Quote :

"that's crap torque..."

holy crap 125 difference
this thing is probably going to have an 8k redline or more.

I don't know man... and this means the engine is going to peak torque really high too
its going to drive like an s2k so probably a great track car but not that quick irl.

[Edited on March 12, 2007 at 7:06 AM. Reason : .]

3/12/2007 7:05:59 AM

that snatch back is hot

3/12/2007 7:32:54 AM

^yeah definitely. Thats more like the real M3 successor. I can't fucking stand all these automakers supersizing every single model they produce

Quote :

"it'll grow on you all. give it time."

Considering the current 3 series has been out for 3 years and its styling hasn't grown on me I have to disagree.

3/12/2007 12:15:40 PM

M3 sedan and convertible spied

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070316.003/bmw/spy-photos-more-bmw-m3-four-door-and-convertible

The tail lights on the sedan =

(compare with tail lights on the E90 kit that 1in10^9 posted)

3/17/2007 5:39:16 AM

the e46 side vents look so much better than those new things

3/17/2007 3:45:37 PM

i differ

3/17/2007 3:46:45 PM

it was exactly like this when e46 came out. 2 years later everybody was drooling.

3/17/2007 11:29:22 PM

no, they werent. BMW retains their following, but their shit has fallen off bigtime in the past 5 years.

Also, why does everyone even give a damn about hp/tq numbers? I mean, they are all to the point of retardedness in any decent car, so what the fuck does it matter? I'd rather hear about how they revolutionized the suspension and interior than how they added 12 more horsepower.

At least they are consistent making lifeless, yuppie cars with big fucking power that no one will ever use.

3/18/2007 2:44:10 AM

^ Are you implying that the suspension is lacking? I've never driven an M3 more recent than the e36, but I guess I assumed that they get better with each iteration.

Quote :

"Also, why does everyone even give a damn about hp/tq numbers?"

The American public is overly obsessed with the numbers game (HP, 0-60, and slightly less so, torque,) while ignoring the fact that the car might weigh 1k more than it's lower HP competitor and handle like ass.

Just because they focus their marketing to what the public is demanding doesn't mean they haven't enhanced the car in other areas though. You should understand as well as anybody that marketing is going to cater to what people want to hear. Just wait for the road tests if you want a review with any real substance.

[Edited on March 18, 2007 at 3:12 AM. Reason : l]

3/18/2007 3:11:26 AM

^^fallen off how? market for E46 is expanding at the same rate just as it was for E36. new BMW are always bought by doctors, lawyers and yuppies, it is nothing new. they sell the car when warranty is out and then it becomes available to general enthusiasts. this has always been a trend. BMW presence in US has actually expanded in last ten years.

3/18/2007 9:36:12 AM

Quote :

"it was exactly like this when e46 came out. 2 years later everybody was drooling."

From what I recall most people loved the E46 right off the bat, myself included.

3/19/2007 12:45:52 PM

for TKE-Teg:

spy photos of 1-series coupe along with an artist's impression:

3/20/2007 4:38:46 PM

Is that a re-badged Smart car?

3/20/2007 5:04:06 PM

full technical details of engine revealed.

4-page article for the engine-heads:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/gcf/newsID/2070322.001/bmw/new-bmw-m3-v8-engine-in-detail

First eight-cylinder for the BMW M3 sports car.
Supreme performance ensured by 309 kW/420 hp from 4.0 litres.
Maximum torque of 400 Newton-metres (295 lb-ft) at 3,900 rpm, 85 per cent of maximum torque over a speed range of 6,500 rpm.
Unique thrust and muscle ensured by consistent implementation of the M high-speed engine concept, maximum engine speed 8,300 rpm.

3/22/2007 11:03:36 AM

SWEET JESUS!!

3/22/2007 12:00:35 PM

OH MY FUCKING GOD

i just read the article. well worth a read.

3/22/2007 12:03:35 PM

itbs... teh secks

3/22/2007 12:08:35 PM

^^

engine-heads

3/22/2007 12:11:11 PM

^Thanks man. Unfortunately I'm not digging the looks, esp. the high hood (b/c of that gay pedestrian law in Europe). By the time this comes out it'll probably be the same as a Z4 M Coupe, which I'd take hands down. Who needs back seats?

3/22/2007 12:18:00 PM

wow... sign me up


AMG has their work cut out for them if they want the new C-class to even think about running with this bad boy

3/22/2007 2:31:58 PM

^ in straightline performance, the AMGs have always kicked the shit out of any other luxury performance cars, especially the BMW Ms and the Audi RSs.

the new C63 AMG is gonna have the monster 6.3 litre V8, developing around 475 hp and at least 450 lb-ft of torque, which gives the AMGs the edge (detuned from 510 hp in the E and S).

this would be a great comparo in a few months' time by any mag:

Audi RS4
BMW M3 (sedan)
Merc C63 AMG
Lexus IS-F
Caddy CTS-V

there is nothing else in that category.

Infiniti will probably come out with a souped up version of their G35 sedan soon to compete with the Lexus IS-F.


[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 5:26 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2007 5:04:41 PM

Another 4-page article for the engine-heads, this time on all BMW engines, with cool pics of all BMW engines like the M3's above:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/gcf/newsID/2070323.003/bmw/bmw-efficientdynamics-in-detail



M3 sedan photochop:

3/23/2007 11:12:44 AM

what was revealed at geneva was officially the M3 CONCEPT, even though everybody knew the production version would basically be identical.

well now pics of the production version have leaked!

the carbon fiber roof of the concept carried forward!!!

4/3/2007 4:43:01 PM

someone asked a while back what e92 weighs...

