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"i debated going veg. for health and weight reasons once, but it lasted all of 12 hours"

I tried too once in high school, lasted about 3 hours, moms pork chops got me at dinner that night

6/14/2006 5:20:10 PM

I like meat way too much to give a fuck about an animal's feelings

6/14/2006 5:22:21 PM

Drink protein shakes or eat protein bars

6/14/2006 5:28:05 PM

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"more then 20-30g in one sitting = bad 1g per 1lb wieght PER DAY = good /experts"

You mean /powerlifters, who are hardly experts. Most experts(scientists) agree that 1g per 1kg of body weight is a more accurate assesment. Let me explain. The average adult human body(size, metabolism, daily grind) breaks down about 200-300 grams of protein per day. All but about 40-50 grams of this is recycled. These 40-50 grams need to be replenished through food. Even if you work out consistently 70-100grams per day still keeps you in a no loss zone, provided you space it out across the day.

6/14/2006 5:28:59 PM

if i had to guess i'd say i get about 60 grams a day or so, sometimes i do have to go about 10 hours in between a meal though, is that ok?

6/14/2006 5:31:15 PM

Even if your protein is less one day, say 10 grams, your body will make up for it in the following days. The human body is more resilient than what most give it credit.

[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 5:32 PM. Reason : a]

6/14/2006 5:32:11 PM

I get about 240g of protein a day
85g of fat
and I adjust carbs as needed

it really just depends on the individual and his/her goals

6/14/2006 5:32:52 PM

The human muscle cell is 15-20% protein, 70-75% water, and the rest fat, minerals, vitamins, and glycogen.

240g protein x 100%/20% = 1200g. There is no way you are gaining 1kg muscle per day. It seems your goal is just to eat that much protein in one day, without questioning the reprecussions on your liver or kidneys.

6/14/2006 5:35:47 PM

drink water


and it really doesnt matter how much protein you consume, you don't gain muscle (at least nothing substantial) unless you're eating a calorie surplus/above maintanence

The ammonia is what is bad for your liver, the extra nitrogen is bad for the kidneys (by product of amino acid metabolism). There have been NO studies proving if this is toxic to us. If you have a healthy renal system I seriously doubt you could consume enough protein to cause damage.


[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 5:49 PM. Reason : ]

6/14/2006 5:37:16 PM

6:30: protein shake (1 scoop protein = 31 grams and 8 oz water)
7:10: Bowl of cereal (oats/honey/crunch type) with 1% milk
10:00: Banana
12:00: Turkey sandwich with 1 slice swiss cheese, tomato, lettuce, miracle whip some kind of friut(peace, strawberry etc) and a few sun chips
between 2-4: small snack (hand ful of almonds or peanut butter on a slice of whole wheat)
5:45: sunflower seeds
6:30-8: gym
9: Dinner (1 chicken breast usually - maybe lean steak on certain days, either brocelli spears no cheese no butter or some type of green vegetable or peppers or salad)
somewhere between here ill eat a small snack at times(celery sticks with ranch or i'll cheat and have an ice cream sandwich)


and i drink way over 8 glasses of water per day and run 3 miles everyday plus weight lifting...I'm tryiing to keep muscle and get even more "cut" without losing weight
11:00ish(not yet, but thinking about 1 more protein shake before bed)


So do you think this is too much? Should i be cutting back?

[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 10:14 PM. Reason : how does this sound]

6/14/2006 10:11:52 PM

That looks like just one meal for me

6/15/2006 12:25:54 AM

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"Lewizzle: You're an idiot. The yolk contains a significant amount of protein, and virtually all the fat and vitamins/minerals in a egg, along with the cholesterol. Eggs are one of the most complete foods there are. Think about it, it contains everything to make a baby chicken. Vegetarian or not, do yourself a favor, and eat the yolk. By the way, the cholesterol in your blood is more dependent on saturated fat intake than cholesterol intake. "

you dumb nigger, refer to http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/protein/egg-protein.htm
... he was solely refering to protein intake; and the white has more protein with less fat and cholesterol thus being healthier

durka durka durka jihad: FUCK YOU

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 12:39 AM. Reason : team america, fuck yea]

6/15/2006 12:34:58 AM

Unless you eat like 20 eggs a day, its not going to make a fucking difference. Eat the yolk, get the other half of the protein and all those yummy vitamins.

6/15/2006 12:39:06 AM

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"boil some eggs and eat the white a ton of protein in that stuff, the yellow is mostly cholesterol"

^^For a n00b, you must think you're hard. Read before your respond, and you won't make an ass of yourself. Better yet, just read, and don't respond at all.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 7:37 AM. Reason : a]

6/15/2006 7:36:51 AM

Hey, lets all flip out about some eggs.

