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" I love it when shitA PLAN starts to come(s) together..."

[Edited on January 10, 2013 at 7:37 PM. Reason : Page 192 for the A-Team]

1/10/2013 7:37:19 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us40JgpcvMs&feature=youtu.be


para at 25 yrds

1/10/2013 9:02:56 PM

stubborn targets! haha

1/10/2013 9:10:17 PM

HAHA> targets that reset themselves!

1/10/2013 9:19:05 PM

Yep :-) funny thing is I know 9mm and .45 have the same muzzle energy but .45 knocks the around enough to reset them, and 9mm just blows apart and doesn't even nock them down sometimes.

1/10/2013 9:27:34 PM

was that at the range down in goldsboro?

[Edited on January 10, 2013 at 9:44 PM. Reason : yep, pretty sure it is]

1/10/2013 9:38:14 PM

Yea member down there

1/10/2013 9:56:24 PM

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"think it was the right choice? "

Nice! Love the 226 Navy. Would love to have either the Navy or the Tac Ops

Rainier had (10) sets of Mega MATENs in stock, sold out in 2 minutes @ $650+, ridiculous. Been trying to get this gun made for a year now

1/10/2013 11:03:40 PM

^^my uncle is a member. i go with him sometimes when i'm down there.

1/10/2013 11:16:22 PM

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"Compared to the other two? Good choice no matter what."

Naw they were just in the shot because I was the cameraman at the pistol orgy that was happening on my dinner table. It was all about the 226 MK25...you may recall I recently posted in the used gun thread that I was trying to decide between the navy sig or a long-barrel ruger .44

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"You shop at Phydeaux?"

After googling to figure out what the hell you were talking about I realized that my "backdrop" was just some bag that I can only assume is tied to my gf

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"AWESOME CHOICE! I love it paerabol Got my twin spam cans for the mosin today... Should get the Keltec S2k in this saturday. I love it when shit starts to come together..."

hell yeah dude that is cause to party. Probably going to the range tomorrow, care to join? that goes for anyone else also...will bring at least the sig but probably also the SA 1911, fuggit maybe the g32 too.

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"Nice! Love the 226 Navy. Would love to have either the Navy or the Tac Ops"

yeah I had a hard-on for both the navy and the elite, but given that I already have a 1911 queen I figured I'd go for something more utilitarian. My only dilemma is that I really want the SRT trigger, but that kinda defeats the purpose of the coated internals...probably will hook it up anyway, doubt I'll be doing any midnight beach landings any time soon

1/11/2013 12:33:36 AM

Dammmnn. I can't. I get off work here in about 4 hours. I gotta get as much sleep as I can and find time to do homework before I return back here for work.

1/11/2013 12:53:38 AM

that sounds like the worst kind of suck

1/11/2013 1:09:17 AM

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"yeah I had a hard-on for both the navy and the elite, but given that I already have a 1911 queen I figured I'd go for something more utilitarian. My only dilemma is that I really want the SRT trigger, but that kinda defeats the purpose of the coated internals...probably will hook it up anyway, doubt I'll be doing any midnight beach landings any time soon"

caught up between the tacops and the elite dark

1/11/2013 1:21:12 AM

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"funny thing is I know 9mm and .45 have the same muzzle energy but .45 knocks the around enough to reset them, and 9mm just blows apart and doesn't even nock them down sometimes."

That's called momentum. Velocity weighs heavily in the calculation of energy.

1/11/2013 2:12:43 AM

well technically muzzle energy is the momentum.

I'm aware if this... it's just funny how much more efficiently a 900ft/sec 220g bullet transfers energy to steel vs a 1400 ft/sec 115 grain bullet

1/11/2013 9:28:44 AM

my .45 plinking handloads are 230 gr plated bullets only doing about 600 fps (through my chrono). they don't hit those plates hard enough to reset them.

1/11/2013 9:40:52 AM

i typically shoot remington UMC not gonna lie though i think that was winchester something...

gonna order a reloading setup soon...

1/11/2013 9:46:17 AM

^^^ No. Kinetic energy is 0.5 x mass x velocity^2. Momentum is mass x velocity

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 11:28 AM. Reason : forgot the half]

1/11/2013 11:27:58 AM

^ truth... brain farted.

