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drunknloaded
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sorry i was editing a post in chit chat what did i miss?

8/1/2006 1:56:11 PM

boonedocks
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Arg almost had it.

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 1:57 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 1:56:27 PM

TreeTwista10
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just like peoples birthdays are completely different than what years a war took place from

wars dont have birthdays

^no you didnt

8/1/2006 1:57:15 PM

sarijoul
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so if a conflict started on dec 31, 2001 and and ended a few hours later on january 1, 2002, you'd say the war lasted for two years?

8/1/2006 1:58:44 PM

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"wars dont have birthdays
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of course not, but wars DO start on a particular day, just as people start their lives on a particular day.

even if a war started on january 1, 2005...it will not have lasted two years until january 1, 2007.

8/1/2006 1:59:43 PM

TreeTwista10
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no but why dont you check the months of the Abassid Dynasty instead of doing like all the other simpletons and saying "OMG 1258-759 YOU ARE WRONG OMG LEARN MATH0"

funny how i just say "in how many years have you been alive" and half the jackasses stfu

8/1/2006 2:00:21 PM

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there is no way that that period of time could be 500 years long. it could AT MOST be 499.99999 years.

8/1/2006 2:01:33 PM

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because that doesnt matter. even if the dynasty began on january 1, 759 it will not have lasted 500 years until january 1, 1259

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"funny how i just say "in how many years have you been alive" and half the jackasses stfu"


they dont answer because thats not the same question. have you ever heard anyone ask that? of course not, because its an irrelavent point.

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:04 PM. Reason : df]

8/1/2006 2:01:54 PM

TreeTwista10
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^no that would be 501 years

holy shit you are dumb

8/1/2006 2:03:27 PM

UJustWait84
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even though there was peace for roughly 500 years, i'll round up to the nearest millenia while im at it!

8/1/2006 2:03:43 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^^that would be 501 years

holy shit you are dumb

8/1/2006 2:05:07 PM

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"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!"

8/1/2006 2:06:37 PM

UJustWait84
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THE MIDDLE EAST HAS BEEN AT WAR FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, MINUS SEVERAL CENTURY LONG SPANS OF PEACE

8/1/2006 2:07:13 PM

TreeTwista10
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HEY GUYS THE 90'S WAS 1990 TO 2000

2000 WASNT PART OF THE NEXT DECADE

IM BRAD I CAN ADD REAL GOOD

8/1/2006 2:07:32 PM

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"because that doesnt matter. even if the dynasty began on january 1, 759 it will not have lasted 500 years until january 1, 1259"


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"^no that would be 501 years

holy shit you are dumb"


ok. lets move this down to one year. if a war lasted from january 1, 2001 to january 1, 2002, that war would have lasted 365 days, also known as one year. now maybe on january 2 you might say that war was in its "second year" but that would NOT mean that it had actually lasted two years. that would only happen on january 1, 2003.

8/1/2006 2:08:37 PM

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The Middle East was such a wartorn hellhole in the middle ages.

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 2:09:25 PM

UJustWait84
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ah the forgotten 'thousands of years long war'

where was i in history class that day?

8/1/2006 2:09:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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you cant equivocate wars to birthdays

if a war is going on during both 2001 and 2002...its going on in 2 years

furthermore, Jan 1, 759 to Jan 1, 1259 is 501 years exactly

Jan 1, 759 - Jan 1, 768 would be 10 years...not 9

8/1/2006 2:10:02 PM

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the romans did years like you do, treetwista, so its not unprecedented, its just not how we do things these days, sorry.

AND:
we didn't say it was "going on" in 499 years, we said it had lasted 499 years

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:11 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 2:10:55 PM

TreeTwista10
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its amazing how many of you think 1990-2000 = 10 years just because 2000-1990 = 10

its 11 years you idiots

i cant talk politics if you cant even do simple math

8/1/2006 2:10:58 PM

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well i guess one thing we can all agree on is that if hezbollah had not kidnapped 2 soldiers, lebanon would be a lot better off, no?

8/1/2006 2:11:34 PM

TreeTwista10
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although 1995 - 1990 = 5 as a math problem

the span of 1990 - 1995 is not 5 years its 6

1. 1990
2. 1991
3. 1992
4. 1993
5. 1994
6. 1995

i gotta spoonfeed you guys shit i learned in kindergarten and you expect to know something about politics?

8/1/2006 2:12:24 PM

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"LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!"

8/1/2006 2:13:26 PM

sarijoul
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with your logic, a five minute war lasts a year.

8/1/2006 2:14:04 PM

TreeTwista10
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with your logic 2 = 3

8/1/2006 2:14:21 PM

boonedocks
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August 1, 2006 lasts for 365 days.

8/1/2006 2:15:27 PM

TreeTwista10
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spans of wars are the exact same thing as my birthday

the middle east never had any violence since the mid 20th century

8/1/2006 2:16:40 PM

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They both began and ended on specific days.

omg strawman.

8/1/2006 2:18:20 PM

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^^^^what are you talking about? i'm not saying how many years something takes place in. i'm using a far more useful number which is the length of a period of time. your measure is pretty useless.

for instance if something lasted from january 1, 2001 to march 1, 2002 i would say it lasted one year and two months, also known as fourteen months:

1. jan 2001
2. feb 2001
3. mar 2001
4. apr 2001
5. may 2001
6. june 2001
7. july 2001
8. aug 2001
9. sep 2001
10. oct 2001
11. nov 2001
12. dec 2001
13. jan 2001
14. feb 2001

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 2:18:27 PM

TreeTwista10
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its funny how nobody has even questioned the validity of the timeline i posted

i mean it must be doctored or something

8/1/2006 2:18:54 PM

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The Roman and Mongols were invaders, so would that count against the ME? Wasn't really their fault as they were being invaded.

