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2/13/2006 6:25:39 AM

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"Now new research links creative ability and sexual success"

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0006C77A-D7DD-138C-974083414B7F4945

2/13/2006 6:27:23 AM

girls end up with jerks not because they can't see that he's a jerk, but because they want to be the exception. which is similer to "Also, you want to think that if you're the best girl in the world and people will change because you are so awesome and they wanna be with you." but not quite the same. The thing is, if you stop being a jerk or become to much of one, she'll dump you for that, too. Another thing is most girls I know who are worth anything don't want to be put on a pedastal and they aren't looking for guys who will buy them a bunch of shit. In other words, those flowers and opening the door to the car for her, while a "nice" idea, probably aren't the way to go. Stuff like that's reserved for when your old and joking around. (For building doors, if you can open it for her without being obvious, there's nothing wrong with it, but if rush ahead to get it or try to do that hold-it-open-with-your-arm-but-let-her-go-through-first-thing it's just downright awkward. Girls ARE capable of doing things themselves.)

I'm sure I didn't cover everything I wanted, but there're other people to fill in the gaps.

2/13/2006 6:45:18 AM

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"In other words, those flowers and opening the door to the car for her, while a "nice" idea, probably aren't the way to go. Stuff like that's reserved for when your old and joking around."

Wow.

Well guys, if you didn't already know that you shouldn't come to TWW for advice about the opposite sex, then this should solidify it.

2/13/2006 8:33:26 AM

Most self-proclaimed "nice guys" tend to be obsequious pussies who reek of desperation. To you, every guy who has success with women has to be an asshole.

2/13/2006 8:48:57 AM

It's all about where you are in life.

Different women want different things and maturity is a big factor. Still, there are some things that all women want and that's the part you need to figure out.

2/13/2006 9:21:04 AM

^x4. there is a difference between being put on a pedestal and being put first (both parties should be putting the other first in a solid, non-selfish relationship). as a side, my husband always opens doors for me. i don't think i am any less of an independent woman for allowing him to.

some tips on getting a decent girl:
don't call girls chicks
if you are wanting just a "cute chick", stop looking and grow up a little first. maturity is a big turn on.
bathe regularly
don't be self centered. ask girls what they like and what they want.
don't be fake. don't "try" to be sensitive. that is ridiculous.
don't try to impress us with your bench presses, your car, your gelled up hair, etc.
talk about more than football
don't stare at other girls chests while talking to someone you are interested in.
don't be whiny and needy (aka don't act like a girl. then you are put in the "gay zone")
don't try to be our friends. ask the girl out on a date. don't say "hey, let's hang out." (then you are automatically put in the "friend zone")
don't go after girls who just got out of a relationship. they will be needy and clingy and will probably just date you to "not be alone"
look for more than just looks. good conversation, humor, etc. can make up for a lot. the total package will be more attrqactive in the end anyway.
tell us about your interests. just don't obsess over it and expect us to still be listening.
think about where you are looking for girls. ok, you meet a girl in a strip club. chances are the relationship won't last and it will cost you some cash. look in a church, chances are you end up with a somewhat moral person (so, if all ya want is sex.... probably not the best choice of hunting ground).
stop obsessing over why girls go after assholes. that is like us wondering why guys go after sluts or bitches. people are dumb. sometimes they don't see the truth. sometimes they are attracted to certain behaviors or personalities. usually after they grow up a little, they figure it out.

2/13/2006 10:25:25 AM

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"not the guys that post threads like this"

THAT ABOUT SUMS UP YOUR ANSWER RIGHT THERE....STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING AND DO SOMETHING YOURSELF FOR A CHANGE.....

IF YOU WANT TO DATE A CUTE GIRL STOP OBSESSING ABOUT IT....
TRY BEING YOURSELF INSTEAD OF TRYING TO IMPRESS PEOPLE AND YOU WILL FIND THAT GIRLS AND FRIENDS WILL COME EASILY BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE AROUND YOU.....

2/13/2006 10:58:59 AM

cause you dont post your pic, that's why.

2/13/2006 11:29:19 AM

^^^ yes, the girl needs to come first. It's a really fine line that guys are expected to walk.

2/13/2006 11:34:33 AM

ive said it before and i'll say it again

you have to find the balance between being an asshole and being polite

you can treat girls like complete shit but as long as youre polite they'll spread their legs and toss their panties at you

2/13/2006 11:44:15 AM

^THANKS DR PHIL

2/13/2006 11:48:51 AM

by questioning you show your naivete.

learn to work with the system instead of against it.

start by watching 'the tao of steve'

2/13/2006 11:51:51 AM

HAY AT LEAST IM NOT A 26 YEAR OLD WITH A BASTARD KID ^^

2/13/2006 12:04:37 PM

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"a guy that cries during movies.... yea that scares me"

fuck that, im man enough to admit my eyes got a little teary watching john q (i didnt cry though, i guess i havent actually cried in years)

2/13/2006 12:29:10 PM

dude, i cried during 21 grams... when my television exploded throwing 3 inch shards of glass into my eyes

2/13/2006 12:31:33 PM

OMG ANOTHER ASSHOLES GET ALL THE WOMEN THREAD
ITS AS OLD AS THIS STYLE OF RESPONSE

2/13/2006 12:32:07 PM

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"In other words, those flowers and opening the door to the car for her, while a "nice" idea, probably aren't the way to go. Stuff like that's reserved for when your old and joking around. "

I disagree. My husband opens my car door probably 85% of the time b/c he realized I liked it except when we're in a rush. I'll open it for him occasionally too, and of course open building doors for both men and women. There's nothing wrong with a little of the good ol' fashioned chivalry, especially if the woman is the one that does something like the majority of the cooking, etc.

