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11/27/2005 4:15:30 PM

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wow... just wow...

12/13/2005 11:41:36 AM

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holy shit that is fast. I cant wait for a top gear video review on that thing. has anyone been able to find one yet?

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 1:34 PM. Reason : durr]

12/13/2005 1:34:03 PM

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downloading it now

12/13/2005 2:38:28 PM

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World's Most Expensive (~$1.3 million)

World's Fastest (253 mph)

World's Quickest (0-60 mph in 2.46 sec)

World's Most Powerful (1001 hp)

World's Torquiest (922 lb-ft)




That's quite a record for a single car.

I would say it would take forever for another car to come out which will break all five records, or even three of them.

Even the individual records will take a long time to be broken (by gasoline powered production cars). My estimates:

Price: 10-15 years

Top Speed: 20-30 years

Acceleration: 3-5 years

Power: 5-10 years

Torque: 3-5 years

12/13/2005 2:46:19 PM

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The top gear episode on it was phenomenal.

And they mentioned that each one costs Bugatti something like 5 million pounds, which is like 7.5million bucks.

So they are LOSING THEIR ASSES on these. Great investment for someone.


Also that, full out, it runs through a tank of gas in 12 minutes.

12/13/2005 6:47:05 PM

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7225786117099810059&q=top+gear+bugatti

12/13/2005 7:16:09 PM

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Noen did you see Top Gear on tv on sunday? Or recorded?

12/13/2005 8:58:20 PM

Noen
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nah I downloaded it.

And my.fucking.god


Okay here's another bit of trivia for you.

Put the Veyron and the Mercedes Mclaren SLR side by side.

Let the SLR get to 120mph before the Bugatti even moves.

The Veyron will beat it to 200.



253mph to a dead stop in 10 seconds.

12/14/2005 3:27:34 AM

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noen you broke the law!

PIRATE!

12/14/2005 4:35:27 AM

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Quote :
"Put the Veyron and the Mercedes Mclaren SLR side by side.

Let the SLR get to 120mph before the Bugatti even moves.

The Veyron will beat it to 200."


Screw the SLR.

The Veyron will even do the same to the McLaren F1 (see previous page for my post).

12/14/2005 7:10:13 AM

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i'd rather have the f1 it seems more nimble

12/14/2005 8:27:12 AM

Noen
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^^^show isnt copyrighted or trademarked in the USA, and there is no way to legally obtain it here even if it were.

And the car is fucking beautiful, it makes me want to cry sometimes.

12/14/2005 9:12:12 AM

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please dont ok

12/14/2005 11:04:50 AM

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im going to start selling burnt DVDs of Top Gear, since according to Noen, there is no copyrights or trademark for it in the US

WHO WANTS ONE?? TWO DOLLA PER EPISODE! LAST 4 SEASONS AVAILABLE!

12/16/2005 8:28:30 AM

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^you know there's a big difference between downloading something illegally and distributing pirated property FOR PROFIT.

lol.

12/16/2005 1:29:41 PM

DoubleDown
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no copyright and trademark means i can sell it on the streetcorner!

CASH MONEY!

12/16/2005 2:59:54 PM

Noen
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Well, I'm wrong about the copyright issue. While they do not hold US copyrights on the content, the UK copyrights are valid in the US. Damn treaties.

Good news is though, the BBC (who produces top gear), is a public institution, and is included in the UK's freedom of information act. Which, it appears, in theory, means that their content can be used for non-commercial fair use. So you can't redistribute or sell anything, but you can record, copy and save their content.

But this is all very little informed conjecture

12/16/2005 5:20:00 PM

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In other news, you could also buy a Jet and travel cross country for the same cost

12/16/2005 5:27:07 PM

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I thought it was growing on me, but its just painfully ugly. I saw some pics from last pebble beach where it was parked next to the alfa 8c competizione.... the bugatti is an image-conscious sled, not a sports car. somehow the nth hp thing is getting old now that there's SOO many overpowered cars these days.

