because data != to texts, dur

and because they can. it sucks.

2/28/2010 10:57:25 AM

They are both just digital bits.

I know they aren't equal, the SMS service rides on top of the call setup channels.

But on my end, if I don't have a text plan I should be able to send out a message and it will be received on the other end and that persons carrier will have to handle how they get it. If they have a "data" plan, they get it that way, if not, they get it via the SMS channel with all the associated costs for that plan.

2/28/2010 11:33:17 AM

if only.

they might receive it..but they or you will be charged a per text cost to do it

i mean, technically everything is just bits now..

i'm sure eventually we'll just pay for unlimited internet and all use a service like google voice to handle everything we want to do..bbbbut not yet

2/28/2010 11:42:29 AM

yeah, just get a google voice account and send texts through it. Problem solved

2/28/2010 11:44:32 AM

Quote :

" yeah, just get a google voice account and send texts through it. Problem solved "

Yup, that is what I'm planning to do provided I can get an invite.


At the moment, I'm trying to figure out if this bing cashback deal at wirefly is still active

http://www.wirefly.com/learn/company_news/wirefly-bing-cashback-sale/

I have a live account, I search bing, and I see no cashback symbols.

NEON, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?

2/28/2010 11:58:22 AM

I CAN SEND YOU AN INVITE SON

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM. Reason : i've only got one invite left though but lemme know your email if you want it]

2/28/2010 12:07:48 PM

Im still researching all this stuff. I was kinda digging google voice for free incoming and outgoing but I'd lose the caller ID capability, which is more or less huge I suppose. Unless there is a workaround for this that I haven't found yet.

2/28/2010 12:13:29 PM

you mean for incoming? bc i'm pretty certain i still see the # of who is actually calling when they call my google voice # and it forwards to my cell

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 12:16 PM. Reason : but i'm on at&t, no idea if there's a difference]

2/28/2010 12:15:56 PM

It passes caller ID on incoming calls. Not sure if there's a way to get free incoming as it just displays the person's number on the bill. I've managed to get free outgoing by adding the google number it dials when I tell it to dial using google voice to my friends and family. The number it uses isn't your google voice number so if you just add your gv number to your account you won't get free outgoing. Suppose you could just add your google voice number to your friends and family, set your phone to send the voicemail to your gv number and let all calls go to voicemail and then just call them back. Then you'd technically have unlimited.

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM. Reason : ]

2/28/2010 12:18:49 PM

My research is still a work in progress

If I can see who is calling, fantastic. What if I call outbound, I guess they'll see my google voice number? Or will they see my cell number? Because people are in the habit of returning calls to the call ID.

2/28/2010 12:19:28 PM

yeah, it'll be your google voice number that shows up on their caller id.

2/28/2010 12:21:25 PM

agreed. is g.v. not letting you port numbers to them yet? for some reason i thought they had added that already

2/28/2010 12:23:55 PM

Quote :

"I've managed to get free outgoing by adding the google number it dials when I tell it to dial using google voice to my friends and family. The number it uses isn't your google voice number so if you just add your gv number to your account you won't get free outgoing."

I have no idea what you just said

Quote :

"Not sure if there's a way to get free incoming as it just displays the person's number on the bill."

From what I'm reading, you can program it to pipe through your GV number, but then every number calling you is that number, so you lose the call ID, which was my original problem.



[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 12:36 PM. Reason : .]

2/28/2010 12:31:20 PM

lol. When you dial a number through the google voice app, it doesn't dial your google voice number. It uses another number, so if you have your google voice number in your friends and family, you're not going to get free outgoing.

2/28/2010 12:40:48 PM

See, you're still blowing my mind.

When I dial a number through the GV app

it uses another number?!

Que?

2/28/2010 12:51:58 PM

yes. my GV number prefix is 919-341 and the number it dials when I use the google voice app prefix is 919-429, then it forward through to the number I'm calling with the 341 number as the caller id.

[Edited on February 28, 2010 at 12:58 PM. Reason : ]

2/28/2010 12:58:29 PM

i have 3 invites left to GV if anyone wants, shoot a PM

2/28/2010 1:08:30 PM

my touch pro was faulty so verizon replaced it with a droid eris. i like the droid eris 10x better...
a couple of questions:

what's the best must-have apps? I downloaded advanced task killer and love it so far...kills apps from running in the background and draining the battery.

also..noticed it only has flash lite, which doesn't work on many sites that have flash video.. is there a way around that or do i have to wait until flash 10.1 is available?