As for the jerk vs nice guy thing. I told my husband shortly into our relationship that I liked that he teases me. It makes it more fun, and we laugh. I tend to mess with friends like that, and we all laugh. It's just fun. If you're talking about jerks that are actually condescending/abusive to a girl, I don't see why a girl would go for that - she must be weak or desperate.

2/13/2006 12:39:39 PM

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"husband"

your advice priveleges are revoked.

2/13/2006 12:45:26 PM

2/13/2006 12:48:30 PM

^zomg Nerdchick wins.

btw, the only time it is acceptable for a guy to cry during a movie is when Goose dies in Top Gun.

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 1:06 PM. Reason : Top Gun]

2/13/2006 12:58:33 PM

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"btw, the only time it is acceptable for a guy to cry during a movie is when Goose dies in Top Gunnever."

2/13/2006 1:51:32 PM

this thread rules!

i follow ihatespida's advice, jsut be yourself


i just happen to be an asshole in real ife

2/13/2006 2:13:00 PM

I believe that people date their equals. If you aren't getting any response from "cute chicks" then try aiming lower. If you want to keep the attractiveness you are going to have to balance the equation by sacrificing on the personality or on how much money you spend on them. It’s key to objectively evaluate yourself and then aim appropriately.

"why do all the assholes seem to get the girls?"

Most everyone I know, by this point in their lives, has had some level of meaningful relationships... so there are plenty of good people "getting girls." Again if you’re getting so little acknowledgement from the girls you are interested in that the guys seem like jerks just for having girlfriends, then try aiming lower.

2/13/2006 2:33:29 PM

All girls go through an asshole phase. Some never grow out of it.

Myself, I'm not an asshole, but I've started to realize the wisdom of Dr. Dre: Bitches ain't shit. That's true, generally. I'm not going to mistreat a girl, it's just that I'm cocky and I expect a girl to hold my interest or else the conversation is over in about three minutes. There are girls worth talking to, and sometimes you find them and it's great...but I'm sticking with the wisdom of Dre in most cases.

2/13/2006 3:09:28 PM

You should watch Waiting, this exact question is addressed in the movie

2/13/2006 3:36:40 PM

^GREAT FLICK

2/13/2006 3:38:16 PM

aha

2/13/2006 3:46:27 PM

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"I believe that people date their equals. If you aren't getting any response from "cute chicks" then try aiming lower."

The only problem with this is that you might see a girl you like as your equal, but she sees herself as being a level above you, although everyone tells you they think you and her are on the same level...so you still don't get the girl.

2/13/2006 6:56:40 PM

Guys who are confident and make women feel beautiful get the girls. Since so many of peple here are recommending movies, watch Don Juan DeMarco. Seriously.

And expand your horizons beyond "cute chicks." Look at every woman and decide what specifically about them is beautiful or interesting. That kind of attention is what truly makes a successful ladies' man.

2/13/2006 9:19:25 PM

^ you are pretty much right on.... rate each on individually on more than beauty, assuming your goal is something more meaningful than just a physical attraction

[Edited on February 13, 2006 at 10:00 PM. Reason : ...]

2/13/2006 9:59:54 PM

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"All girls go through an asshole phase. Some never grow out of it. Myself, I'm not an asshole, but I've started to realize the wisdom of Dr. Dre: Bitches ain't shit. That's true, generally. I'm not going to mistreat a girl, it's just that I'm cocky and I expect a girl to hold my interest or else the conversation is over in about three minutes. There are girls worth talking to, and sometimes you find them and it's great...but I'm sticking with the wisdom of Dre in most cases. "

Seriously, do they make a hat size for your head?

2/13/2006 10:13:03 PM

unless you look like freddy krueger, there's gonna be decent-looking girls out there who would date you just because they like the idea of having a boyfriend.

ok, so here's what you do. just go to a party, when you make eye contact with a girl do a little eyebrow raise and be like "what's up?" probably 3 times outta 4 they're just gonna give you this weird look, but i'm sure if you throw enough darts you're bound to hit a target. well as it normally does when alcohol is involved one things leads to another, and when you wake up in her bed the next morning this is where the crucial time begins. if you make a wrong step i imagine things could get awkward fast. so, when you're both awake, give her a little wink and a smile, be like "Wa-ho?"...again, the odds of this little move working are probably about 2 to 1 against, but if it does then you will have had your first "date" and the stage is set for a budding relationship.

i'm not saying this is the best way to get a girl you're gonna be compatible with, but if you just want someone to date you should get at least two chances per week to pull this stunt off.

2/13/2006 10:21:32 PM

ahh yes the most frequently asked question by the stereotypical "nice male"

good luck man...."gentlemen" have been attempting to answer this question since before humans invented language.....back when the dominant male just clubbed the woman over the head and drug her back to his cave and when she woke up she stayed with him....

2/13/2006 11:07:31 PM

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"Seriously, do they make a hat size for your head?"

you'd be suprised


In truth, the aformentioned stance is really only how I act when I'm out at bars or clubs because in a situation like that...I just don't care. My whole attitude changes, though, if I'm not in a meat market bar and I'm in someone's home, at an event, or similar situation.

2/14/2006 9:49:56 AM

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"but i'm sure if you throw enough darts you're bound to hit a target"

AINT THAT THE TRUTH

2/14/2006 10:02:48 AM