12/16/2005 7:25:22 PM

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im waiting on the Stig to take it around the track

12/16/2005 10:05:32 PM

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it's hardly ugly.

And it will most likely be THE best, fastest, most outrageous sports car we see in our lifetimes. Everything in it is so far beyond production capability today, so much faster and more advanced. You have to think, to get the numbers they are getting, they are losing their ass on every car. Other than possibly Ford, there isn't another manufacturer out there that can absorb this kind of loss just to prove they can make the best.

There is a HUGE difference between all these retarded aftermarket cars making 1000+ hp, and a PRODUCTION, warranteed vehicle doing it. A HUGE difference.

And the car isn't beautiful, but I think it's definitely pretty well designed, especially for what it's able to do.

12/18/2005 3:04:13 AM

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they're losing what ? 4 million per car?


"This is the best car ever made and probably that ever will be made"
~jeremy clarkson

12/19/2005 11:51:05 AM

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yep

12/19/2005 12:42:01 PM

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clarkson seemed to have a hard time describing it since he loved it so much

but i bet a 1000 hp car is kind of hard to describe, anyway

12/19/2005 10:12:03 PM

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Quote :
"The Dubai Motorshow as from december the 12th till the 16th. And some of the brands can be very satisfied...

Pagani sold one of their Zonda's and BMW sold all the cars they had on the stand in Dubai (incl. a Mini). Lamborghini sold a Murciélago Roadster, a Gallardo Spyder and a Gallardo Coupé.

But perhaps most satisfied was Bugatti. They managed to sell 6 (!) Veyrons. Also a very happy man is without a doubt the boss of Coach West. They sell limo's and armoured cars. The brand got around 50 new jobs.

The total worth of all sales is around 23.000.000 euro / 27.305.600 USD / 15.617.000 Pounds"


12/22/2005 8:25:37 PM

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$30,000

[cost of sound system in the Veyron]

12/28/2005 2:04:11 PM

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Are those speakers made from gold or does that factor in design costs for a custor speaker system?

12/28/2005 2:55:13 PM

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No, not design costs, just what the system costs them to make [or purchase if from a third party retailer].

Read it in either C&D or MT last night. No details given, so I don't know what's do special about it.

12/28/2005 2:58:56 PM

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the column controlls cost 4k pounds

12/28/2005 3:10:05 PM

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Bugatti next plans to make a hyper-sedan with the same engine, but rated at more reasonable levels, such as 950 hp, and will also sell for more reasonable dollars, such as 900K. This sedan will make the Maybach and the Phantom look like BMW 5 series cars, just as the Veyron makes the McLaren/Enzo/Carerra/Murcielago look like Toyota Celicas. Since all the development costs are preety much taken care of, they hope to make a profit on this on, or at least break even. It will be all the rage with rappers and software moguls.

Some more stats:

Estimates by C&D:

Zero to 60 mph: 2.9 sec (already tested at 2.46 in Europe)
Zero to 100 mph: 6.0 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 11.0 sec
Zero to 200 mph: 22.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 10.8 sec @ 140 mph

10 Fastest Production Cars Ever

Model Year Vehicle Top Speed
(mph) Source
2005 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 253 Car and Driver
2005 Koenigsegg CCR 241 independent observer
1998 McLaren F1 240 independent observer
2003 Saleen S7 223 at 6500-rpm redline
2004 Ferrari Enzo 220 Auto Motor und Sport
1993 Jaguar XJ220 212 independent observer
1992 Bugatti EB110 GT 212 Autocar
2002 Pagani Zonda S 208 Sport Auto
2004 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 207 Auto Motor und Sport
2004 Porsche Carrera GT 207 Auto Motor und Sport

1/2/2006 8:19:00 AM

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Is that the turbo s7?

i don't think it was out in 03 if not.... watch out that fugger is gonna be faaaaaaast.
750 hp & weighs way way way less then the veyron + the car actually handles as well as it accelerates.