1/11/2013 11:29:03 AM

Momentum vs kinetic energy is neat to play around with. 405gr wide nose lead bullets coming out of my 480 at a slow 800 fps can really smash some stuff but it's unimpressive when you hit a soft target.

1/11/2013 3:23:30 PM

for shame, sumfoo1. for. shame.

1/11/2013 7:19:14 PM

Argue against the 10-round mag restriction.

I like guns and have no qualms with hi-capacity mags, but there is no valid argument FOR them (imo) other than a SHTF situation (rising against the govt and whatnot).

Points about "oh a trained person can load multiple mags just as fast as a high-cap mag" is BS. Add the stress levels in a real situation and it's complete BS.

Imagine giving a soldier a bunch of 10-rd mags and sending him into battle (let's say weight is no issue), HA. He NEEDS the high cap mags to do his job: kill people with the least interruptions possible/chance of being compromised. Or go the other way. If the soldier could have a magic normal-sized magazine that holds 200 rounds, you bet your ass he'd take it.

All I see is "look they're not bad because blah blah blah." How about some reasons why they're good?

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 7:21 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2013 7:20:43 PM

There's a thread in the Soap box already dedicated to Gun Control. Lets not clutter another thread concerning this, please.

Thank you.

1/11/2013 7:30:26 PM

took the mk25 and 1911 to the range today.

the 226 is a dream. Generally that Springfield spoils me for anything else so I usually shoot it last during any given session but after putting a couple boxes through the Sig I traded off mag for mag with the 1911 and it still felt smooth, precise and solid as a rock. Switching from the cheap(ish) Speer Lawman FMJ I bought at PDHSC to some Hornady HAP Steel Match I brought with me tightened up my groups significantly but I'm still not yet taking advantage of P226 accuracy. Then again, still relatively inexperienced with 9mm.

My groups with the 1911 and my G32 are consistently centered but for some reason I'm pulling low and left with the Sig. I think my trigger control is fine, I might just need to get used to the different grip. Anyone ever notice anything like this when shooting a P226 for the first time?



[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM. Reason : still considering the SRT kit for the sig]

1/11/2013 8:03:35 PM

What do you guys say as far as prices for defense handguns go, are they inflated right now along with all the other AR and SKS stuff or are pistols/shotguns somewhat reasonable still? I finally convinced the wife of the need to know how to shoot and defend herself. She understands she should learn for occassions when Im on business trips or working late. Doesnt have to enjoy it but just know it. Will most likely visit the Concord show tomorrow just to let her get a feel for type/size/cal she's comfortable witb but been out of the buying game for a while now. Though i have no issue with it a shotgun is out for now, too intimidating for her plus the recoil would knock her tiny ass over.

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 8:27 PM. Reason : .]

1/11/2013 8:19:11 PM

Used markets is hit or miss. Some things are average priced, a few items have shown up lately that are really good buys. But then I see some crazy shit, like a Gen III Glock 22 with some extra mags and ammo going for $1200. Really? $1200? That's about $300 over RETAIL.

1/11/2013 8:24:22 PM

Haven't noticed any significant inflation in handgun prices except on a few models that come stock with "hi-cap" magazines (think full-frame double-stack 9mm models and the like), and even that is inconsistent and easy to avoid


hell, while I'm on about it, PDHSC has the exact sig I just bought listed for $879/906 cash/card. That's pretty damn good, in any social environment.

[Edited on January 11, 2013 at 8:29 PM. Reason : asdf]

1/11/2013 8:27:08 PM

I went and bought some 9mm range ammo at a small local gun shop and was surprised all the .22LR ammo was out

.223/5.56 I can understand, but the .22LR? sounds like a prepper craze

1/11/2013 9:02:50 PM

yeah.

22LR is out as well.

gunrunners had NO 9mm handguns in stock. worker there said 9's are flying off shelf because of cheap ammo prices and everyone wants a gun now.

1/11/2013 10:19:51 PM

Glad I got my 5k CCI for $300 when I did...

