^^I was joking.

5/7/2007 10:06:37 PM

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"We stole a courtesy wheelchair from a Walmart and spent a weekend riding it down the boat ramp."

haha now thats amazing

5/7/2007 10:12:28 PM

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"All real crimes, when you break them down to their most basic level, are theft in one form or another."

what about murder, assault, rape, arson, drugs, etc

5/7/2007 10:33:36 PM

i think he meant theft in a figurative sense, in that you are taking/using/destroying something that belongs to someone else without their consent and/or by force.

other than drugs, that definition fits the rest of the crimes on your list.

5/7/2007 10:37:02 PM

Correct, because drug use is not a real crime. The only difference between marijuana and alcohol is their current legal status.

5/7/2007 10:41:40 PM

agreed

5/7/2007 11:20:37 PM

i think it borderlines cruel/unusual, more unusual than anything

and the fact that they were given a choice between it and jail is not an excuse

a ruling in which two men were allowed to either a) go to jail for a certain num of years or b) get castrated was overturned, rightfully so, but just to show that a choice is not an excuse if one of them is cruel and unusual - not that rape convicts don't deserve it, but you know, constitution, etc...

5/8/2007 1:03:24 AM

I'm just suprised they even threatened jail time, I mean shit for $7 dollars? It would have cost a shitload to put someone away for 60 days.


Next thing they should do is to get Walmart from stealing from there employees.

[Edited on May 8, 2007 at 1:07 AM. Reason : .]

5/8/2007 1:07:22 AM

^^It's cruel and unusual, not either or. This is neither since sandwich boarding has become relatively common in recent years.

5/8/2007 1:10:00 AM

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"a ruling in which two men were allowed to either a) go to jail for a certain num of years or b) get castrated was overturned, rightfully so"

i do not see a problem with this. the rapists/child molesters/ whatever can just go to jail if they think getting castrated is to cruel for them.

honestly i do not see anything wrong with castrating a child molester. maybe he should have thought about the punishment before having sex with 7 yr old sally

5/8/2007 1:17:28 AM

maybe they had prior convictions then...

its not cruel and unusual in the physical sense, but it is public humiliation sanctioned by the courts.

Also it is not THAT common, and as such, i would say it is unusual...probably why it made the paper

5/8/2007 1:17:32 AM

cassel i'm heading to your hometown tomorrow

5/8/2007 1:18:35 AM

^^^right of course
but its still considered cruel and unusual, and rightfully so, as it is cruel and unusual

^nice, tell all the other tourists to leave please

[Edited on May 8, 2007 at 1:19 AM. Reason : .]

5/8/2007 1:18:37 AM

"public humiliation sanctioned by the courts"

seems like a good counterpoint to the culture of stealing to be "cool"

what's wrong with a little humiliation? Its not like we are cutting off their hands or something, its a sign.

anyway, criminals should be humiliated, its a healthy part of making people feel guilty for their crimes.

5/8/2007 1:35:36 AM

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"seems like a good counterpoint to the culture of stealing to be "cool""

And by the same logic, castration is a great counterpoint to the culture of raping due to "instinct" or "aggression" or [insert reason here].

I think its sketchy because these "punishments" are not done across the board

5/8/2007 1:47:51 AM

i praise people who steal from walmart. walmart steals from the community stealing something thats already pretty much stolen isn't really stealing, is it?

die walmart!

5/8/2007 1:53:22 AM

^ Cute.

Sick, but cute.

5/8/2007 9:03:37 AM

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"it's amazing what some people find "cruel""

5/8/2007 10:07:38 AM

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""Son... why did you steal that cell phone case" "Cause it matched the shoes I had on" "Why didn't you just buy it? You had thirty five dollars in your pocket at the time?" "I didn't want it that bad""

now that kid should have had to do this too... and at school as well

5/8/2007 10:16:20 AM

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"public humiliation sanctioned by the courts" seems like a good counterpoint to the culture of stealing to be "cool" what's wrong with a little humiliation? Its not like we are cutting off their hands or something, its a sign. anyway, criminals should be humiliated, its a healthy part of making people feel guilty for their crimes. "

i agree and i dont remember reading anything that mentioned how many tax dollars this kind of punishment will save.

instead of sending someone to jail for 60 days paying to feed and board them with the other costs put them on the street and humiliate them first...if that doesnt work for a repeat offender then send them to jail

5/8/2007 10:32:46 AM

^saving money by not sending people to jail sounds like a different issue

5/8/2007 11:32:36 AM

Not really. If public humiliation works then it is a good alternative to sending people to jail.

But not sending people to jail without an alternative is not an option.

5/8/2007 11:38:09 AM

i don't think comparing a few hours of humiliation to a permanent loss of limb is a valid comparison.

5/8/2007 12:01:05 PM

It's not like they put them in the stockades.
http://www.lalatimes.com/newsfea/lb_47_anti-smoking-0321.php?PHPSESSID=f297048ca43681da

5/8/2007 12:06:17 PM

^ that's going too far, and i am surprised it is allowed.

aren't "unusual" punishments banned by the constitution?

putting someone in a stockade for a MONTH sure seems unusual to me, over someone breaking a smoking law.

5/8/2007 7:07:27 PM

^^ and ^ wow someone's an idiot. Ever hear of theonion?

5/8/2007 7:34:47 PM

I thought last year Wal-Mark changed their guidelines for the prosecution of shoplifters: "the retail value of the merchandise recovered must exceed $25, and the suspected shoplifter must be at or between the ages of 18 and 65.” Correct me if I'm wrong...

