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"So what I understand from this, I can create a mathematics equation that I cannot prove and no one can currently prove and some how people will spend their lives trying to prove it even when I myself as the creator has no proof to its validity?"

what's so hard to believe about that? progress takes time, sometimes longer than 1 person's lifetime

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3/20/2007 10:33:25 PM

Goldbach! ftw

3/20/2007 10:43:21 PM

3/20/2007 10:45:11 PM

omg, new math problem

a=b

prove it bitches. I know it is true, but you have to prove it.

3/20/2007 10:53:02 PM

we'll probably need super-DUPER-computers for that one

try again in a few decades

3/20/2007 10:55:05 PM

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"So what I understand from this, I can create a mathematics equation that I cannot prove and no one can currently prove and some how people will spend their lives trying to prove it even when I myself as the creator has no proof to its validity?"

E8 isn't an equation... it's a mathematical structure. And you don't prove equations, you solve them.

In other words...

You're out of your element, Donny.

3/21/2007 1:21:19 AM

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"this speaks to the larger body of open problems in mathematics. riemann's hypothesis is my favorite, but there are lots."

I took a course from Brian Green at Cambridge on prime numbers and complex analysis, and he ruined riemann's hypothesis for me. that gets into some hairy stuff.

3/21/2007 1:22:36 AM

lame




those guys wear glasses

3/21/2007 1:47:23 AM

Pssh! I solved that on my Casio watch calculator five years ago.

3/21/2007 4:48:48 AM

Quote :

""So what I understand from this, I can create a mathematics equation that I cannot prove and no one can currently prove and some how people will spend their lives trying to prove it even when I myself as the creator has no proof to its validity?""

and nobody is the creater of the problem, they just discover it first, its a natural problem that humans will one day have to solve anyways

its not like i say 2 + 2 = 5 now you go spend you entire life trying to prove that,
its a real problem with a real solution

3/21/2007 7:50:19 AM

how do they know that?

3/21/2007 7:55:08 AM

^It comes up in the process of trying to classify all the possible structures out there. They begin with a simple definition then ask what are the possible examples. If the theory is very mature and the definitions are chosen wisely then there are cases where they have been able to list everything that can happen. For example finite simple groups. It took over a hundred years to do it starting with 19th century mathematicians and only in the 1980's was it finally completed.

Oh, the proof is a=b => a=b. There you go.

3/21/2007 7:19:13 PM

i can't believe i read the entire article. atleast the picture of e8 is cool. i bet a ton of mathematicians will print it on a shirt. hopefully, i'll run into a hot chick with it on her shirt or something. then, i could be like, "hey, i know what that is". i'd get to fuck a hot, really geeky bitch. sweet.

3/21/2007 7:26:34 PM

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"hopefully, i'll run into a hot chick with it on her shirt or something"

that would be my fantasy and dream come true.

alas, it would never happen.

3/21/2007 7:28:29 PM

^^ haha. the prospect is almost as good as the real thing

[Edited on March 21, 2007 at 7:29 PM. Reason : ^]

3/21/2007 7:28:49 PM

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"Although it has no immediate uses"

if it has no uses why waste so much time on it seems pretty lame to me. they should have invested all that time and resources into something that would actually benefit society

3/21/2007 8:07:03 PM

are you insisting on being blind, or what?

Quote :

"it has no immediate uses"

Quote :

"it has no uses"

and your post shows you have no fucking idea how scientific advancements that have benefited humans were discovered/invented.

3/21/2007 8:24:58 PM

well now they are done solving the problem, and guess what still no uses for it.

still worthless

3/21/2007 8:29:38 PM

what part of

"it has no immediate uses"

do you not understand???

did you even read the links on the first page about the potential use of this???

you think making a scientific advancement of benefit to humans from start to end takes like, no time?

damn i hope you are not a science student.

human genome has been unravelled, but still hasn't done anything for humans.




[Edited on March 21, 2007 at 8:37 PM. Reason : NO MORE TROLLS]

3/21/2007 8:34:14 PM

a=b
a^2=ab
a^2-b^2=ab-b^2
(a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b)
a+b=b
a+a=a
2a=a
2=1

TAH DAH!!!

3/21/2007 11:08:23 PM

yeah yeah, /0

3/21/2007 11:12:38 PM

thats right

get on it

3/22/2007 1:14:39 AM

(a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b)

3/22/2007 1:21:14 AM

here is something interesting:

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""What's attractive about studying E8 is that it's as complicated as symmetry can get", observed David Vogan from the Massachussetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the US. "Mathematics can almost always offer another example that's harder than the one you're looking at now, but for Lie groups, E8 is the hardest one." "

and here is what the lecture was titled at the MIT conference when they revealed the results:

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"The Character Table for E8, or How We Wrote Down a 453,060 x 453,060 Matrix and Found Happiness. "

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2007 12:34:22 PM

bttt

6/5/2007 9:05:54 PM

Quote :

"a=b a^2=ab a^2-b^2=ab-b^2 (a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b) a+b=b a+a=a 2a=a 2=1 TAH DAH!!!"

(a-b) = (a-a) = (0)
x/(0) = ????

Because i know theres somebody on Tdub being driven nuts by that.

6/6/2007 4:40:05 PM

^ hahaha... that's a classic one and always drives people crazy!

6/6/2007 4:59:35 PM