1/2/2006 9:46:44 AM

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no that's not the turbo.

i know, the turbo S7 can do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, and probably can reach 240 mph.

1/2/2006 9:00:34 PM

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How can they have acceleration numbers for a car not in existance yet?

1/3/2006 6:14:59 PM

DoubleDown
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simpsons did it

1/3/2006 7:39:10 PM

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not in existence?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-Saleen-S7-Twin-Turbo-750hp-0-60-under-3-seconds_W0QQitemZ4600967068QQcategoryZ6472QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


so i imagined that one i guess

1/3/2006 8:30:51 PM

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^^^

dude the Saleen S7 TT has been out for a year. If there is any currently that can beat the Veyron in acceleration, this is it. (and maybe also the Koenigsegg CCR)

think about it, 2950 lbs and 750 hp and 700 lb-ft.

it has a significantly better weight to power ratio than the Veyron.

company estimates are 0-60 in 2.8 and 0-100 in 6 seconds. 1/4 mile in 10.6 seconds.

i want some mag to get a hold of it and test it to find out its full potential.

1/4/2006 5:39:53 PM

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i havent seen any track times, thats all that really matters

1/4/2006 5:58:22 PM

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I'm talking about the Bugatti sedan you fucks!

1/4/2006 6:46:17 PM

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the old s7 pwned enzo's at the track i'm sure the turbo one will do the same

1/4/2006 7:12:10 PM

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^^ no you fuck! those numbers are for the veyron... sorry not clear from my post!

^ yeah the NA S7 equalled the Enzo and the F1 in every respect. The TT is a beast.

NA S7: 0-60 in 3.3
TT S7: 0-60 in 2.8

imagine the proportional improvement in other performance measures!

1/4/2006 7:15:41 PM

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i think its basically the same car everywhere else with a lil more brakes and some money spent to offset the weight of the turbos. i just think it will walk a enzo down a straight now probably the same handleing characteristics.

1/4/2006 7:19:22 PM

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I'm glad i have the TWW experts to tell me which supercar is better!

1/4/2006 7:38:06 PM

sumfoo1
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not an expert just a fan

1/4/2006 7:47:37 PM

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1/5/2006 1:15:19 PM

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bttt

4/27/2006 9:18:39 AM

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Quote :
"And it will most likely be THE best, fastest, most outrageous sports car we see in our lifetimes."


I don't see where you can even begin to make this comment. It's just stupid to think about. What is your justification to think nothing in the next 40-60 years can top this?

4/27/2006 10:57:00 AM

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So what do you actually do with that car when you buy it......I mean you cant actually drive it

4/27/2006 11:34:48 AM

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My first car ever will be a Bugatti!!!

‘Baby Bugatti’ to cost just five figures?

Quote :
"Considering the Bugatti Veyron costs seven figures — around $1.3 million in the United States — most folks have suspected the much-rumored ‘Baby Bugatti’ would probably cost between $100,000 and $200,000. However, AutoBild magazine is reporting that Volkswagen has much different plans for its second supercar brand. The new Bugatti will cost just 50,000 euros and have a four-cylinder turbo engine putting out between 280 and 320 horsepower. Most importantly, it will weigh just 2,444 pounds. That means it will spring to 62 mph in somewhere between four and five seconds. It will also have a top speed of 188 mph, according to the report. Clearly, the roadster will target the Porsche Boxster/Cayman and BMW Z4M. But with substantially less weight than those vehicles, it would be much quicker. The car is said to have development numbers BG913 (coupe) and BG914 (roadster). Between 5,000 and 6,000 units are to be made each year, with an introduction toward the end of the decade. Since the 2010 model year is a long ways off, we’d take these artist renderings with a grain of salt. "








4/27/2006 6:56:33 PM

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ohhh i'd fuck the shit outta that


wait why would bugatti wanna compete with the boxster?

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 8:33 PM. Reason : huh]

4/27/2006 8:32:29 PM

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