1/11/2013 10:51:26 PM

the only 9mm gunrunners had yesterday was that hornady HAP steel match

and midwayusa is almost virtually out of 9mm with "no backorder"

this shit is bananas

oh and FYI, north raleigh guns got audited on top of being slammed with business so if you need anything of them I'd call ahead

[Edited on January 12, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Reason : asdf]

1/11/2013 11:59:26 PM

I'm confused how places like that are still being slammed with business when their shelves are all empty and nothing left to sell

1/12/2013 12:16:30 AM

just because they run out of ARs doesn't mean their shelves are empty

1/12/2013 12:52:56 AM

When I was there last week, they were out of all magazine fed rifles of any kind

1/12/2013 1:25:54 AM

That's what I was getting at...any firearm restriction threat will result in increased sales in every platform. 9mm luger isn't scarce because everyone bought up the rifles

[Edited on January 12, 2013 at 1:35 AM. Reason : more handguns and hunting rifles to go around, still lots of money to be made]

1/12/2013 1:34:13 AM

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"and FYI, north raleigh guns got audited"

hmm maybe they shouldn't have told me to break federal law...

jk these two incidents have nothing to do with each other

[Edited on January 12, 2013 at 2:28 PM. Reason : paerabol where did you get the MK25? how much?]

1/12/2013 2:28:07 PM

Got the Samson Evo 15" rail and I must say I am very impressed. Like it a whole lot better than my Troy.

1/12/2013 4:20:09 PM

i wonder when BCGs will start showing up again

1/12/2013 4:32:21 PM

BCM is selling out in 2 minutes and it is restricting people to one per person.

1/12/2013 4:55:41 PM

yeah, i know

i'm still waiting on a lot of parts, but the only things i don't at least have ordered are BCG and gas tube. i've also gotta send my barrel and FSB to a gunsmith to get them drilled and pinned, so i can definitely wait.

[Edited on January 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM. Reason : no backorders, just long processing times due to hysteria]

1/12/2013 5:18:54 PM

I sent you a gas tube link a few days ago.

I have everything for my precision build ordered except for the muzzle device. I want to get another BCG and charging handle to complete it but for now I will just use the ones from my other build.

1/12/2013 5:27:53 PM

Well goddamn Keltec. They replaced everything again! This time, they even replaced the safety mechanism and went over the faded serial with the engraver again, giving it a solid clean look. I "tested" the sub2k with some .40S&W dummy rounds I made and they work flawlessly! The Red Lion Precision front sight was installed and as far as I can tell, they sighted it in for me. Everything is so smoooth. I'm very, very pleased this time. I can't wait to take it to the range and see what it does on paper.

HOT DAMN.

1/12/2013 7:17:58 PM

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"Got the Samson Evo 15" rail and I must say I am very impressed."

What size barrel are you putting this on? Pics?


I'm strongly considering putting either the Samson Evo 15" or the Rainier Evo 15" (made by Samson) on a build that I am currently working on, with a 16" barrel.

1/12/2013 9:32:21 PM

I have the Rainier version, going to use it with the Rainier 18" Ultramatch barrel. Still waiting on my upper receiver to make it but when it comes in ill put it together and snap some pics.

1/12/2013 10:20:30 PM

Anyone know of anyplace with a ruger or browning .22lr pistol in stock?

Checking Davidson's online it appears the warehouse is empty.

Would prefer to pay 2012 or 2011 prices...

Need something cheaper to put holes in paper.

1/12/2013 11:14:33 PM

there are a few for sale on CSC

[Edited on January 12, 2013 at 11:15 PM. Reason : rugers]

1/12/2013 11:15:39 PM

I'm in Dundee Michigan @ cabellas looking around they made me want to get a single action .22lr revolver

1/13/2013 6:53:58 AM

jtw: I paid $950 out-the-door for the NIB mk25 and a box of ammo on a FFL transfer from someone on CSC that had ordered it but couldn't keep it

If you bring cash, PDHSC had a new one listed for $879 (or a little over $900 if you pay with plastic), plus tax and whatnot, when I hit the range on Friday. That's the best price I've seen yet on one, online included, but that isn't to say they can't be had new for cheaper

1/13/2013 11:48:48 AM

when you guys sell a gun to someone how do you know they aren't crazy

1/13/2013 3:46:56 PM

http://www.themakogroup.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EARM30+W&CartID=1

In case you want some 30 rd mags

1/13/2013 6:07:27 PM