I have a friend, now 23, who is trying to expunge a shoplifting charge from her record. When she was 16, her 14 year-old sister shoplifted something worth less than $10 from Walmart & somehow she has a record from her sister's transgression. I think you can only expunge something from your record once in your lifetime, so she is in the middle of that process, unable to get a "real" job in the meantime.

5/8/2007 8:23:03 PM

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"i praise people who steal from walmart. walmart steals from the community stealing something thats already pretty much stolen isn't really stealing, is it? die walmart!"

oh man.

thats good.

i loled

5/8/2007 11:57:08 PM

like robbing hood

5/9/2007 7:38:41 PM

I did not read the thread, but I will throw in my .02. This issue was explored on an episode of Boston Legal, incidentally. For those who care.

Anyhow-- I think this would be a TERRIBLE sentence if the "victim/suspect/convict" (whatever) was FORCED to wear the sign. She did it as a plea bargain of sorts, though, and I think that justifies it. She could have just as easily taken the jail time and avoided the humiliation, but served the sentence like anyone else would for a similar crime.

Maybe she got off easy, but maybe in that process she was embarassed enough to learn a lesson.

5/9/2007 7:51:31 PM

when we did show and tell why back in the day in school, I borrowed many of the items for an extended period of time.

5/9/2007 7:53:29 PM

I would wear that sign anyway.

They should make that into a t-shirt.

5/9/2007 10:06:39 PM

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"From : RhoIsWar1096 To : Golovko Received : Wednesday May 9, 2007 at 11:51 PM Subject : Re: I stole from Wal-Mart Way to be a hippie douche and fuck up a perfectly good thread"

EL OH EL! i haven't even posted on page 2 yet.

5/10/2007 12:03:24 AM

I would buy it ^^

5/10/2007 1:45:14 AM

I know know you haven't posted on p2 but I didn't want to get the thread off-topic and piss off gunzz so I figured I'd inform you of your douchebaggrery via PM

5/10/2007 1:49:21 AM

STFU hippie.

5/10/2007 1:57:15 AM

Such a lame idea for a punishment.

The petty arguing in this thread is funny, too.




(Was that on topic enough gunzz? You gonna suspend me for posting something you don't want in your thread?)

5/10/2007 2:07:04 AM

Careful there man, you don't want RhoIsWar1096 PMing you 3 days later for posting an opinion or observation he doesn't like.

5/10/2007 2:43:10 AM

isn't it also humiliating to be in prison? I guess we better outlaw prisons, too

5/10/2007 3:06:17 AM

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"Was that on topic enough gunzz? You gonna suspend me for posting something you don't want in your thread?) "

Ronny, as much as i am on your mind you should offer to at least cook me dinner

but being that you are an 8-chinned biscuit i doubt you would share any food

5/10/2007 10:29:53 AM

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"8-chinned biscuit"

I'm stealing that.

5/10/2007 10:31:09 PM

Wow, he's pretty proud of it. He keeps using it. It is nice to see that he at least recycles.

5/10/2007 10:44:16 PM

In other news...Wal-Mart posts it's largest profit loss in 27 years, down 3.5%. Obviously this ploy of parading shoplifters is not working!!!!

5/10/2007 11:45:38 PM

i highly doubt that has anything to do with the loss.

5/10/2007 11:54:15 PM

Well......................duh.


haha

5/11/2007 12:15:36 AM

Im gonna steal that sign to wear for Halloween

and go buttass naked underneath it

[Edited on May 11, 2007 at 12:32 AM. Reason : x]

5/11/2007 12:29:39 AM

No you won't.

5/11/2007 1:06:46 AM

Fuck walmart for tolerating this demeaning treatment of a member of the community. Fuck the court for leveraging a citizen to demean herself to avoid justice. FUCK THIS goddamnit. I'm going to steal some of their slave labor Chinese shit and shove it up the judges ass, fucking piece of shit. Where the fuck in Alabama was this!!! What the fuck kind of near-sighted lesson is to be learned here? OOO, don't steal worthless junk you don't need: Walmart's right to make a profit at the expense of human rights is more important than your liberty and dignity. FUCK this pisses me off HARD. There is a 24 hr WallFUCK a few blocks from here... Lets make the motherfucking judge and walmart stockholders carry some signs. Just because you have the brains, discipline, and education to dance around the law while you steal from people doesn't make you a better person. AT A BARE MINIMUM, if you're going to stand of judgement of someone, do it with respect and honor the choice your fellow human being made.

5/11/2007 6:30:30 AM

Let me get a basic rundown of Walmart security; there's bubba and shaniq eyeing the customers to see if they look guilty right? What else do they have? Some asshole MBA study-group approved deturrent systems? They've got some walls... is that it? What the fuck do they have to deal with a guy that walks in, takes some shit and walks out? I'm sure their training video from the legal dept. makes it perfectly clear not to fuck with a white guy unless the motherfucking district supervisor's supervisor approves of it. Oh, I wish they had those riding lawn mowers out front like Home Despot does, that would be sooo easy.

5/11/2007 6:49:17 AM

^^ clearly we can see who in this thread steals. They should strip her of her dignity and put her in jail. I don't care if she stole from wal-mart or a charity for handicapped children. Stealing is stealing and she wasn't doing it for survival.

5/11/2007 6:55:46 AM