2/28/2010 7:43:30 PM

other than the weird form factor, what do you guys think about the backflip? i need a new phone and don't wanna get locked down to something non-android for 2 years.

3/2/2010 12:26:13 AM

Well this should be interesting:

http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/02/apple-goes-after-htc-in-lawsuit-over-20-iphone-patents/

But seriously, this whole patent business is getting out of hand with technology companies.

3/2/2010 10:20:07 AM

lol its why im going into IP law

i just help money find its way into different pockets every 2 years

3/2/2010 7:20:16 PM

^^reading the complaint it looks like apple is just being a bitch and is worried they're going to lose out by HTC and the Android phones becoming more and more prominent in the smartphone world, and they've patented some incredibly stupid things (limited the power to the processor to save battery? my fucking laptop does that too, apple gonna sue HP for it?)

3/2/2010 8:10:41 PM

ok, so i'm having issues with gchat between my phone and computer. with most folks, when they message me on gchat and i start chatting with them on the computer, the phone only vibrates for the first message and then after i start replying on the computer, it just alerts me on the computer with the sound and the flashing firefox tab or whatever. with my fiance only, the phone vibrates for every message she sends. it has only done this when talking to her. it's annoying as hell.

any ideas?

[Edited on March 2, 2010 at 8:49 PM. Reason : i have a droid if that matters]

3/2/2010 8:48:48 PM

Quote :

"with my fiance only"

stop talking to your fiance! problem solved

3/3/2010 1:06:17 AM

lol

Quote :

"AT&T ditches Google Search for Yahoo on the Motorola Backflip Posted on Wednesday, Mar 3, 2010 by Jared DiPane When you think of Android, you think Google -- powered by Google, Google Search Bar, Google Apps, Google Sync, etc. But we also all know how AT&T likes to have exclusives, and, shall we say, "tweak" its devices. And they're at it again with the Motorola Backflip, which has given Yahoo search default function of this device. The search bar, home page and more are Yahoo instead of Google. AT&T firmly believes Yahoo is the best search engine for this device (or at least Yahoo shelled out enough jing to get on board), and users don't have the option to switch to the Google powered one instead. If users wish to access Google search, they will have to do so through the browser."

3/3/2010 10:57:24 AM

^that's absurd

yo tyndal, any ideas on my question^^^?

3/3/2010 10:59:47 AM

AT&T never disappoints... lol.

3/3/2010 10:59:50 AM

yeah, AT&T and Apple are getting a little ridiculous.

NRR- I know people in the mePhone thread were talking about how it would stop sending messages to whichever one you're not replying from. So if she replies from her computer, she still continues getting messages on her phone and it works on both if you im someone else?

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 11:06 AM. Reason : ]

3/3/2010 11:05:46 AM

no. when i message other people, it stops sending the messages to whichever i'm not replying from after i start replying. when she messages me, it keeps giving the alerts on both of my devices. she does not have this problem when messaging me.

3/3/2010 11:13:11 AM

anyone have any google voice invites left?

3/3/2010 11:38:36 AM

i got 1

3/3/2010 11:47:30 AM

ive got 2

3/3/2010 11:58:53 AM

i've got 3

3/3/2010 1:02:22 PM

since noone answered earlier...

my touch pro was faulty so verizon replaced it with a droid eris. i like the droid eris 10x better...
a couple of questions:

what's the best must-have apps? I downloaded advanced task killer and love it so far...kills apps from running in the background and draining the battery.

also..noticed it only has flash lite, which doesn't work on many sites that have flash video.. is there a way around that or do i have to wait until flash 10.1 is available?

3/3/2010 3:40:15 PM

failboard free
sportstap widget
astro
accuweather.com widget

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 3:57 PM. Reason : just wait for 10.1]

3/3/2010 3:57:05 PM

Getting my Droid today!

