


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i found a killer deal on a 1st gen Miata for a DD, but it was on craigslist w/o a phone #, and i couldn't email him from my roommate's PC, and it got sold before I could buy it. 87k miles, perfect body, for $2000 obo...just kinda needed a new top (but not badly).

7/2/2007 11:25:38 PM

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you need bidsniper

7/4/2007 7:10:58 PM

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just sit on it, you'll come across something cheap enough

7/5/2007 9:47:58 PM

theDuke866
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yeah, that's kinda what i'm doing. i don't REALLY need a 4x4 until ski season--i actually am looking more for a cheap sports car first...that way I'll have something to drive when I sell my Evo, and I won't have to scramble to buy something.

of course, I'm still looking for 4x4s...if I find a good deal on one of them first, I'll go ahead and get it.

7/5/2007 10:33:35 PM

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K5's can be found dirt cheap and are cheap and easy to build/swap parts

7/5/2007 10:35:49 PM

theDuke866
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yeah, i kinda expect a K5 or Ramcharger will be what I get. lot of bang for the buck, and they can carry a lot of skiiers and skiing gear.

early Bronco is my favorite, followed by FJ40. I'd pay more for one of those, but prob not what it would take to get one like i'd want. CJ would be my next choice, with YJ close behind. The Scout/big Bronco/K5/Ramcharger are the other rigs I'm really looking for, but I wouldn't pay as much for them (although they are cheaper anyway).

i want a manual trans, though...that rules out a lot of them.

7/6/2007 12:22:14 AM

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too bad you aren't here. there is a bronco that would fit what you're looking for perfectly, and the guy is practically trying to give it away now.
http://nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23075

7/6/2007 12:38:20 AM

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yeah, that would prob be mine if it were a few thousand miles closer

7/6/2007 12:55:16 AM

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