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"Most carjackers don't torture and murder their victims. These guys were far from average."

agreed, which is why I qualified what I said. If this was a target of opportunity, then it might have had an effect. If the subsequent muders and rape were the initial intent (as opposed to just something that developed) who knows. . .




I just realized how fucked up it is that we sit here, for the most part dispassionately, discussing hte finer points of this case when two people were horribly brutalized and something fucked up had to have happend in the lives of hte other four in order to take them to where they are today.

3/22/2007 4:02:12 PM

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"If the subsequent muders and rape were the initial intent (as opposed to just something that developed)"

Yeah, I wonder about the order of things. I can't really say that either one makes much more sense.

3/22/2007 4:23:54 PM

I'm reading these news reports... nothing mentions that body parts were severed or that one was forced to watch while the other was raped.


Salisbury, do you have any additional sources?

3/23/2007 9:01:34 AM

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"I'm reading these news reports... nothing mentions that body parts were severed or that one was forced to watch while the other was raped."

The dismemberment of the girl, Channon Christian, was "officially" released by the public and was included in the news reports.

Some of the other details of the crime...eg, the cutting off of her breasts and the cutting off of Newsom's penis, have not been released officially by the police. They were apparantly leaked or talked about by those close to the investigation...and then people began reporting it on the internet.

3/23/2007 10:29:49 AM

Another fine example of the internet user-based media being far superior than the so-called MSM.

3/23/2007 10:31:31 AM

^ Or the could be made up.

3/23/2007 10:51:02 AM

yeah, I would like an official report about that before I believe it. I mean, the crime is heinous enough already, but this would add significantly.

3/23/2007 11:50:13 AM

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"Witness details Christian’s final hours By JAMIE SATTERFIELD, satterfield@knews.com January 25, 2007 Channon Christian was bound and conscious while her boyfriend was being beaten, shot and burned with gasoline. Those terrifying details of her last hours are contained in an affidavit made public today in Knox County General Sessions Court."

http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_5304458,00.html

3/23/2007 12:04:37 PM

Hm, no mention of her being body being cut up in that one either. It does state that her body was put into garbage bags. Maybe someone saw/heard the "bags" part and just jumped to a conclusion about her being cut up.

But even without that this is a extremely serious crime. One of those times when you wish you could make the criminal live through what they did to the other person.

3/23/2007 1:36:58 PM

absolutely horrible

i need to buy a gun

3/23/2007 2:03:08 PM

I'm assuming that this ties in with salisburyboys desire that America be a "white country."

3/23/2007 2:22:16 PM

have they done more investigation on this?? something tells me there was a bit more back story to it. very rarely does a simple car jacking turn into rape, torture then dismemberment. seems like they were trying to send a messege.

3/23/2007 6:10:45 PM

^I imagine a combination of drug addiction/use, group frenzy, and social/psychological disturbances could produce these results.

3/23/2007 9:09:45 PM

i'm still finding it hard to concern myself explicitly with this one murder. Murders happen everywhere. Why should I be concerned with just this one?

3/23/2007 9:32:08 PM

^ i'm sorry, but i have to agree here.
This is a terrible case. But murders happen every single day in most cities, some of them involving rape and/or torture or other unspeakable affairs. The national media simply cannot and should not be concerned with every single one. To what end would it have served if this story was splashed across CNN and Fox News 24 hours a day for a week? Why do we all need to know about this? If they did talk about it non-stop, you would be crying exploitation and sensationalism.

This is not up there with Dahmer and Mason. Those guys were serial murders, killing victim after victim. If people are being picked off one at a time and it creates a panic in a certain area, then maybe it can be a long term story. But this appeared to be an isolated incident, and there's really not much else to discuss - the victims are dead, and the sickos who did it are caught and will probably be dead themselves within a couple years. Would it really help anybody involved if the victims parents paraded around on Nancy Grace and Larry King for the next month?

The Duke rape case is exactly what is wrong with the national media. That case was and should have remained a local story, to Durham and maybe the Triangle. Rapes occur weekly throughout the Triangle area and nobody hears about them, but because the news media smelled blood that 3 Duke athletes were accused of rape at a party and the inklings of a scandal brewing they blew it completely out of proportion.

3/24/2007 4:01:55 PM

in my HORRIFIC thread, it was actually on the front page of msnbc for a bit, while this one was not!!!! salisburyboy is soooooo right!!!!!

3/24/2007 4:22:14 PM

salisburyboy has been blowing up campusblender lately, but won't give us any attention.

I'm having to go to prisonplanet to stay updated on my conspiracy theories.

3/28/2007 12:54:52 PM

[b]I BET THE JEWS DID IT

3/28/2007 10:31:37 PM

that'll teach them whities

3/28/2007 11:55:58 PM