Here's my initial list of "to" install:

FlyScreen or SlideScreen
Google Sky Map
Google Goggles
Google Shopper
Google Translate
Meebo
Seesmic or twidroid
TripIt
WordPress
UrbanSpoon
DoodleDroid
Beautiful Widgets
PDANet (tethering)
TasKiller
PicSay
Flixster
Snaptic Compass
Snaptic 3banana Notes
Snaptic AK Notepad
StudyDroid
Battery Widget
Camera ZOOM FX or FxCamera
PhotoBurst or Continuous Shoot
Opera Mini
Nesoid Lite
Doom
Quake 3
Pandora
Shazam
JuiceDefender
WeFi (wifi finder)
GDocs
Whitepages Caller ID
Where's My Droid
Mobile Defense
Aldiko (ebook reader)
Photoshop.com
WeatherBug or WeatherChannel
LED Flashlight
SMS Popup
Remote RDP
Speedtest.net
NPR
BeerCloud
Locale
TuneWiki
Gmote
k9mail
ShopSavvy
Fusion Voicemail Plus (Visual VM)
Wapedia
iheartradio

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2010 4:22:29 PM

where can i get doom?

3/3/2010 4:42:24 PM

My current apps are:

Astro File Manager- file browser
Barcode Scanner
BatteryLife- Gives estimate of how long battery will last under different usage
BatteryTime Lite- battery widget that displays battery life percentage and battery temp
Beautiful Widgets (paid)- SenseUI-esque clock/weather widget
Documents to Go (paid)- allows editing of excel, word, ppt, and pdf
Mini Info- widget that displays battery life, app memory, and memory card space left
Google Goggles- google search images
Phone Tools- send SMS and view pics on phone connected over wifi
drocap2 - screen capture program (root required)
facebook
fml widget
google sky map
handscent sms- alternative messaging app
iheartradio
LEDs Hack- turn off the lights on those damn touch sensitive buttons in the dock
Meebo IM
Missed Call
SportsTap- nice sports widget to track scores and alert throught a game
Nesdoid Lite
No Signal Alert
DMUpdater- program to root, flash recovery and install custom rom
Quick Profile- blackberry-esque sound profile manager
SetCPU- root required, allows overclocking
SNesoid Lite
Speedtest
Terminal Emulator
Texts From Last Night Widget
Touchdown For Exchange (paid)- must have app for seemless exchange sync
WaveSecure (paid)- security app that allows remote tracking, wipe, and can trigger and annoying as hell alarm.
Weatherbug
Wireless Tether- root and custom kernel required

3/3/2010 4:57:40 PM

i just downloaded google sky and shazam..

holy crap... i never knew the phone was capable of such! shazam is just plain creepy how it can listen to a song and identify it

3/3/2010 5:05:33 PM

http://code.google.com/p/doom-for-android/

3/3/2010 5:16:36 PM

Oops:

http://www.neowin.net/news/nexus-one-has-a-major-multitouch-problem

3/3/2010 5:30:56 PM

^^^^what ROM are you using?

new every two = $100 for 2 droids with the BOGO deal going on right now, w00t!

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 7:18 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2010 7:16:54 PM

Bugless Beast 0.7.6. Haven't gotten motivated to upgrade to the 1.x release.

3/3/2010 7:44:30 PM

(Minus included shit)

Amazon
Astrid
Barcode Scanner
Better Cut
Facebook
Glared Icons
Gmote
Google Goggles
Google Sky
Key Ring
Last.fm
Meebo IM
Movies
Nesoid
News and Weather (the 2.1 default package)
Pandora
Picsay Pro
Quake 2
Streamfurious
Taskpanel
Voice
Wallpaper Set and Save

3/4/2010 8:46:44 AM

2.1 on the Droid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbPgVcBv3u4

Leaked 2.1 with updated SenseUI for the Eris
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641588

3/4/2010 8:50:51 AM

Just downloaded phonemypc. Nifty app for only 9.99. You can control your view and control your computer directly or just use your phone as a wireless keyboard/mouse.

http://softwareforme.com/?page_id=11


[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM. Reason : ]

3/4/2010 9:39:11 AM

Yeah I'm waiting for the 2.1 official release. I just don't want to deal with rooting at the moment.

3/4/2010 9:42:09 AM

Me either and they need to hurry the fuck up and release it.

3/4/2010 11:52:37 AM

will 2.1 be a required update? will the phone run better with it, or worse?

3/4/2010 4:47:15 PM

It's supposed to be quite a bit faster and multitouch will be a big plus.

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 5:09 PM. Reason : *]

3/4/2010 5:09:31 PM