8/1/2006 2:19:07 PM

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uh it's still only 5 years you idiot

jan 1 1990- jan 1 1991=1
jan 1 1991- jan 1 1992=1
jan 1 1992- jan 1 1993=1
jan 1 1993- jan 1 1994=1
jan 1 1994- jan 1 1995=1

you count years that way stupid

8/1/2006 2:19:17 PM

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i don't think anyone is going to question that the middle east has had conflicts other than those in israel.

i mean, iran and iraq fought for a long ass time and that was very recent.

8/1/2006 2:20:06 PM

TreeTwista10
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^no, people ARE questioning that

they think it was a "pretty nice place" before israel

8/1/2006 2:20:08 PM

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"The Roman and Mongols were invaders, so would that count against the ME? Wasn't really their fault as they were being invaded."

8/1/2006 2:21:01 PM

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"its funny how nobody has even questioned the validity of the timeline i posted"


Well either way, it proved you wrong.


It was a "pretty nice place" in the past. Middle East > Europe prior to the 18th Century.

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 2:21:16 PM

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"for instance if something lasted from january 1, 2001 to march 1, 2002 i would say it lasted one year and two months, also known as fourteen months:

1. jan 2001
2. feb 2001
3. mar 2001
4. apr 2001
5. may 2001
6. june 2001
7. july 2001
8. aug 2001
9. sep 2001
10. oct 2001
11. nov 2001
12. dec 2001
13. jan 2001
14. feb 2001"

8/1/2006 2:22:24 PM

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ill put it in another way so you can understand

i was born on december 20th and when i was little i always remembered what day christmas was on because it is five days later

december 20th- 5 days left
december 21th- 4 days left
december 22nd- 3 days left
december 23rd- 2 days left
december 24th- 1 day left
december 25th- 0 days left

see even as a small child i was able to count off the days til christmas, maybe you can try to remember my little trick the next time you have to count

8/1/2006 2:24:41 PM

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"It was a "pretty nice place" in the past. Middle East > Europe prior to the 18th Century."


wow.....WOW

8/1/2006 2:25:04 PM

sarijoul
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the middle east was certainly more religiously tolerant throughout most of its earlier history than europe was.

8/1/2006 2:26:00 PM

UJustWait84
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are you seriously trying to say that Europe has been more peaceful than the middle east over the past few centuries?

8/1/2006 2:26:42 PM

TreeTwista10
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no, the past few millenia...though they've both had conflicts, some involving each other

and ahahah i cant wait until you guys' math logic quickly changes when talking about the iraq war...the war started in March 2003...if it ended in April 2007 that would be a 5 year war to you guys, instead of a 4 years 1 month war...because its Bush and he's bad

8/1/2006 2:28:29 PM

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"if it ended in April 2007 that would be a 5 year war to you guys, instead of a 4 years 1 month war"


no, it would still be a 4 years 1 month war.

8/1/2006 2:30:03 PM

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jesus christ. it would be over 4 years, but not 5 years.

8/1/2006 2:30:09 PM

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Would you rather be in Europe or the Middle East during the middle ages?

And I'll modify my statement in anticipation of nit-pickiness:

Middle East > Europe 8th Century - 17th Century.



[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 2:54:57 PM

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^ I'd rather live in England after the final conquest. As of the 15th century England was becoming a fairly stable place to live. Nevermind the liberty allowed for freemen. (it was among the first nation to abolish serfdom) Hell, even during the anti-Catholic scares there were friggin' Catholics serving in Parliament! Name any other country/place on earth that allowed religious rivals access to the halls of power?

Plus, at no point were jews systematically murdered (deported is another matter), something that neither the middle-east nor mainland Europe can claim.

[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 4:05 PM. Reason : .,.]

8/1/2006 4:03:46 PM

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Well sure. I'd probably prefer 15th C Florence, too. Or a few other areas.

Overall though, the Middle East was a pretty good place to be even as Europe began to emerge as a world power.



[Edited on August 1, 2006 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2006 4:10:13 PM

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"i was born on december 20th and when i was little i always remembered what day christmas was on because it is five days later

december 20th- 5 days left
december 21th- 4 days left
december 22nd- 3 days left
december 23rd- 2 days left
december 24th- 1 day left
december 25th- 0 days left

see even as a small child i was able to count off the days til christmas, maybe you can try to remember my little trick the next time you have to count"


Its really 6 days though. You're just saying "Christmas is here because its 00:01 am on December 25th...and he's saying the 20th-25th is 6 days because Christmas itself is an entire day. You know how when you're going out of town you always read 20th-25th as "Twentieth THROUGH the Twenty-Fifth"
That through in there implies that you're gone 6 days.

But even so, this is retarded symantics that has no fucking place in a serious discussion.

8/1/2006 4:35:59 PM

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Also, I'd rather live in England too. Even their wars sounded fun. The war of the roses! Watch out for the thorns! Teehee!

8/1/2006 4:37:25 PM

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^^someone else has a brain!

8/1/2006 4:40:06 PM

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