6/15/2006 8:51:16 AM

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"6:30: protein shake (1 scoop protein = 31 grams and 8 oz water) 7:10: Bowl of cereal (oats/honey/crunch type) with 1% milk 10:00: Banana 12:00: Turkey sandwich with 1 slice swiss cheese, tomato, lettuce, miracle whip some kind of friut(peace, strawberry etc) and a few sun chips between 2-4: small snack (hand ful of almonds or peanut butter on a slice of whole wheat) 5:45: sunflower seeds 6:30-8: gym 9: Dinner (1 chicken breast usually - maybe lean steak on certain days, either brocelli spears no cheese no butter or some type of green vegetable or peppers or salad) somewhere between here ill eat a small snack at times(celery sticks with ranch or i'll cheat and have an ice cream sandwich) and i drink way over 8 glasses of water per day and run 3 miles everyday plus weight lifting...I'm tryiing to keep muscle and get even more "cut" without losing weight 11:00ish(not yet, but thinking about 1 more protein shake before bed)"

so am i taking in too much or two less?

6/15/2006 9:32:12 AM

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"I do eat eggs"

so you won't eat animals but you'll eat animal babies.....SICKO!!

6/15/2006 10:16:18 AM

^^What are your goals?

6/15/2006 12:01:46 PM

I weight about 180 right now. I am fairly cut now. I am just getting back into the gym, i've been going 4-5 days a week for the past month and a half or so. i want to stay around 180-185..get rid of excess fat of not working out for the past like year(I was really active in high school and worked out all the time and continued into the first couple of years in college, but then slacked off. I'm not fat at all by no means. I went from 145 my freshman year(really skinny, ran alot, played soccer/had abs) to about 175 after graduation(abs started disappearing a little..still have mass and some shape). Like i said before, I pretty much want to stay at or around this weight, loss excess fat, and tone up big time. I dont want to be a big bodybuilder type at all. I usually don't care about lifting the most weight. I try to get in about 10-15 sets of every excersise i do and I do about 200-400 ab reps a day.

6/15/2006 12:08:37 PM

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"so you won't eat animals but you'll eat animal babies.....SICKO!!"

Unfertilized eggs should be thought of as baby food for chickens.

6/15/2006 12:51:45 PM

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"i'd be a vegan if chef boyardi wasnt considered meat "

It ain't.


On another note, I like to think about such things as our place in the food chain. We as humans are naturally evolved to be onmivorous, and one proof is that we do have to juggle several different vegetable proteins in order to obtain all required amino acids. Meats contain all.

Another argument: why the hell do we have incisors, cuspids, and bicuspids if we weren't meant to use them to rend meat?

You could argue that we've successfully removed ourselves as prey in the predator-prey relationship in the food chain, and you'd be mostly correct...except for at the bacterial level.

6/15/2006 1:09:36 PM

You could argue that humans evolved their brains to realize that they had to combine foods to get complete protein. The presence of a variety of teeth doesn't give us a reason to eat certain things-- it just means we can. We don't have the mouths for eating clams and lobsters and plenty of other things, but we've developed utensils and cooking methods to adapt to our environment and its resources.

Personally, I think my hands are really well adapted to murder and petty larceny, but I prefer to think of those possibilities as options, not biological imperatives.

6/15/2006 1:14:06 PM

answer my question..damnit..please..haha

6/15/2006 1:22:51 PM

^^I think the point is that if we're designed to eat a certain type of food, we would probably get the most nutritional value of eating that food. If your body is designed to consume meat, then it probably expects meat to function optimally.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 1:29 PM. Reason : durka durka]

6/15/2006 1:25:33 PM

My point is that humans are highly adaptable and can get proper nutrition from plenty of different diets. If you want to argue design, your body is "designed" (adapted) to expect protein and unless your body has some highly specific allergies, it doesn't discriminate between complete proteins in meat or complementary proteins from other sources.

I guess it could be argued that we were designed to eat Big Macs. Let me know if anyone finds a gene for that.

6/15/2006 2:37:13 PM

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" i do and I do about 200-400 ab reps a day."

hotwolf, why do you do so many reps for abs?? Also why are you training your abs everyday? They're just like every other muscle group NOT TO MENTION that if you're doing squats and other compound movements you'll end up hitting your core anyways.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 4:30 PM. Reason : ]

6/15/2006 4:29:41 PM

Maybe he's practicing getting 200 in a minute to ace a PE exam.

6/15/2006 4:45:06 PM

i didn't mean to type every day, i only do that every other day. I do about 4 or 5 ab exercises with 3 or 4 sets of 20-25 reps.

6/15/2006 4:45:08 PM

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"They're just like every other muscle group "

Hardly.

6/15/2006 4:50:57 PM

i agree, you shouldn't work your abs every single day, I think he was referring to the fact that it's just like every muscle in the sense, it needs time to rest and build the muscle. If you work it everyday, then it is harder to gain anything.

6/15/2006 4:53:01 PM

Your abs can take a lot of punishment though, more so than most muscle groups.

6/15/2006 4:54:30 PM

yes that is true...alot of times i do back to back days, but too much of it will cause a less rapid change and like he was saying, you tend to work your abs while working out whenever you don't expect it in just about every work out you do.

6/15/2006 4:55:59 PM

^^no shit...like I said, just about everything indirectly hits your core area

hotwolf nailed it with what I meant...DIRECT ab work, just like other muscle groups, should not be done everyday to allow proper rest and growth


also, I think it would probably be more beneficial (and this is also what I meant by "your abs are like other muscle groups") if you lowered the reps and sets and did 3-4 sets of 15 reps weighted decline crunches/ or reg. if you don't have a decline bench

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 5:31 PM. Reason : ]

6/15/2006 5:20:57 PM