This is what an e92 335i weighs according to edmunds...
Curb Weight MT
3571
Curb Weight AT
3582

I imagine the M3 will only be marginally lighter... so yeah, it's about 150 lbs heavier than the e46 m3...

4/4/2007 12:38:13 AM

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54547

4/4/2007 1:03:12 AM

^ thanks. those are some great pics!!!

clearly shows the new one looks much better than the outgoing one. a lot more aggessive, sleeker, tighter body, and just packaged nicely. and damn, those graphite colored wheels are PURE SEX!!!

you can clearly see what i mean here:






[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 9:08 AM. Reason : ]

4/4/2007 9:02:34 AM

I like the new one as well, I didnt like it at first, but its growing one me.

^ The side by side is nice.

4/4/2007 10:39:29 AM

it just keeps growing and growing

4/4/2007 10:55:06 AM

i'd take a 4 door version of the e46.

the new 4 door rendering is ok, since i prefer 4 doors.



but i'm not a fan of the coupe.

4/4/2007 12:25:50 PM

did they fix the ass end?

like others have said, this one's pretty bleh on the outside

4/4/2007 2:08:16 PM

keeps getting better and better!

4/4/2007 10:18:19 PM

real good-looking cars dont need to "grow on you". and the hood pimple ftl. wtf bmw.

4/4/2007 10:58:56 PM

i like it but i think its too big to be an m3
i think the entire 3 series is too big now.

4/5/2007 8:02:31 AM

tons of new pics released!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
http://www.worldcarfans.com/photos.cfm/photoID/3070405.003/country/gcf/bmw/new-bmw-m3


two of my favourites:



carbon-fiber-reinforced roof:

larger version: http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/18-2009-bmw-m3.jpg






graphite colored wheels:

larger version: http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/20-2009-bmw-m3.jpg

4/5/2007 11:02:56 PM

bmw has stellar wheel designers
there aren't many i don't like

4/5/2007 11:21:35 PM

hell yeah


http://www.bmw.com/com/en/index_highend.html

4/5/2007 11:28:41 PM

That's weird, I don't like most recent BMW wheels... I also don't like this coupe so much, sedan looks far better, I admit both have been growing on me however...
Ahmet

4/6/2007 12:18:35 AM

Quote :

"i like it but i think its too big to be an m3 i think the entire 3 series is too big now."

I agree with you 100% and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the new 3 series coupe is bigger than the old 6 series coupe.

4/6/2007 12:31:59 AM

http://www.digg.com/design/2008_BMW_M3_Coupe_officially_revealed_35_Pics_too

4/6/2007 2:04:15 PM

for 1600 x 1200 wallpapers:

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/bmw_m3.asp


best one:

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/11/bmwm309_111600.jpg

4/6/2007 10:51:13 PM

Quote :

"i like it but i think its too big to be an m3 i think the entire 3 series is too big now."

christ, the e46 was too big.

4/6/2007 11:04:46 PM

VIDEOS !!!!!


http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/07/video-bmw-drops-m3-spot-on-suspecting-enthusiasts/

http://www.auto-tuning-news.com/flash_44_60.html

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55177

http://thecarfanatic.com/?p=850

4/8/2007 9:10:28 AM

<--- anxiously awaiting 130si or 135i, 130iMsport or whatever they call it so long as it's got >250 lbs hp and <3200 lbs and has a 3-box shape...

<rant following>

The whole "we can't name it the M1, there already was an M1" argument doesn't make much sense.
Is anyone really going to confuse a '70's lamborghini-designed, m5 engined wedge with scooby-doo's head? (british criticism of the 1-series hatch that we won't be getting... we're getting the coupe.)

And what if someone did confuse the two? Would that REALLY be bad for sales? I keep seeing some pretty nifty print ads in my head with the tagline "two m1s we've built in the last 40 years"

And it wouldn't even create any ebay controversy. Even in 20 years people would have to mess up the thousands digit in the "before year" box to have search results containing both cars, unlike how "M coupe" used to bring up every m3 on ebay. (they fixed it, it has its own category now)

Also, Given M's "needs-to-be-lower-weight" arguments for never producing an M-8 or M-7, wouldn't there be M cred to be GAINED by making an M1 instead of having the lightest current M car push 3600 lbs?

Isn't the M1, listed at being 250+ lbs lighter than e92s, engine for engine, the more ideal successor for 2002 and e30 fans who refuse to "graduate" to e92 ownership?

And who cares if the m1 is way up in 3-series pricing. I don't think buyers of a 328i sedan will be cross shopping an M1.

I could understand the resistance to slap the M badge on something not using a specifically M-developed motor, so just throw the s52 in there and we'll call it even.
</rant>

[Edited on April 9, 2007 at 12:00 AM. Reason : hp not lbs]

4/9/2007 12:00:01 AM

I'll let you guys know how they drive when they arrive.

4/9/2007 5:41:04 PM

^^ good rant, but you should send it to BMW (i am serious).

unless they know that there is a demand for it to be badged M1, they are not gonna do it, are they?

email them, and then ask a 100 of your friends to email them and each one asks a 100 of their friends, and so on.

4/9/2007 5:45:47 PM

view all the body colors with each of 2 wheel designs:

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-bmw-m3/

4/12/2007 9:30:21 PM

^lol, I was just checking out bmw's international website where they took the screenshots:
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/index_highend.html


they have every model with a flash wheels and color config... this is an m5 touring with the m6 wheels in indianapolis red:


[Edited on April 12, 2007 at 9:39 PM. Reason : +screenshot]

4/12/2007 9:33:31 PM

4/12/2007 9:34:58 PM

videos of engine assembly

gorgeous!

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55594

4/13/2007 10:13:54 PM

thanks

4/14/2007 10:35:11 AM